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Pope denouncing IVF treatment

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  • #52
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Sure wasn't the last pope as bad really, I think it's inherent in the name "pope" to be honest. They just spout.
    Maybe I'm showing my age, but I think JP was a little quieter on making big declarations about evil this and that, but maybe I'm wrong.

    I think the reason why Ratzy appears so bad is because a lot of us grew up with JP and as Irish society diverged from Catholic doctrine, people recognised that JP was behind the times, but then he was old and doddery. It was no more shocking than your grandad talking about how gays were evil - as shure it's grand, he's old and set in his ways.

    When JP left then, I think a lot of people expected a slightly more progressive pope for a more progressive time, but instead they appointed someone arguably more conservative than before, driving the wedge between the Irish and Catholicism even further.

    It also doesn't help that Ratzy looks evil. At least JP had the smiling old man thing going on. Ratzy looks like a school headmaster from a Roald Dahl book.


  • #53
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    seamus wrote: »
    JP ....

    It also doesn't help that Ratzy looks evil. At least JP had the smiling old man thing going on. Ratzy looks like a school headmaster from a Roald Dahl book.

    One thing I find interesting about the two is everyone seems fine using the last popes honorific name, but everyone calls Benny Ratzy instead. Even someone like yourself or myself who doesn't have any inherent respect for either!


  • #54
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    That's because Wojtyła is way harder to remember than RatMan.


  • #55
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Stark wrote: »
    That's because Wojtyła is way harder to remember than RatMan.
    I'm sticking to Papa Ratzi.


  • #56
    tfitzgerald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    Sometimes the church can make it very hard to be a catholic and with statements like this I have to say they are their own worst enemy


  • #57
    oldrnwisr
    Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭oldrnwisr


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    One thing I find interesting about the two is everyone seems fine using the last popes honorific name, but everyone calls Benny Ratzy instead. Even someone like yourself or myself who doesn't have any inherent respect for either!

    Well, I think as Stark has commented, it's just that Karol Wojtyla is just too hard to shorten. However, I suggest that given the obvious resemblance between Ratzi and Darth Sidious

    pope-benedict.jpg

    we could refer to PJP2 as Darth Plagueis instead.


  • #58
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    tfitzgerald wrote: »
    they are their own worst enemy
    Saves effort on our part -- suits me!


  • #59
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    robindch wrote: »
    Saves effort on our part -- suits me!

    No no no... It's our job to twist the knife that they stabbed themselves with.

    I think.


  • #60
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    seamus wrote: »
    Maybe I'm showing my age, but I think JP was a little quieter on making big declarations about evil this and that, but maybe I'm wrong.

    I think the reason why Ratzy appears so bad is because a lot of us grew up with JP and as Irish society diverged from Catholic doctrine, people recognised that JP was behind the times, but then he was old and doddery. It was no more shocking than your grandad talking about how gays were evil - as shure it's grand, he's old and set in his ways.

    When JP left then, I think a lot of people expected a slightly more progressive pope for a more progressive time, but instead they appointed someone arguably more conservative than before, driving the wedge between the Irish and Catholicism even further.

    It also doesn't help that Ratzy looks evil. At least JP had the smiling old man thing going on. Ratzy looks like a school headmaster from a Roald Dahl book.

    but I think JP was a little quieter on making big declarations about evil this and that, but maybe I'm wrong.

    No you're are correct - but remember that old and doddery man was presiding over the requests for information on Child Abuse in this country and basically told the Irish to go and F**k off.

    Ratz from the flatz looks very eveil though


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