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"Plastic Paddy"?

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  • 17-08-2009 10:23pm
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    brummytom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭


    I was just having a discussion with someone about the term 'plastic paddy' being used to describe someone who professes their Irish heritage (be it strong or very weak).

    Boards being an Irish-based site with most users 'Irish' born and bred.. what do you think of the term? D'you think it's fair enough or insulting someone just for being proud of where they come from.


    Personally, I've been asked if I'm Irish a good number of times (be it because I've been at an Irish event/venue, talking about Irish music or, weirdly, my pronounciation of certain words :confused:) I always say "No, just from an Irish family" so as not to sound like one of these. Should I be afraid to say yes (like that old quote, 'Just because a cow's born in a stable doesn't make it a horse')

    Anyway, discuss...


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    DublinWriter
    Registered Users Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Brummytom, who feckin' cares, get on with your neighbours, wear a clean shirt, be polite to strangers and stop worrying the bone over what particular piece of rock you originated from on planet Earth.


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    brummytom
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    DublinWriter wrote: »
    Brummytom, who feckin' cares, get on with your neighbours, wear a clean shirt, be polite to strangers and stop worrying the bone over what particular piece of rock you originated from on planet Earth.

    Fair play


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    El Guapo!
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    Its mainly Americans that do this I think........"my great great great grandfather was quarter Irish so I'm also Irish":rolleyes:......pisses me right off.

    You wouldn't hear them bragging......"Yeah I'm quarter Afghanistani and damn proud WOOOO SPRING BREAK!!".....................................you tit! :mad:


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    dlofnep
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    Think it's more aimed at Americans, who's great great great uncle knew a dog, who's father was from Ireland.


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    My name is URL
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    I have no problem with anyone having even a misplaced pride in Ireland, it's better than hating us.


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    stovelid
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    Usually think of the inflatable hammer types you see at Ireland games, or (as already said) certain Americans, myself.


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    dlofnep
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    I have no problem with anyone having even a misplaced pride in Ireland, it's better than hating us.

    True enough. We could be smelly famine-ship bastards.


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    boogle
    Registered Users Posts: 777 ✭✭✭boogle


    Irish people don't seem to mind if the "Plastic Paddies" in question are any good at soccer...


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    Latchy
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    If you have Irish blood in your family tree and one or both of your parents /grandparents are Irish then you have every right to describe yourself as Irish ,as much or as little as you wish .The term Plastic paddy is sometimes used to describe some people with little or no irish blood in them as ' not really one of us ', which is ironic considering that miillions of people around the world are of 2nd 3rd etc generation Irish and would consider themself 'Irish ' of Irish stock . I dont like the term myself which is more fitting of somebody wearing a guinness hat or dressed up in Leprecaun outfit over to Dublin for a weekend and most of them would know the difference anyway .


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    dlofnep
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    boogle wrote: »
    Irish people don't seem to mind if the "Plastic Paddies" in question are any good at soccer...

    Tony Cascarino?


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    stovelid
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    boogle wrote: »
    Irish people don't seem to mind if the "Plastic Paddies" in question are any good at soccer...

    How dare that sassenach Kitson turn us down.

    He likes drink-driving and he's a ginge. How much more a fit could the man have been?


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    Fratton Fred
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    <Insert airport scene from Mike Basset England manager here>


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    TheZohanS
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    stovelid wrote: »
    How dare that sassenach Kitson turn us down.

    And Stephen Ireland!


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    boogle
    Registered Users Posts: 777 ✭✭✭boogle


    stovelid wrote: »
    How dare that sassenach Kitson turn us down.

    He likes drink-driving and he's a ginge. How much more a fit could the man have been?


    AND I think his girlfriend is called Jacinteh.


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    Mr.Obvious
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    I have a friend who's dad is irish. He's living in ireland now and he thinks flogging molly are cool. Like a true irishman i cringe whenever i hear them.

    His ringtone is a gay-sounding punk version of a jig i remember having to play at mass in primary school when the girls were dancing up the aisle during their communion.

    When he's drunk and his phone goes off he sometimes moshes to it for a second. Each time he does so I die a little inside.


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    brummytom
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    Mr.Obvious wrote: »
    I have a friend who's dad is irish. He's living in ireland now and he thinks flogging molly are cool. Like a true irishman i cringe whenever i hear them.

    His ringtone is a gay-sounding punk version of a jig i remember having to play at mass in primary school when the girls were dancing up the aisle during their communion.

    When he's drunk and his phone goes off he sometimes moshes to it for a second. Each time he does so I die a little inside.

    Oh God, Flogging Molly/Dropkick Murphys/Other **** American wannabe-Pogues should be ****ing killed.

    To me Irish music=Dubliners; Can't stand these punk types (except for The Pogues, Rainy Night In Soho is an amazing song)


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    murfie
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    If you look into what country Americans claim to have heritage from Ireland is on the top of the majority of everyone's list. I never hear other countries mentioned as much which begs the question why?

    We seem to have a place in American heritage that I for one am delighted that we do, as it makes it far easier for a true Irish to get ahead of other immigrants. Call them plastic paddy if you like but I exploit that fact whenever I get the chance!!


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    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    brummytom wrote: »
    To me Irish music=Dubliners

    There's more to trad than the Dubliners, boy.


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    Overheal
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    I got called this once. Despite having never in my life pronounced a lonely tear of irish blood.


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    banjopaul
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    Stephen Scruffy Coffeepot wrote: »
    There's more to trad than the Dubliners, boy.

    Hell yeah, and the Dubliners wouldn't be very high on my list to be honest.


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    Adamcp898
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    NBB Bohs wrote: »
    What about the Plastic Mancs, scousers etc. in Oireland?

    Here comes the LoI supporter........


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    brummytom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Stephen Scruffy Coffeepot wrote: »
    There's more to trad than the Dubliners, boy.
    Yep, they're just my one massive obsession :P

    Earlier groups like The Clancys, Cheiftains, Planxty, and later (manufactered) ones like The High Kings, The Kilkennys etc and individuals like Sharon Shannon, Gerry O'Connor, Kieran Hanrahan, Sean McGuire all have their part to play; but The Dubliners to me just sum up Irish music.

    I'm not a complete trad. phillistine, just have my own personal tastes :P


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    Adamcp898
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    NBB Bohs wrote: »
    ''League of Ireland supporter''? Eh no. Bohemian FC supporter.

    No but judging by your post you're just dying to tell everyone how much better of a fan you are than everyone else just because you go to Dalymount every second week


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    Adamcp898
    Registered Users Posts: 5,469 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    NBB Bohs wrote: »
    No I just said on a thread about ''Plastic Paddys'' we have have our own oirish Plastic Brits.

    Yes, that's all you were saying


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