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Gaming build?

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  • 31-08-2014 8:51pm
    #1
    laneooo
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭


    Hey,
    1. What is your budget? 800

    2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Only Gaming!

    3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [Yes]

    4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [no]

    5. Do you need a monitor? [no]

    6. Do you need any of these peripherals? No

    7. Are you willing to try overclocking? Yes but i can upgrade cooling wise as much as i want in January wont be overclocking as of now.

    8. How can you pay? any

    9. When are you purchasing? Within 30 days

    10. Do you need help building it? No

    Guys
    I'm looking at getting a build at the end of September but i want to get it below 800 or even cheaper this is what i have but i'm completely new to this so any help is great

    HV1032IJDE/ Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 OC Windforce/ 365,03 €
    HV20G760DE/ 8GB-Kit G.Skill ram/ 80,02 €
    HV1140MSDE/ MSI Z97 PC Mate, Sockel 1150, ATX/ 80,83 €
    HV20469KDE/ Intel Core i5-4690K Box, LGA1150/ 212,12 €
    HV0653578001DE/ Sale: Corsair Carbide Series 200R, ATX/ 40,80 €
    HVR601SBDE/ be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 600W 68,32 €
    HV12Z740DE/ Crucial MX100 SSD 128GB/ 59,99 €

    Don't need HDD.

    That comes to 907,11 €

    Basically i want to play games new one's GTA V etc. at 1440p looking at getting a QNIX monitor.
    Been looking at videos on youtube about cross firing two r9 280 seems to get much better FPS than one r9 290 would love to here any opinions about this.

    I also would like a quiet pc so any changes i can make to improve this would be helpful
    Thanks for any help appreciated.


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    #2
    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    Get the crucial ram. 61 Euro.

    PSU try get the be quiet 600w . Is 64 Euro.

    Have you looked into Maxwell Gpu?


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    #3
    SlipslideDC
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭SlipslideDC


    Hi All,
    I'm under pressure to build or buy a PC for Gaming mainly and every day use.
    I have never built before but am technically ok.
    I was looking on hardwareversand and came up with this spec.....am i ott or could someone recommend one at similar level but cheaper!! Iwas thinking of around €600 but I am trying to future proof a wee bit! Any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks,


    HV20X835DE AMD FX-8350 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+ 151,51 €
    HV1145UNDE ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0, AM3+, ATX 152,24 €
    HV20CD10DE 4GB Corsair Vengeance blau PC3-12800U CL9 40,74 €
    HV20CD10DE 4GB Corsair Vengeance blau PC3-12800U CL9 40,74 €
    HV0680101501DE Sale: Zalman Z9 USB 3.0 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil 46,95 €
    HVR452CSDE Corsair VS Serie VS450, Non-Modular, 80+ 34,99 €
    HV1038MVDE MSI R7 260X 2GD5 OC, AMD Radeon R7 260X, 2GB DDR5 112,31 €
    HV13SB72DE Seagate Barracuda 7200 2000GB, SATA 6Gb/s 75,25 €
    HV12Z740DE Crucial MX100 SSD 128GB (2,5", 7mm) 59,99 €
    HV207ASZDE ASUS BC-12D2HT/BLK/G Retail Silent 59,90 €
    HVSE7HH6DE OEM Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation 79,90 €
    HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 19,99 €

    Total value: 874,51 €


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    #4
    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    For starters get familiar with Geizhals.de. use it for all your parts saves about 30-50 Euro.

    Second drop the mobo and CPU.

    Instead get an I5 4690k and an MSI z97 gaming 5 mobo. Slightly more expensive that your AMD combo but way better.

    The ram. Get 8 gigs of crucial 1600 ram. 61 Euro will cancel extra cost of the Intel set up above.

    Get your windows on reddit. Costs 15 Euro. Put the savings from this into your Gpu. Then get an MSI r9270 . Or a gtx 760.


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    SlipslideDC
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭SlipslideDC


    Cheers SterlingArcher,
    Is there a AMD side and a Intel side when it comes to this choice?
    And is it not better to run 2 x ram's side by side......just read this through a quick google!
    Thanks for reply, now going onto Geizhals.de for a quick look :-)


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    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    Intel Core i5-4690K Box, LGA1150 ready for dispatch 203,18 € 1 203,18 €



    Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3, Sockel 1150, ATX ready for dispatch 89,03 € 1 89,03 €



    be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 500W - bulk -ready for dispatch 52,02 € 1 52,02 €



    ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5, GeForce GTX 760, 2GB GDDR5 ready for dispatch 206,84 € 1 206,84 €



    WD Green 1TB, SATA 6Gb/s (WD10EZRX) ready for dispatch 45,26 € 1 45,26 €


    8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9 ready for dispatch 63,60 € 1 63,60 €


    Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6GB/s 6,4CM (2,5") 7mm ready for dispatch 57,34 € 1 57,34 €


    Antec One, ATX, ohne Netzteil ready for dispatch (only 1 article) 45,75 € 1 45,75 €

    Factoring amounts at a glance amount 763,02 € + Shipping costs + 6,99 € = credit amount 770,01 €


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    #7
    laneooo
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭laneooo


    SterlingArcher wrote: »
    Get the crucial ram. 61 Euro.

    PSU try get the be quiet 600w . Is 64 Euro.

    Have you looked into Maxwell Gpu?
    Thanks
    Is there much differance between the ram tho as the 8GB Crucial is 1333 MHz and the 8GB-Kit G.Skill is 2133 MHz
    Will go with the psu that you recommended.


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    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    SlipslideDC wrote: »
    Cheers SterlingArcher,
    Is there a AMD side and a Intel side when it comes to this choice?
    And is it not better to run 2 x ram's side by side......just read this through a quick google!
    Thanks for reply, now going onto Geizhals.de for a quick look :-)

    The build above will be much better than the AMD build nothing against AMD but the Intel devils canyon CPU is superior cooling ,power and performance wise.
    Better graphics card with the gtx 760 over the r9 260x. I did only put 1 tb HDD in. But you can up that.

    With regards to ram. Really not hugely noticeable when you are gaming or other regular tasks. If you feel better with the 4 x2 then go the route.


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    laneooo
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭laneooo


    SterlingArcher wrote: »
    Get the crucial ram. 61 Euro.

    PSU try get the be quiet 600w . Is 64 Euro.

    Have you looked into Maxwell Gpu?
    No but a quick google search is it a new card or something?


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    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    laneooo wrote: »
    Thanks
    Is there much differance between the ram tho as the 8GB Crucial is 1333 MHz and the 8GB-Kit G.Skill is 2133 MHz
    Will go with the psu that you recommended.

    the crucial ballistic sport 1600 is 63?
    There is no real difference in 1600/1300. you would never notice gaming.


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    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    laneooo wrote: »
    No but a quick google search is it a new card or something?

    Has been speculation of an October release on the maxwell. Since you are only buying end of September might be worth the wait. Ment to have a nice performance increase and price. Either way will have knock on prices of current Gpu win win for you.


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    laneooo
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭laneooo


    SterlingArcher wrote: »
    Has been speculation of an October release on the maxwell. Since you are only buying end of September might be worth the wait. Ment to have a nice performance increase and price. Either way will have knock on prices of current Gpu win win for you.
    Cheers researching for the last 2 weeks didn't see anything about the maxwell thanks.


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    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    laneooo wrote: »
    Cheers researching for the last 2 weeks didn't see anything about the maxwell thanks.

    Don't forget to use Geizhals at a glance will save you 50 euro.


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    #14
    BloodBath
    Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    @laneoo

    Ram Speed makes 0 difference for gaming. Go for the cheapest you can get.

    If you want to stick to your budget go with an i5 4460 and a cheaper mainboard. A cheap H81 board will do fine. You will get identical frame rates in the majority of games.

    Getting silence with an R9 290 is not going to happen easily. Go for the Club3d R9 290. Easily the best one available. You could modify the fan profiles to make this completely silent at it's stock speeds which are already pre overclocked to a decent level.

    If you have any monies left over go for a better case.

    @SlipslideDC

    I'd say you're also better off getting the cheaper i5 4460 with a cheap mobo like the Asrock H81 and putting the 100+ saved into the gpu. You could get an R9 280 with a good cooler. Something like The MSI gaming version.


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    #15
    SlipslideDC
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭SlipslideDC


    Thanks all for the replies, but I have to ask again is there a favoritism towards Intel or is AMD just an inferior product? Have ye all tested AMD?


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    #16
    laneooo
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭laneooo


    This is what i have put together now is this compatible?
    @BloodBath what case would u recommended for noise/quiet and would u go with the i5-4690K over the i5 4460 for the sake of 20 euro
    Can't seem to get a discount on that gpu?

    815,78 €
    Article No. HV1037DUDE
    Club 3D Radeon R9 290 royalAce mit MANTLE und Gaming Evolved Client, 4GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort
    328,11 €

    Article No. HV20G729DE
    8GB G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-12800U CL10
    70,04 €

    Article No. HV1139MFDE
    MSI H81-P33, ATX, Sockel 1150
    51,78 €

    Article No. HV20469KDE
    Intel Core i5-4690K Box, LGA1150
    203,18 €

    Article No. HV0653578001DE
    Sale: Corsair Carbide Series 200R, ATX, ohne Netzteil
    40,80 €

    Article No. HV12Z740DE
    Crucial MX100 SSD 128GB (2,5", 7mm)
    57,65 €

    Article No. HVR601SBDE
    be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 600W - bulk -
    64,22 €

    Total: 815,78 €


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    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    SlipslideDC wrote: »
    Thanks all for the replies, but I have to ask again is there a favoritism towards Intel or is AMD just an inferior product? Have ye all tested AMD?

    Apologies to laneo. Kinda got his tread hijacked. Slipside Intel is the better chip and as far as any type of future proofing. it makes more sence using the 87/97 sockets,even on a budget because you have better upgrade options.

    But it is by no means favoritism. If AMD bring out a good budget chip that tops an Intel. That's what will be getting recommended.

    In your case the cost of the mobo and CPU combined that you selected, it just made more sense to go Intel. The build I done up Intel wise came out cheaper with better performance, cooling, and power saving allround. That is the only aim here. Try help someone get the Best value for Money. No loyalty to faceless companies.


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    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    Laneo. You should maybe aim for a z97 board. If you are getting the I5 6970k. The Gigabyte one for 80 odd will do.

    Think bloods mobo recommendation was with the non k chip in mind.


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    laneooo
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭laneooo


    SterlingArcher wrote: »
    Laneo. You should maybe aim for a z97 board. If you are getting the I5 6970k. The Gigabyte one for 80 odd will do.

    Think bloods mobo recommendation was with the non k chip in mind.
    I see i added Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3, Sockel 1150, ATX / HV1143IDDE / 78,74 €

    Is this build fine then?
    Is it ok for lets say upgrading a GPU in 1-2 years time..
    Can someone recommend a good case? cheers


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    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    Yeah what kind are you looking for and what is budget. 50 wil get you a good case. Antec one 43, the corsair carbide 300r at 60.

    100 will get you a nice nanoxia deep silence. Great case quiet cooling is awesome.

    And yes it will be grand for an upgrade.


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    #21
    SlipslideDC
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭SlipslideDC


    Once again I missed the extra pages.....apologies SterlingArcher for late repy!
    Thanks for the guidance on all so far, can you steer me in the last corner for a GPU (keep in mind the budget!) and if i need extra cooling or anything else as this is the weekend I launch my order.
    Thanks in advance.


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    BloodBath
    Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Slipslide you should really make your own thread, it's a bit confusing since you are asking questions in multiple threads belonging to other people.

    Laneoo, Corsairs CS series of PSU's seem great for the price. Gold rated and modular.


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    #23
    SlipslideDC
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭SlipslideDC


    Sorry about that Bloodbath, will open my own thread with the above question!


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    #24
    laneooo
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭laneooo


    Thanks bloodbath and SterlingArcher I appreciate it i'll check back in at the end of the month or start of oct just to double check before buying.


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