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    #32
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,278 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    so if I am getting a Luas ONLY taxsaver yearly card soon, and this is in the form of a leap card, and I load credit onto it, is it clever enough to know not to take credit away when travelling on Luas and only charge it when getting a bus?
    Yes.

    There had been an issue with Irish Rail annual tickets and e-purse functionality, but I'm not aware of any with Luas.

    Feel free to come back to us with any observations.


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    #33
    kryptonmight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭kryptonmight


    Tried my ticket on the bus yesterday and it seemed to work fine.

    Regarding multi operator annual tickets, will existing tickets be re-issued as leap cards at some point? My annual ticket just started this month.


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    #34
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,557 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Unless you specifically request it, you will keep your ticket until it needs to be renewed in January 2015.


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    #35
    kryptonmight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭kryptonmight


    I got a job offer last week and assuming there are no hiccups, I will most likely be leaving my current workplace who I have an annual taxsaver ticket through. I won't need the taxsaver ticket anymore as the new job is close to where I am living.

    Can I just give the card and ID back to my current employer without having to pay the remaining price of the ticket? As it stands I asked them to deduct the payment over 12 months and the ticket has only been valid since the start of January this year so I have only had payment deducted from one wage packet so far.


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    #36
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,557 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    kryptonmight wrote: »
    I got a job offer last week and assuming there are no hiccups, I will most likely be leaving my current workplace who I have an annual taxsaver ticket through. I won't need the taxsaver ticket anymore as the new job is close to where I am living.

    Can I just give the card and ID back to my current employer without having to pay the remaining price of the ticket? As it stands I asked them to deduct the payment over 12 months and the ticket has only been valid since the start of January this year so I have only had payment deducted from one wage packet so far.

    You should return the ticket to your current employer and then they can get a refund of the unused portion.


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    #37
    Davexirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Davexirl


    Is the 'Annual Short Hop Commuter Rail, DART & Dublin Bus' ticket a Leap Card with a digital photo on it?


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    #38
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,557 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Since February 1st such tickets are now issued on a LEAP card, yes.


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    #39
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    kryptonmight wrote: »
    I got a job offer last week and assuming there are no hiccups, I will most likely be leaving my current workplace who I have an annual taxsaver ticket through. I won't need the taxsaver ticket anymore as the new job is close to where I am living.

    Can I just give the card and ID back to my current employer without having to pay the remaining price of the ticket? As it stands I asked them to deduct the payment over 12 months and the ticket has only been valid since the start of January this year so I have only had payment deducted from one wage packet so far.

    Strictly speaking, this is a private matter between you and your employer, your contract should outline what happens here ( but I bet it doesn't)

    Your employer has bought a ticket for you either as a bonus
    or as a salary sacrifice
    or as some hybrid where some of the cost is a bonus and some is some salary sacrifice.

    If it's salary sacrifice, you will have some written evidence of these change to your terms and conditions. And they'll more'n likely say you agree to deducting the cost of an annual ticket from your pay, so the balance will more than likely be withheld from ble to both get a refund for the remainngyour final pay, if you choose to leave.

    Your employer, if they were a-holes, may be able to both get a refund for the remaining months and deduct you the cost as you agreed in writing to get the tax relief. Unfortuneately. ble to both get a refund for the remainng
    It's the thing with being the one real tax break for the working person, it can screw you too.


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    #40
    Collie D
    Registered Users Posts: 11,308 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    kryptonmight wrote: »
    I got a job offer last week and assuming there are no hiccups, I will most likely be leaving my current workplace who I have an annual taxsaver ticket through. I won't need the taxsaver ticket anymore as the new job is close to where I am living.

    Can I just give the card and ID back to my current employer without having to pay the remaining price of the ticket? As it stands I asked them to deduct the payment over 12 months and the ticket has only been valid since the start of January this year so I have only had payment deducted from one wage packet so far.

    As poster above said it probably depends on your employer. I know in my annual application to join the scheme it states that if we leave the company we have to pay the balance out of our final pay-cheque but that's my company's rules - nothing to do with Taxsaver.ie. I also have some vague memory of them being non-refundable but I'm not certain on this point.


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    #41
    kryptonmight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭kryptonmight


    Balls. Just checked, looks like I will be deducted the outstanding amount.

    Can I get a refund or something from Dublin bus directly? I won't need the ticket after i change jobs.


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    #42
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,557 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    kryptonmight wrote: »
    Balls. Just checked, looks like I will be deducted the outstanding amount.

    Can I get a refund or something from Dublin bus directly? I won't need the ticket after i change jobs.

    If your employer insists on deducting the full amount, there is nothing you can do - that's their prerogative.

    They bought the ticket from Dublin Bus, not you, I'm afraid. It is absolutely up to your employer what they do.

    I'd have to question why you ordered an annual pass and then barely a month later decided to change jobs?


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    #43
    kryptonmight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭kryptonmight


    lxflyer wrote: »
    If your employer insists on deducting the full amount, there is nothing you can do - that's their prerogative.

    They bought the ticket from Dublin Bus, not you, I'm afraid. It is absolutely up to your employer what they do.

    I'd have to question why you ordered an annual pass and then barely a month later decided to change jobs?

    The job offer was unexpected, I wasn't looking around for something else.

    Nice empty pay packet for me this month then.


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    #44
    murphy2
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭murphy2


    Cancelling Annual Tickets / Smart Cards


    Iarnród Éireann/Dublin Bus

    Please note that Annual products are based on a 10 month rate, with two months free and this discount is withdrawn if the ticket is cancelled so the refund/credit is based on the regular monthly rate by the number of months used.
    Your Annual ticket/card must be returned to Iarnród Éireann/Dublin Bus from your employer by Registered Post or Courier no later that 5th of the month.
    If you cancel your DART/Commuter Rail, Dublin Bus Only, Short Hop Rail & Dublin Bus, Rail & Luas or Dublin Bus & Luas ticket/card before eight months have expired then you may be due a refund on your ticket.
    If you cancel your Point-Point Intercity ticket before ten months have expired then you may be due a refund.
    Annual Tickets purchased through the taxsaver Commuter Scheme normally have employer conditions that can vary from company to company. It is advisable to seek clarification with your company administrator before seeking a refund.
    There is no refund given to Replacement Annual Tickets that were lost, stolen or destroyed during the year.
    Refunds on Annual Tickets will be calculated as follows: The cost of the appropriate Monthly Ticket multiplied by the number of months used is deducted from the amount paid for the Annual Ticket. There is no administration fee involved.

    Just took that off the taxsaver website, so it looks like your employer can be refunded the majority of the ticket so hopefully they pass that benefit on to you and you receive some pay this month :-)


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    #45
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,557 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Yes - but it is up to the employer to decide whether they bother to do that or not!


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    #46
    Phil.x
    Registered Users Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    A short hop rail ticket through tax saver scheme is €109.34 per month if paying 20% tax.

    Am I right in thinking it would cost me more than what I'm paying to leap at €100 per month if I got this tax saver ticket.

    Where is the saving?


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    #47
    magicbastarder
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    well, if you're currently spending €100 a month, a ticket costing €109 will be more expensive. no saving for you.


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    #48
    howiya
    Registered Users Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭howiya


    Phil.x wrote: »
    A short hop rail ticket through tax saver scheme is €109.34 per month if paying 20% tax.

    Am I right in thinking it would cost me more than what I'm paying to leap at €100 per month if I got this tax saver ticket.

    Where is the saving?

    For the same ticket, the weekly cap on Leap is €37. So if you were reaching the cap there would be a saving. Most people don't though. If you do two journeys a day 5 days a week you won't hit the cap. The value is in the unlimited nature of the ticket and obviously if you were paying 40% there would be a saving on the price of the ticket.


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