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  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Tv2013


    Trying to get my father passport renewed, out of date by three years. Can't be done online informed by passport office and has to be done by post.

    Went to the guards to get photos signed only to be informed that they won't sign because his passport is out of date and they require a picture ID but he only has the passport and no driving license.

    What can be done to sort this situation ou


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,441 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    If your passport gets lost abroad, how long does it take to replace it?

    While living abroad or while on a short trip? If while on a short trip, contact the nearest consulate about getting a one use travel permit to get you home. It's 10 years since I had to avail of this while in NY. Took about30 mins at consulate but I had prenotified and got all the documentation to them in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Send your father to the Garda station, I don't understand why they won't sign the photo. Just because it's expired doesn't mean that he has ceased to be the person named in the document.

    And when you go to the Garda station to get the photos stamped, isn't it the case that everyone in that situation has an expired passport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭Eponymous


    coylemj wrote: »
    Send your father to the Garda station, I don't understand why they won't sign the photo. Just because it's expired doesn't mean that he has ceased to be the person named in the document.

    And when you go to the Garda station to get the photos stamped, isn't it the case that everyone in that situation has an expired passport?
    Agree with your first point. On the second however, I think most people renew passports before the previous one expires.

    But I'd be puzzled about why they wouldn't sign unless the OP's dad wasn't present when the photos were presented to be stamped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    Was your Dad present? Can't see why the Garda would not sign the form in that case. He should as to see a different Garda.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Tv2013


    Eponymous wrote: »
    Agree with your first point. On the second however, I think most people renew passports before the previous one expires.

    But I'd be puzzled about why they wouldn't sign unless the OP's dad wasn't present when the photos were presented to be stamped.

    He did go into them, they wanted valid in date photo id to verify it is him which he doesn't have except passport, they won't even except birth cert


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    Just pop in to a different garda station - that was a garda taking the rules a little too literal.

    Garda just needs to be happy that the photograph is the person in front of him and the person is who he says.

    A combination of something recently addressed to him and the expired licence is probably best.

    Also maybe go on a quiet day :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    Just pop in to a different garda station - that was a garda taking the rules a little too literal.

    Went to Donnybrook GS one day as it was near work, copper said I had to go to my local station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Eponymous wrote: »
    Agree with your first point. On the second however, I think most people renew passports before the previous one expires.

    There's enough panic posts on boards about last minute passport renewals to debunk that claim. My last passport expired in January, I renewed it in April.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    Does he need a public service card to renew his passport now? I know there was something in the media about that in the last few weeks. Maybe this is what the garda meant?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Miaireland wrote: »
    Does he need a public service card to renew his passport now? I know there was something in the media about that in the last few weeks. Maybe this is what the garda meant?

    It's required now for the driving licence renewal, don't think it's yet a requirement for the passport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    coylemj wrote: »
    Went to Donnybrook GS one day as it was near work, copper said I had to go to my local station.

    You can go to any garda station. The garda simply has to be satisfied that you are who you say you are.

    Bringing old passport and a couple of other documents such as household bills should suffice.

    Another option is to revisit the garda station as its rare that same garda will be on Duty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    coylemj wrote: »
    It's required now for the driving licence renewal, don't think it's yet a requirement for the passport.

    It's not required. I don't have one and renewed my licence without issue.

    /OP, I'd say you met either a guard on a power trip or a rookie who was afraid to apply common sense. Just go back with your father and you should be ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    You can go to any garda station. The garda simply has to be satisfied that you are who you say you are.

    I pointed that out to the Garda on duty - that all he was required to do was to certify that I was the person named on the form and the person in the photos and I had other photo ID (including my current driving licence and recently expired passport) with me to verify my name and address but he refused to deal with me as I didn't live in the area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    It's not required. I don't have one and renewed my licence without issue.

    +1 I was wrong, the public service card is now (since June 17) required to do the driver's theory test, it's not (yet) required for a licence renewal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    Marcusm wrote: »
    While living abroad or while on a short trip? If while on a short trip, contact the nearest consulate about getting a one use travel permit to get you home. It's 10 years since I had to avail of this while in NY. Took about30 mins at consulate but I had prenotified and got all the documentation to them in advance.

    Really 30 minutes, wow...that's fast.

    But I suppose that's because you were in the United States. If we're talking about a short trip in Africa, what would the length of time be? Especially if someone was naturalised so they wouldn't have their citizenship certificate on hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    In regard to the passport cards, how long does it take to get them? I'll be travelling soon (month's time).

    I already have a passport, am 19yrs old and it's valid until 2019.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    In regard to the passport cards, how long does it take to get them? I'll be travelling soon (month's time).

    I already have a passport, am 19yrs old and it's valid until 2019.
    can be with you within a few days from application. Its really quick anyhow.

    btw, i presume you know that the card would only be valid until 2019, but if youre travelling extensively on the continent then it might still pay off as a backup to a bulky old style perishable paper book passport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,441 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    In regard to the passport cards, how long does it take to get them? I'll be travelling soon (month's time).

    I already have a passport, am 19yrs old and it's valid until 2019.

    I submitted my application at 5pm on Thursday and the postman delivered the card before 9am Monday. If your passport is lost, you have to report it as such. If it's only temporarily out of your possession it might not be a problem. You need the passport number, expiry date etc to get the passport card.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Marcusm wrote: »
    I submitted my application at 5pm on Thursday and the postman delivered the card before 9am Monday. If your passport is lost, you have to report it as such. If it's only temporarily out of your possession it might not be a problem. You need the passport number, expiry date etc to get the passport card.

    If your passport is lost, you really should be applying for a full passport, not a passport card. The passport card is not intended as a replacement for a lost passport.

    Regarding your comment about a passport being "temporarily out of your possession", the Passport Office consider such passports as Lost, because you can't stand over whether or not that passport has been tampered with or used for identity fraud during the period of time that it was out of your possession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,899 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Tv2013 wrote: »
    Trying to get my father passport renewed, out of date by three years. Can't be done online informed by passport office and has to be done by post.

    according to the website you can renew online if passport is less than 5 years out fo date


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    Passport tracker says passport dispatched Friday , an post tracker says delivered Monday. I never got it! Feck!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Cloudio9 wrote: »
    Passport tracker says passport dispatched Friday , an post tracker says delivered Monday. I never got it! Feck!

    Sounds like an issue with an post, more than the passport office. Get on to your local sorting office, see if they have it. Check with your neighbours as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 VHF1


    Does a passport delivery require a signature like registered post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭blackbird 49


    VHF1 wrote: »
    Does a passport delivery require a signature like registered post?

    No it is usually sent by standard post


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    No it is usually sent by standard post

    No it's not sent standard post as the delivery is recorded but no signature required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Cloudio9 wrote: »
    No it is usually sent by standard post

    No it's not sent standard post as the delivery is recorded but no signature required.

    Indeed, Passport Express is a form of post in itself which is best described as somewhere between standard and registered post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,441 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    fxotoole wrote: »
    If your passport is lost, you really should be applying for a full passport, not a passport card. The passport card is not intended as a replacement for a lost passport.

    Regarding your comment about a passport being "temporarily out of your possession", the Passport Office consider such passports as Lost, because you can't stand over whether or not that passport has been tampered with or used for identity fraud during the period of time that it was out of your possession.

    Temporarily out of your possession might more usefully be interpreted as with an embassy to receive a visa or at my mother's house 200 miles away!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    VHF1 wrote: »
    Does a passport delivery require a signature like registered post?

    No


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭cdsb46


    fxotoole wrote: »
    No

    It does if the passport is being delivered outside of Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    cdsb46 wrote: »
    It does if the passport is being delivered outside of Ireland

    The poster didn't specify whether he was applying from abroad or not, so I assumed he wasn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Does your signature have to be confined to the small line on page 3? What if you have a long name or you writing is not small?

    I don't think it's a big deal if your signature goes outside the line


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


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    I'd say most aren't signed at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,104 ✭✭✭mada999


    Hi folks,

    Wonder if you can help?

    I was abroad and returned back in Dublin last Friday. I'm dude to go on holidays next Saturday but I now cannot find my passport (only realised when going to check in today). I live in the North East.

    I was looking at passport appointments and the earliest appointment is Thursday morning in Dublin. I'm thinking thats a bit tight for time so i've managed to get an appointment on Tuesday in Cork.

    Do you think i'd get a new one before next Saturday? Or should i chance going up to the passport office in Dublin on Tuesday and seeing if i can get one issued?

    I'm thinking to head to Cork for the appointment and hopefully collect it next Friday (hopefully they have it ready). Anyone used passport appointments before?

    thanks,


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭cdsb46


    mada999 wrote: »
    Hi folks,

    Wonder if you can help?

    I was abroad and returned back in Dublin last Friday. I'm dude to go on holidays next Saturday but I now cannot find my passport (only realised when going to check in today). I live in the North East.

    I was looking at passport appointments and the earliest appointment is Thursday morning in Dublin. I'm thinking thats a bit tight for time so i've managed to get an appointment on Tuesday in Cork.

    Do you think i'd get a new one before next Saturday? Or should i chance going up to the passport office in Dublin on Tuesday and seeing if i can get one issued?

    I'm thinking to head to Cork for the appointment and hopefully collect it next Friday (hopefully they have it ready). Anyone used passport appointments before?

    thanks,

    If you can go to the appointment in Cork then you should have your passport by friday, they may even allow you to collect it in Dublin. Going to the Dublin office without an appointment will be pointless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,104 ✭✭✭mada999


    cdsb46 wrote: »
    If you can go to the appointment in Cork then you should have your passport by friday, they may even allow you to collect it in Dublin. Going to the Dublin office without an appointment will be pointless

    cheers thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    mada999 wrote: »
    Do you think i'd get a new one before next Saturday? Or should i chance going up to the passport office in Dublin on Tuesday and seeing if i can get one issued?

    I'm thinking to head to Cork for the appointment and hopefully collect it next Friday (hopefully they have it ready). Anyone used passport appointments before?
    They need a minimum of three days to turn around a passport and need proof of travel. It will also cost a bit more than your standard passport application.
    I had to use the service earlier this year. I landed in with my application on a Wednesday afternoon and they had my passport for me by Friday afternoon. Great service really. I had my old expired passport so not sure what you will need to present in terms of documentation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,104 ✭✭✭mada999


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    They need a minimum of three days to turn around a passport and need proof of travel. It will also cost a bit more than your standard passport application.
    I had to use the service earlier this year. I landed in with my application on a Wednesday afternoon and they had my passport for me by Friday afternoon. Great service really. I had my old expired passport so not sure what you will need to present in terms of documentation.

    thanks, i'm having a mini heart attack here and i cant find my Birth cert either.

    was on the dfa website and it says that i do not need to take my Birth cert if my previous passport was issued after 2005.

    Text is below... am i reading it correctly or am i going insane?

    You need to include these documents when you’re making your passport application. If your lost/stolen/damaged Passport was issued on or after 1 January 2005 and your new Passport will issue in the same name you are not required to submit the following documentation - Birth Certificate, Marriage Certificate, entitlement to Irish citizenship

    link is below also

    https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/how-to-apply-for-a-passport/ireland/born-in-ireland/adult-lost-stolen-damaged/anytime/between-3-and-10-working-days/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    mada999 wrote: »
    thanks, i'm having a mini heart attack here and i cant find my Birth cert either.

    was on the dfa website and it says that i do not need to take my Birth cert if my previous passport was issued after 2005.

    Text is below... am i reading it correctly or am i going insane?

    You need to include these documents when you’re making your passport application. If your lost/stolen/damaged Passport was issued on or after 1 January 2005 and your new Passport will issue in the same name you are not required to submit the following documentation - Birth Certificate, Marriage Certificate, entitlement to Irish citizenship

    link is below also

    https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/how-to-apply-for-a-passport/ireland/born-in-ireland/adult-lost-stolen-damaged/anytime/between-3-and-10-working-days/


    You're reading it correctly. If your most recently issues passport was issued on or after 1st Jan 2005, they will be able to pull up your documentation on their system, so you don't need to provide it again. Provided that your name is exactly the same as last time around, you don't need to provide your birth cert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭steppen


    Quick question. Has anyone used their passport card to travel within the EU. Hitting Amsterdam on Monday for a few days. Flying into Schipol from Belfast. Irish passport card should be acceptable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Yes, the EU countries all know about it by now. That's pretty much the only use there for them - that and flying with Ryanair to the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    While it is valid, if you want to get through airports quickly a passport is faster as it works the egates, passport card does not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    steppen wrote: »
    Quick question. Has anyone used their passport card to travel within the EU. Hitting Amsterdam on Monday for a few days. Flying into Schipol from Belfast. Irish passport card should be acceptable?
    Used mine flying out of Verona last month. It was the first time the check-in person had seen one but she had no issue with it. Also got delayed for a few minutes going through security as one of the security guards took the opportunity to show it to his colleague while pointing out the features of the card to her. They're clearly aware of it and while it's new (for us anyway) it shouldn't be an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,835 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Will the passport card ever work with the e-gates? Its meant to have the same features as a normal passport isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


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    Whilst Border Control have no issue with Passport cards some of the Airlines still do.

    I've had issues with a few of them at the gate when flying within Schengen.

    Last time was in Barcelona and a Norwegian Airlines agent was saying I needed to provide valid identification as the only took Passports or ID Cards and she didn't know what a Passport card was.

    I was waiting for around 20 minutes holding up one half of the boarding gate while she was ringing some people. She then asked me for my driving license, showed her that (It's a Dutch License) and she said that's no good I need to provide an Irish document to back it up.

    Eventually she took a picture of my Passport Card and my Driving license on a phone (don't know if it was her personal phone) and told me to bring some proper ID next time. Told her it was proper ID and she said "Maybe it is somewhere else but not in Spain"

    Complained to Norwegian and didn't hear anything back.


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