Number of Transfers and hits?

Bleating Lamb · 16-12-2014 11:22pm #1

Personally think I have had too many transfers this season....27 at this stage.
Have taken around 8 hits,and those 32 pts would have me in top 50 k territory...am around 250 k at mo.

sneachtafear · 16-12-2014 11:41pm

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Personally think I have had too many transfers this season....27 at this stage.
Have taken around 8 hits,and those 32 pts would have me in top 50 k territory...am around 250 k at mo.

20 transfers....5 hits and inside the top 1500.

Scorpion Sting · 17-12-2014 12:19am

17 transfers, 3 hits and in the top 1k.

FutureGuy · 17-12-2014 12:24am

10k. 11 hits for -44.

manual_man · 17-12-2014 12:27am

24 transfers, 4 hits: -8, -8, -4, and -16

OneColdHand · 17-12-2014 12:37am

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Personally think I have had too many transfers this season....27 at this stage.
Have taken around 8 hits,and those 32 pts would have me in top 50 k territory...am around 250 k at mo.

You can't look at it as simply as that though. Sure the hits cost you 32 points, but how many extra points have you gained due to having better (in theory!) players? You might actually be in a lower position if you hadn't taken the points hits.

dahat · 17-12-2014 12:37am

Rank is 8,700k

25 transfers total, 11 hits with Max -8

Edit....incorrect rank!

iroced · 17-12-2014 12:42am

dahat wrote: »

Rank is 8700k

25 transfers total, 11 hits with Max -8

Ouch... Was your team hacked ? There are only just a little bit less than 3390k players

:pac:.

Ziegler1988 · 17-12-2014 12:43am

17 transfers, only one hit (-4) so far

Copper_pipe · 17-12-2014 12:55am

23 transfers and 40 point hits

OneColdHand · 17-12-2014 12:59am

17 transfers, 3 hits (-12)

@Ziegler, how have you also made 17 transfers but only 1 hit?!

Ziegler1988 · 17-12-2014 1:07am

OneColdHand wrote: »

17 transfers, 3 hits (-12)

@Ziegler, how have you also made 17 transfers but only 1 hit?!

Ooh yeah, my bad. 16 transfers with the one I've made this GW included in that number.

FHFC · 17-12-2014 1:11am

21 transfers. 7 hits. -28
Overall rank 343

Started off poorly and tried to be too clever re hits/team value and it didn't work out. Took 4 hits GW 2-4 totaling -16 and maybe 1 was worth it.

So played wildcard in week 5 to sort things out and team value and rank has been steadily improving since.

No more hits till week 13 but have taken a -4 in 3 of the last 4 weeks. However I'd say all have paid off, 2 immediately as in gained points for the week, the other was to get RVP in week 14 which has paid off in spades from week 15 onwards.

Even including the two or three silly ones at the start I'm considerably more than 28 pts better off overall I reckon.

There is no hard and fast rule for hits, depends on where your team finds itself, and on the players involved outwards and inwards. I'd never bring somebody in for a hit just to try and score more that one week though. It's all about timing, and, for me, less about gaining immediate points, but rather timing it right so you can effectively get to make a second free transfer to keep shape on (and form players in) your team. Kompany (who I wanted anyway) in rather than play Dummett last week was a good example of that. The subsequent injury was unfortunate and doesn't change the logic.

tom_k · 17-12-2014 1:57am

Total transfers 17.

Three individual 4 point hits:

GW2's hit was Dzeko to Costa, that was worth it.

GW3's hit was Costa to Aguero, think it was the time of Jose's misleading chat about Costas injury, of course he played and scored 2. Got him back in on WC the following week.

Third hit was this week just gone (16), Chambers out for Kompany and now I gotta move him on too.

Overall rank, 1651.

G1032 · 17-12-2014 6:30am

20 transfers including this week
5 hits, all since GW 11
Just inside 17k place
Wildcard played

Hackers · 17-12-2014 9:32am

17 transfers including this week, just the 2 hits ( -8), wildcard played.

7,859 place overall, maybe I am a bit conservative when I look at FHFC hits and overall position!

OneColdHand · 17-12-2014 10:07am

Hackers wrote: »

17 transfers including this week, just the 2 hits ( -8), wildcard played.

7,859 place overall, maybe I am a bit conservative when I look at FHFC hits and overall position!

Ziegler is the approx the same ranking as FHFC, and has taken 1 hit! That's the beauty of the game - there's no right or wrong approach.

The important thing is to understand when it's a good time to take a hit and when not to.

OneColdHand · 17-12-2014 10:08am

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Ooh yeah, my bad. 16 transfers with the one I've made this GW included in that number.

Ah makes sense - I thought I was doing something horribly wrong! I haven't made a transfer yet this week, so will be up to 18. Maybe even 19 for my 4th hit of the year!

Rosco79 · 17-12-2014 10:21am

26 transfers and 11 hits.... inside top 20k

Shedite27 · 17-12-2014 10:23am

I've taken hits 4 weeks in a row...
GW13 to get in Baines
GW14 to get in Hazard
GW15 to ditch Baines (and spend the extra $)
GW16 to ditch Aguero (and spend the extra $)

Looks like this week I can do a one-for-one with Dzeko to someone, or take another -4 to get RVP.

2 points on this...

One thing I used to get hung up on was "did the -4 repay itself that week". Way I see it now, you need to look longer term. If the -4 you got in pays you back the following week, then that still counts, assuming you didn't have a spare transfer the following week. So even though Terry did nothing for me in GW15, he got me 8 in GW16, so Terry (2+8-4) trumps Baines (2+1) for example.
I hate leaving money go to waste when you know you can use it. If I have the chance to downgrade Yaya to Eriksen and upgrade Lukaku to RVP, I'd much prefer to go Yaya/Lukaku - Eriksen/RVP in one week (with a -4) rather than go Yaya/Lukaku - Eriksen/Lukaku - RVP/Eriksen.

FrClintPower · 17-12-2014 10:28am

18 transfers so far including 4 hits for -16. I don't seem to remember taking any hits in previous seasons, I think as a point of principle. But I've come to the conclusion that there's definitely a time and a place. Overall I'd say the hits I've taken so far have probably not gained me any points short term but have definitely left the squad in better shape over the medium term. Lying at ~11k at the moment.

Hackers · 17-12-2014 10:29am

Fair point, has me considering a hit now in defence as currently have Chambers, Bertrand & Duff there that could all do with an upgrade and I have 3.8M in the bank!

OneColdHand wrote: »

Ziegler is the approx the same ranking as FHFC, and has taken 1 hit! That's the beauty of the game - there's no right or wrong approach.

The important thing is to understand when it's a good time to take a hit and when not to.

cdev · 17-12-2014 10:40am

25 transfers (-48 points)
Wildcard Played
Inside top 1k

I try to look at "hits" like an investment (a risky one at times).
Been playing FPL for 8 years and am a self-confessed transferaholic. I can't be rehabilitated at this stage

CSF · 17-12-2014 10:47am

28 transfers
12 points hits.

That includes my 2 transfers in this week which were for a 4 point hit, so assuming I don't make another transfer this week, and subtracting wildcard week and week 1 when all transfers are free and not counted, that leaves me on an average of approx 1.86 transfers a week.

I'm a bit of a transfer maniac by nature, but this year, I've had a higher number than normal forced upon me. 2 of my weeks have involved 4 transfers.

alchemist33 · 17-12-2014 10:58am

OneColdHand wrote: »

Ziegler is the approx the same ranking as FHFC, and has taken 1 hit! That's the beauty of the game - there's no right or wrong approach.

The important thing is to understand when it's a good time to take a hit and when not to.

Exactly. The RIGHT hit is worth it.

Of course, deciding what is the right hit is the difficult part.

jimmii · 17-12-2014 11:02am

I'm pretty conservative a couple of years ago I took one hit all season but after a run of injuries the like I have never endured before I have had to take 7 hits 22 transfers total dropped a good bit the last two weeks currently 48k.

FHFC · 17-12-2014 11:07am

OneColdHand wrote: »

Ziegler is the approx the same ranking as FHFC, and has taken 1 hit! That's the beauty of the game - there's no right or wrong approach.

The important thing is to understand when it's a good time to take a hit and when not to.

Exactly. No rule that can really be applied.

As I said I took hits early on for the wrong reasons and they didn't work out. My main philosophy now is that as its important to keep your team from falling into disrepair with too many non performing players losing you both points and value, then if there is a strategic change you want to make (e.g. getting a City defender instead of Chambers last week) and you spot a situation where you may be able to make that change for a hit that has a high probability of also regaining the -4 quickly then that's the right time to take a hit.

TaytoCrisps · 17-12-2014 11:08am

23 transfers 9 transfer hits 2 8points hits and 5 4 points hits. 32k overall, apart from last day of the season points hits are worth the risk . last day points hits have cost me ! I'm sure I won't take one this season

Rikand · 17-12-2014 11:09am

22 transfers

8 hits (32 points)

2000th in the world

wildcard played

Chesty08 · 17-12-2014 11:18am

In the Top 1k OR

17 transfers

2 (-4) hits

One of those hits didn't work out! Had to transfer a player out straight away the following week.

The other was for Yaya & Costa last week which made me +4 as I would of had no other players on the bench available to step in

Mr.Prodston · 17-12-2014 4:42pm

Only 3 hits, I feel dirty. One of them was for Kevin Nolan though which is probably really worth -12 :pac: The others were faffing around with Di Maria. Taking him out for Hazard and bringing him back in for Fabregas before offloading him for Sanchez again.

18 transfers made. Wildcard only used a couple of GWs ago. 1.6k ranking if that's relevant.

I think I've made some bad transfers this year though in that I'm selling a player I bought in after one week for a player I considered but didn't opt for. Not necessarily terrible as I've been spotting players if not quite taking advantage the whole time.

Having players like Clyne, Fab, Costa, PVA, Colo from the start helped reduce transfers and Ramsey, Bardsley, Mata and Rooney all made good starts too. That's where I owe my ranking I think as well as hoping on Pelle and Aguero before they took off.

I haven't fallen below 18k since GW 4 so it's the complete opposite to last season where no matter what I did (bar not buying Yaya) I couldn't break 100k. I've played it very safe for the most part this year and gotten a few more sensible gambles right and a couple of off the ball ones (Nolan/RVP (c) same GW) wrong.

menoscemo · 17-12-2014 5:19pm

Rank 3,100
Total Transfers 19. 4 Hits (-4, -4, -4 and -8) all in the last 6 weeks. In those 6 weeks i have moved from 11k to 3.1k overall

The minus 8 last week actually brought me a net gain of 15pts in the gameweek and even more when you see that i captained one of my Transfers in (hazard) for 28 total. My next best captain option would have got me 18pts so I gained at least 25pts as a direct result of the -8 hit.

Other weeks I have made no immediate gain on the actual GW (e.g. GW 11 my -4 was Sterling to Downing.) Sterling gained 1 point on Downing in GW 11 (4pts to 3pts) but since then Downing has outscored Sterling 26pts to 16pts so the -4 has been worth it in the long run. (the other transfer that week was Moreno to Chambers and Chambers has outsocred him by 13 to 9 since then).

What I have learned in the last 6 GWs is that it is worth taking hits in both the long and short term if there is soemthing wrong in your team.

Benimar · 17-12-2014 5:37pm

16 transfers. 2 hits for at total -8

WC played

OR 660

iroced · 17-12-2014 5:50pm

Right.

As of my post and with a friend of mine, my missus and my own figures, out of 27 boardsies the average transfers made is 20.6, which represents about 1.4 transfers per GW (I counted 15 GWs since there are no transfers for GW1 - it goes up to about 1.5/GW if I only count 14 GWs assuming everyone played its WC

).

So. I'm below average here.
19 transfers. 1 8 pts hit, 3 4 pts hits.
Overall rank 96k though don't think it has any relation to the topic, my bad enough ranking is 99% due to my many captain failures

.

Iused2likebusts · 17-12-2014 6:53pm

FHFC wrote: »

Exactly. No rule that can really be applied.

As I said I took hits early on for the wrong reasons and they didn't work out. My main philosophy now is that as its important to keep your team from falling into disrepair with too many non performing players losing you both points and value, then if there is a strategic change you want to make (e.g. getting a City defender instead of Chambers last week) and you spot a situation where you may be able to make that change for a hit that has a high probability of also regaining the -4 quickly then that's the right time to take a hit.

Just always remember that a - 4 is a -4 no matter what spin you put on it ha.

G1032 · 17-12-2014 7:05pm

Some amount of people in here ranked in or around the top couple of thousand overall.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't remember this many being ranked so high in the last couple of seasons.

Really seems to have been an exceptional year so far for the forum as a whole. Long may it last.

I wonder how many non posters are dipping in and out of here and benefiting from the information available?

Sh!tloads I'd say!

Bleating Lamb · 17-12-2014 7:27pm

G1032 wrote: »

Some amount of people in here ranked in or around the top couple of thousand overall.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't remember this many being ranked so high in the last couple of seasons.

Really seems to have been an exceptional year so far for the forum as a whole. Long may it last.

I wonder how many non posters are dipping in and out of here and benefiting from the information available?

Sh!tloads I'd say!

I must be a dud at the game,more of a casual player than serious but do follow the forum here intermittently....didnt have a great start...that's what I blame my 250k rank on...and a few poor captaincy wks.

Iused2likebusts · 17-12-2014 7:59pm

19 transfers and I've taken 5 points hits.

manual_man · 17-12-2014 8:31pm

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

I must be a dud at the game,more of a casual player than serious but do follow the forum here intermittently....didnt have a great start...that's what I blame my 250k rank on...and a few poor captaincy wks.

can be very hard when you get off to a slow start alright. all the same 250k is by no means bad, it's still well above average, and we're not even half-way through the season

as regards hits they can work out, or not, simple as. my (well publicized

) -16pt hit a few weeks ago has seen me rise 15k places since (and i didn't even have Aguero the gameweek of the hit - he scored 2 assisted 1 and was captained by many). points hits are a gamble, but ultimately you have to act quick to keep up in this game, and taking the odd hit will often be part of that

kronsington · 17-12-2014 8:41pm

Having my best season yet and I've taken one hit all year.. Looks like that might be two this weekend though

irish son · 17-12-2014 8:53pm

20 transfers made and 6 hits (-24) and rank of 45k. I'm being a bit more conservative this year, last year I ended up making 53 transfers with 18 hits (-72) finishing 6k.

Shedite27 · 17-12-2014 9:11pm

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

I must be a dud at the game,more of a casual player than serious but do follow the forum here intermittently....didnt have a great start...that's what I blame my 250k rank on...and a few poor captaincy wks.

I'm just hoping this place wears off on me. Currently 154k, highest ever finish in 7 seasons was 237k.

I'd say it's demoralizing if you're measuring yourself against this place, but in my money league it's great.

sheroman01 · 17-12-2014 11:50pm

Having my best season too. Was in the top 40k after GW12 but poor run of form has me in 90k now. I've taken a lot of hits, 26 transfers and 1 WC (one -8pt hit and the rest -4pt hits). The vast majority of my transfers have worked out well this season thankfully (most notably bringing Chamber in for his 18pt haul :P).

Edit: Wow, that's -40pts I've taken in hits :P

FHFC · 18-12-2014 12:47am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Just always remember that a - 4 is a -4 no matter what spin you put on it ha.

Yer good at the oul FPL an all, but leave the maths to the professionals my friend!

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gormdubhgorm · 18-12-2014 3:15am

36 transfer points and below the top 400 rank at the time of writing,

If you think you have the knowledge/homework done take the hit.

Ask will it benefit the team in the long run? 4-5 gameweeks. Two gameweeks at least!

As long as you think that the cumulative transfers in will give you a profit in points compared to the ones you transferred out go for it.

anything above -8 is really pushing it better to wildcard where a -12 hit is needed.

It keeps the team fresh and keeps you ahead of the pack if done right.

Shedite27 · 18-12-2014 10:13am

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Ask will it benefit the team in the long run? 4-5 gameweeks. Two gameweeks at least!

Yeah I think you need to be thinking 4/5 gameweeks really. No matter how good someone is, there's no such thing as a season keeper. Few months ago I would have thought Aguero, Siggy, Costa, Cesc were in my team to stay, all gone now.

4/5 weeks at a time, who knows how a team will be playing after that. 4/5 weeks is plenty to make back a -4, then move on if needs be.

NabyLadistheman · 18-12-2014 10:24am

I've 23 transfers and 8 hits. Seems bad on the face of it but after starting out poor enough It's been all green arrows except for 1 GW and I am up to 45,000. Finished in the top 3,000 last year so hoping for a repeat performance.

Also still have my wildcard available to me

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