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Interesting Dublin pub names

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  • #102
    Gavin "shels"
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Hackman wrote: »
    I think the Stone Boat is a reference to a millrace on the river Poddle, which flows close to the area where the pub is. Can anyone here clarify this?

    Something like that according to my mate who lives up that neck of the woods.


  • #103
    General Zod
    Registered Users Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Gavin shels wrote: »
    That could work, have it in the Lower Deck.:pac:


    Or the Low Tide!


  • #104
    sagat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭sagat


    humberklog wrote: »
    The Headline (sound pub and happily re-opened) on Clanbrasil St. is simply named so because it was a slightly out of town beer shop for hacks (journos).

    Always wondered why it was called that, the Headline was an old haunt of mine 9 or 10 years ago great pub and sorely missed from across the seas.


  • #105
    Gavin "shels"
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Gavin shels wrote: »
    Yup, was known as "Happy Jacks" after the shooting back in Feb, it's called something different nowadays though.

    Passed it there an hour ago and Grumpy Jacks is now known as Shanahan's, all done up on the outside now aswell.


  • #106
    boneless
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭boneless


    Gavin shels wrote: »
    Passed it there an hour ago and Grumpy Jacks is now known as Shanahan's, all done up on the outside now aswell.

    Reminds me of how many changes of name the Green Lizard on St. Francis Street went through after the shooting there....


  • #107
    Gavin "shels"
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    boneless wrote: »
    Reminds me of how many changes of name the Green Lizard on St. Francis Street went through after the shooting there....

    Well in all fairness it always had a bad name before the shooting as it was a suspected IRA or INLA bar (can't remember which), sure that's why after the last shooting the owner done a runner supposely, as the guards, etc... started investigating that line of enquiry.


  • #108
    boneless
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    Gavin shels wrote: »
    Well in all fairness it always had a bad name before the shooting as it was a suspected IRA or INLA bar (can't remember which), sure that's why after the last shooting the owner done a runner supposely, as the guards, etc... started investigating that line of enquiry.

    That's true...

    I remember having pints in the old Cosy Bar before in became Grumpy Jacks :D.....


  • #109
    MYTOTE
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    Degsy wrote: »
    I'm originally from donaghmede.When i was a kid that whole area was countryside and campions was what seemed like a half-day hike through the cornfields from the end of my road.
    We'd get there and order lemonade and it was the countryside!
    When i got older we used to shoot over the fields that is now clare hall and grattan lodge.
    Did you not get the Red lemonade (savage smith)and tayto thrown in the window of the Ford Escort across the road from the Dollymount house?


  • #110
    gversey
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    The Lough inn....its in Loughlistown.


  • #111
    admiralofthefleet
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    Gavin shels wrote: »
    That could work, have it in the Lower Deck.:pac:

    indeed, liam would love that:D


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  • #112
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    MYTOTE wrote: »
    Did you not get the Red lemonade (savage smith)and tayto thrown in the window of the Ford Escort across the road from the Dollymount house?


    Nope,i was raised in Pebble Beach on a high stool!
    We didnt have an escort untill much later


  • #113
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    the morgue in templeogue

    it has little model of a tram outside on the clock

    The Morgue got it's name as back in the days when the trams went from
    Terenure to Blessington (1880s to 1930s) any bodies from accidents
    along the tracks in what was then a rural part of Dublin were kept
    in the actual inn (often overnight) before transportation back to the city
    morgue. The tram ran pretty close to the road near Templeogue village
    so accidents were rather common.


  • #114
    Gavin "shels"
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    indeed, liam would love that:D

    I can just imagine his face if 30 or so of us walked in.:D


  • #115
    DO'Carlo/Wex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭DO'Carlo/Wex


    New-enough poster but from my time up there, some odd pub names the history behind which I never knew are:

    The Gondola (also Dowlings) in Newcastle.

    Polly Hops just outside Newcastle (gone now, burnt down!).

    The Lock and Key (now re-named The Waterside) in Clondalkin.

    The Laurels also in Clon (the area around it maybe?).

    The Central (presumbly because it was? Since re-named twice, 1nce as Baroque, now as Village Inn)

    Finches in Neilstown.

    The Swallows in Clondalikin (the area around it maybe?)

    Anyone shed any light on the backgrounds to the names? Or any others in the Newcastle, Rathcoole, Saggart, Tallaght, Lucan & Clondalkin areas?


  • #116
    Twee.
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    The Lock and Key is beside a lough and a quay!


  • #117
    DO'Carlo/Wex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭DO'Carlo/Wex


    That maketh sense so. T'Was a fine pub then & is now under its' new name/mgmnt.
    Always thought it was LOCK AND KEY & not LOUGH AND QUAY!
    How silly!
    Any other background to any other local pubs in West County Dublin that I've mentioned/alluded to?


  • #118
    Twee.
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    No it IS the Lock and Key, but it's a "funny" play on words :)


  • #119
    humberklog
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    Surely it's in reference to the canal lock (for that is the way it is written) and the key (for that is the way that that peice of equipment is also written) to open the canal lock.
    The 'lock' being the section that rises/falls the canal. The 'key' being a large spindle that rises the bolts from the bed and allows the user to swing open the water gates.

    And in this case the Lock in question is the 9th lock on the Grand Canal.

    Twee where is there a lough in Clondalkin?


  • #120
    boneless
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭boneless


    humberklog wrote: »
    Surely it's in reference to the canal lock (for that is the way it is written) and the key (for that is the way that that peice of equipment is also written) to open the canal lock.
    The 'lock' being the section that rises/falls the canal. The 'key' being a large spindle that rises the bolts from the bed and allows the user to swing open the water gates.

    And in this case the Lock in question is the 9th lock on the Grand Canal.

    Twee where is there a lough in Clondalkin?

    I seem to remember that the Lock and Key was just called The Ninth Lock at one stage :confused:... or was it just how us postal workers referred to it?


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  • #121
    MediaTank
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    humberklog wrote: »
    Surely it's in reference to the canal lock (for that is the way it is written) and the key (for that is the way that that peice of equipment is also written) to open the canal lock.
    The 'lock' being the section that rises/falls the canal. The 'key' being a large spindle that rises the bolts from the bed and allows the user to swing open the water gates.

    Not to threadjack, but my understanding is that the key is just that - a tool to turn the spindle to open/close the sluice gates into the lock. There are no bolts AFAIK in a lock gate, it's the water pressure that keeps the gate closed. Equalizing the water level via the sluice gates allows the gates to be pushed open. The keys were kept by lock keepers whose house were beside the gates. Lot's of them on the city end of the Grand Canal for example at Baggot St., Leeson St. etc.


  • #122
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    MediaTank wrote: »
    Not to threadjack, but my understanding is that the key is just that - a tool to turn the spindle to open/close the sluice gates into the lock. There are no bolts AFAIK in a lock gate, it's the water pressure that keeps the gate closed. Equalizing the water level via the sluice gates allows the gates to be pushed open. The keys were kept by lock keepers whose house were beside the gates. Lot's of them on the city end of the Grand Canal for example at Baggot St., Leeson St. etc.


    The keys are usually kept on board a craft although gate keepers etrc would have one too. Indeed what you sat is correct. What I was terminf the key looks just like a rod used to engage the spindle. It looks just the same as those used for open water sluice valves that you'd see in the ground.
    The 'bolts' I refer to are more like iron rods, about 50mm wide and 5mm thick. I think there are three to each gate. These rods lower into the ground to lock the gate. When the spindle is engaged and turned the mechanism lift these rods and so frees the gate so the pressure can be applied to the swing arms. Then nice and slowly allow the lock to fill or empty. Return gates into position and then lower these rods (or bolts) back into position in order to lock the gates once again.


  • #123
    MediaTank
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    humberklog wrote: »
    The 'bolts' I refer to are more like iron rods, about 50mm wide and 5mm thick. I think there are three to each gate. These rods lower into the ground to lock the gate. When the spindle is engaged and turned the mechanism lift these rods and so frees the gate so the pressure can be applied to the swing arms. Then nice and slowly allow the lock to fill or empty. Return gates into position and then lower these rods (or bolts) back into position in order to lock the gates once again.

    Not quite. The lock gates are called mitre gates and the water pressure is sufficient to hold them in place. There are no rods. The sluices are called paddles and the lock key is called a windlass. Lot's of detail here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_lock


  • #124
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    MediaTank wrote: »
    Not quite. The lock gates are called mitre gates and the water pressure is sufficient to hold them in place. There are no rods. The sluices are called paddles and the lock key is called a windlass. Lot's of detail here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_lock

    Thanks for all that Mediatank. Good to put the names to the stuff as I've just been using my own termology whenever bringing barges around. Still have to get one off the Shannon in a week or two. I'll blind the others on board with my new names for thingies.


    But there are these rods that go down into the ground. When you turn the thinymebobs it raises them. I understand the the water pressure will hold gates in place. But it's the key that's needed to raise these bolts/rods. In order to stop tomfoolery.


  • #125
    MediaTank
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    humberklog wrote: »
    But there are these rods that go down into the ground. When you turn the thinymebobs it raises them. I understand the the water pressure will hold gates in place. But it's the key that's needed to raise these bolts/rods. In order to stop tomfoolery.

    Apparently the rods don't go into the ground they just raise or lower the paddles. I'll have a closer look after work - I walk along the Grand Canal on the way home.


  • #126
    humberklog
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    MediaTank wrote: »
    Apparently the rods don't go into the ground they just raise or lower the paddles. I'll have a closer look after work - I walk along the Grand Canal on the way home.

    I know that some do as I've a pic of them. I'm trying to think which section I was on when I took it though. It's on film but will try and find negs to upload. The only ones I've on disc are me being very drunk at the wheel.

    I think it was when we'd the barge in the city when the pics were taken of the mechanism but also further out at Robertstown perhaps.


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  • #127
    humberklog
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    I just had a check with my co-pilot and he says he hasn't a clue what I'm on about. The mechanism is only to lift the water flap at the bottom. I thought that there was also bars that went down (or up). Not so.


  • #128
    Spiritoftheseventies
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    To get back to subejct interesting pub names. The Sheds or Connollys on Clontarf road.


  • #129
    humberklog
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    bayviewclose wrote: »
    To get back to subejct interesting pub names. The Sheds or Connollys on Clontarf road.

    What makes it interesting Bayview?
    Do you know why it's called 'The Sheds'?


    The Sheds is in reference to the type of buildings that were located around that area when it was a fishing village. That's the area that Dublin Bay mussles and cockles would have been brought to shore from the mud flats.


  • #130
    Spiritoftheseventies
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    humberklog wrote: »
    What makes it interesting Bayview?
    Do you know why it's called 'The Sheds'?


    The Sheds is in reference to the type of buildings that were located around that area when it was a fishing village. That's the area that Dublin Bay mussles and cockles would have been brought to shore from the mud flats.
    very good. if anything else its got a good history.


  • #131
    venividivici
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭venividivici


    i think the new pub in tyrellstown has a great name, The Thirsty Bull..doubt there's any history to it but i just like it!!


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  • #132
    Degsy
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    humberklog wrote: »
    That's the area that Dublin Bay mussles and cockles would have been brought to shore from the mud flats.


    Not just shellfish..salmon were fished commercially from the mouth of the tolka there too.


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