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Indoor Saorview Aerial

  • 20-05-2012 10:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭


    Hi there.

    Sorry if this topic is done to death, I had a quick search of this forum but didn't find what I was looking for.

    I was wondering if any of you could recommend an indoor Aerial for recieving saorview. The space is a fourth floor apartment in Dublin City Centre with no outdoor space - so no option for an outdoor aerial.

    Would one of these suffice?

    Thanks for any tips.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    gaffmaster wrote: »
    Would one of these suffice?

    Maybe, depends on Saorview signal strength/quality in your apartment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Galia


    Any good UHF aerial will do. No such thing as a digital/saorview aerial.
    That one will do just fine .:)
    However a good attic aerial is recommended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,875 ✭✭✭zg3409


    You need to mount the antenna on the South Side of the apartment Facing Saandyford (3rock). It needs to be flat (horizontal) rather than vertical. If not have no Window facing South then you need to point it out any other Window and scan for a signal. The TV should stop at radio frequency 54 and show all the channels.

    Something like this is better value and will either work or not:
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Lloytron-A422-Indoor-Basic-Digital-HD-TV-Freeview-Radio-Antenna-Aerial-Black-New-/130601459464?pt=UK_ConElec_TVAerials_RL&hash=item1e68741f08

    Don't mind the hype on other makes. This one will work as good as any indoor unit.

    http://www.saorview.ie/make-the-switch/coverage-map/

    If a portable does not work consider hanging it outside the window, or using a small rooftop aerial, but mounted inside the apartment.

    Most apartment blacks should have some TV options. If your property company is only offering UPC/Sky, and they are not totally broke, consider asking them to offer Saorview and/or free satellite channels to all tenants. It's much simpler to set up yourself but if that does not work ask for an apartment wide system.

    If they are offering Sky, a Freesat box plugged into the Sky outlet may get you the UK channels free with no monthly bills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭superleedsdub


    Try one of these:

    http://www.4ife.ie/dvbt50.html

    I think D.I.D. are stocking them, they are more discreet than the aerials in the links in this thread and should do the trick:-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,875 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Try one of these:

    http://www.4ife.ie/dvbt50.html

    I think D.I.D. are stocking them, they are more discreet than the aerials in the links in this thread and should do the trick:-)

    I would be hesitant to recommend a type like this. For an aerial to work well it needs to be directional. In this way it boosts the signal in the direction of the nearest mast, and blocks signals (noise) from the wrong direction.

    Built in boosters/amplifiers in 99.9% of cases do not help. The amplify the signal and noise an do nothing to make the aerial more directional. They generally just add to the price, so retailers can justify charging more.

    Retailers like to sell pretty things, like this one, that look space aged, but may work far worse than a basic model half the price.

    If the aerial is not directional, then it is not doing the job it should do. It's like buying a telescope that is not directional!

    Ideally aerials should list things like front to back gain, beamwidth etc. Gain without including the amplifier etc.

    For an idea of how to properly compare aerials see here:
    http://www.aerialsandtv.com/tvaerialtests.html
    The results are interesting to put it mildly, we rely on our own data now and more or less ignore manufacturers figures

    It might not help the original poster but it gives a good idea of hype vs reality.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Try one of these:

    http://www.4ife.ie/dvbt50.html

    I think D.I.D. are stocking them, they are more discreet than the aerials in the links in this thread and should do the trick:-)

    It didn't work for this poster in his ground floor apt., might work in the OPs 4th floor apt but again will depend on Saorview signal strength/quality where the aerial is located.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭superleedsdub


    I was wondering if anyone else on boards had any experience with this aerial.
    I discovered it in my brothers house in Blessington and it works perfectly there. I borrowed his one as I was having problems with an old aerial I had bought a few years back, during the rugby world cup last year with bad signal etc...
    i`m in D15 and I believe the northside of the liffey is not well served by saorview.
    The results I got from the aerial were impressive, haven`t had any major probs with it myself (admittedly I don`t watch saorview that often) so bought one.

    So based I my experience I would recommend that aerial, however, it`s obvious from the thread the Cush linked to and zg`s info that this has not been the experience from other users and may not be suitable for the OP

    P.S. I bought mine for €14 so was worth experimenting with:-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,875 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Here is a good list of indoor aerials with recommendations:
    http://www.ricability-digitaltv.org.uk/pages/test-reports/indoor-aerials/recommendations.htm

    and here:
    http://www.ricability-digitaltv.org.uk/discontinued-products.asp

    Note the North Side of Dublin has a fairly strong signal. If you can see the Dublin mountains this is where the signal comes from.

    The signal is best in South East Dublin, Sandyford, and bad in very built up Dublin city centre. The worst spots are probably between christ church and the liffey and the ground rises then falls. The centre of Dublin is at sea level, but it rises again on the North side.

    It all depends on how far you are from the mast, and what is between you and the mast. In Sandyford a coathanger will work 100%, less so the further you travel.

    My main gripe is the amount charged, and the fact the most expensive ones often work less well than much cheaper models.

    It's a pity RTE's coverage checker does not show low, medium and high signal levels like some other countries coverage charts. I was even considering making such a map myself, as I have the software and data, but there arn't enough hours in the day.

    Here is a sort of a map showing signal strengths for Dublin. Red is strongest, then yellow, then green, then blue. Grey suggests no signal. It not exactly based on RTE's broadcasts but is similar:

    2390dublin.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    This is really annoying - I have a TV in my room with bunny ears, but I need to replace it now (or very soon). I don't have any cables in my room - does this mean that I'd either need an indoor ariel to get an electrician to route the wire from the roof to my room. I'm not sure if we have an ariel on the roof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,875 ✭✭✭zg3409


    blue note wrote: »
    This is really annoying - I have a TV in my room with bunny ears, but I need to replace it now (or very soon). I don't have any cables in my room - does this mean that I'd either need an indoor ariel to get an electrician to route the wire from the roof to my room. I'm not sure if we have an ariel on the roof.

    Hi Blue Note,

    What channels do you get at the moment at what quality are they? If you get TG4 at the moment then your current "rabbit ears" are probably OK. If not then you may need an outside aerial. If your TV is not Saorview compatable then on Otctober 24th 2012 it will stop working. Before then you need do something.

    This thread is for indoor aerials. If your indoor aerial can get TG4 the aerial itself should be fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭gaffmaster


    Thanks a million for all the replies. Very helpful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭lawhec


    That 4ife aerial looks like it's designed only for vertical polarised signals in mind, not the horizontal polarised transmissions for Saorview from Three Rock or Kippure in Dublin (though if Clermont Carn is strong, it might have a chance). More of a case of style over engineering and its gain almost certainly comes from the amp - there an argument that the built in amp in these aerials provide an active matching component to help transfer the received signal to the aerial lead better, but it's not likely to be worth much. That aerial looks like it's more designed for places where DTT transmissions are generally vertically polarised SFNs like in Switzerland or the Netherlands.

    If you have a rabbit ears aka bunny ears aerial, what you can do with it for Saorview reception is try and use it as a form of half-rhombic aerial. It's the simplest and easiest to do for horizontal polarised signals where the rabbit ears has both elements that can be turned almost 360 degrees on the horizontal plane (parallel to the ground) - it can be done with aerials where the elements can only be adjusted on its tilt and/or vertically polarised signals but it may be more of a hassle getting it fixed right. Take the aerial, extend both whip rod elements out 180 degrees from each other and then form a V shape with the two elements where the join of the V shape has an angle of between 60 and 120 degrees. Point the aerial where the tips of the rods are aimed at the transmitter, then experiment with the placing of the aerial and the gap between the two tips being widened and narrowed. Ideally both rods should be at least at least 9/10ths of wavelength long for the lowest frequency sought (for Three Rock & Kippure this will be approx 36cm. In the position the aerial should have an approximate figure of 8 reception pattern that will provide a little bit of gain and null of signals around 90 degrees from it. If space is a problem in some parts of a room (say a window sill), moving the aerial 180 degrees in the horizontal plane with the angle of the V formed by the rods can be closer to the transmitter than the tips of the rods if desired as in theory it shouldn't make much difference (though there might be some cases where it does, especially as we're talking indoor reception). Moving the tips of the rods in closer together with the angle of the V becoming more acute will slightly increase gain and directivity; I find a gap of 1/2 the wavelength of the lowest frequency wanted to work the best - making the gap much smaller than this will kill the gain and directivity especially below 1/4 the wavelength. Tipping the tips up slightly (so that it's no longer parallel to the ground) by up to say 20 or 30 degrees might also help in a few places. If you have an old pair of rabbit ears lying about, it's worth trying this first before splashing out on any money that'll probably work no better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    zg3409 wrote: »
    Hi Blue Note,

    What channels do you get at the moment at what quality are they? If you get TG4 at the moment then your current "rabbit ears" are probably OK. If not then you may need an outside aerial. If your TV is not Saorview compatable then on Otctober 24th 2012 it will stop working. Before then you need do something.

    This thread is for indoor aerials. If your indoor aerial can get TG4 the aerial itself should be fine.

    Thanks a million. I get the four Irish channels on the rabbit ears - TG4 is okish reception. A little fuzzy, but it's not difficult to make out or anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,875 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Then there is a good chance if you get a Saorview set top box or new Saorview compatable TV then you will get the new stations. Do something before the end of October, possibly by August, in case it does not work, so you can get a different aerial, ideally rooftop, if the old one does not work.

    Consider borrowing a Saorview TV or box from someone to test.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 jameseyf


    do you think this aerial would work indoors in dublin city in an area of good strength?

    http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/catalog_v2.cgi?type=product&id=28832

    cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    jameseyf wrote: »
    do you think this aerial would work indoors in dublin city in an area of good strength?

    http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/catalog_v2.cgi?type=product&id=28832

    If the signal strength/quality is good enough inside your house, where you locate the aerial, it should work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    jameseyf wrote: »
    do you think this aerial would work indoors in dublin city in an area of good strength?

    http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/catalog_v2.cgi?type=product&id=28832

    cheers

    Absolute crap. For a start it is vertically polarised and I believe Dublin signals are horizontal. Amplifiers on indoor aerials are a waste of space, money, and electricity. You cannot amplify what is not there, all that is amplified is the background noise. Amplifiers are meant to overcome a long cable loss.

    If you must use an indoor aerial get one that looks like an aerial.

    http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&cp=7&gs_id=2&xhr=t&q=telecam+tce2000&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4DVXE_enGB333GB333&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=572&ion=1&wrapid=tljp134014334521802&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=10790813410702251978&sa=X&ei=7PbgT9O1GYeN0AW93bjZDA&sqi=2&ved=0CHoQ8wIwAA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    I have tested lots and lots and lots of them, most are crap.

    The one I found the best is a Funke DSC 210-45T (now discontinued).

    The most important thing about indoor aerials is positioning them. They wont work on top of the TV! The need to be near a window to be stable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭eddiej


    Sorry to bump thread, but is an attic aerial the only indoor option for ratoath in meath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Just for general info im a few miles from the tower spur hill tower in cork , and im getting a great signal with a really old crappy, indoor (rabbits ears) aerial , it will barely pick up the analogue signal but it picks up saorview perfectly :D

    I would reccomend people get a box and just try out how good their signal is before commiting to getting a proper aerial installed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭PacMan


    I am receiving saorview perfectly on an indoor aerial. It is a "One for All" brand. My location is Cashel, in Tipperary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭eddiej


    Just turned rabbits ears on the horizontal (parralell to the ground) and bingo perfect saorview here in ratoath. Prob buy an attic aerial now for a tenner or so online dont think the rabbits ear falling over will be too populat but works fine for now. Just pointed aerial roughly south east thanks to those who replied to previous posters all helped


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Just for general info im a few miles from the tower spur hill tower in cork , and im getting a great signal with a really old crappy, indoor (rabbits ears) aerial , it will barely pick up the analogue signal but it picks up saorview perfectly

    The Saorview transmissions from Spur Hill are massively more powerful than analogue, same with Three Rock in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    PacMan wrote: »
    I am receiving saorview perfectly on an indoor aerial. It is a "One for All" brand. My location is Cashel, in Tipperary.

    Meaningless, it all depends where you are and which side of the building you are on. The "one for All" is about as crummy an aerial as you can get. Zero gain and little directivity. Any built in amplifier is a waste of time and electricity as it will only amplify local noise, not improve signal to noise ratio.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    winston_1 wrote: »
    Meaningless, it all depends where you are and which side of the building you are on. The "one for All" is about as crummy an aerial as you can get. Zero gain and little directivity. Any built in amplifier is a waste of time and electricity as it will only amplify local noise, not improve signal to noise ratio.

    You seem to like putting down cheap indoor aerials alot.

    Even though they work,as various posters have posted.

    Just like this one that cost a fiver.Picks up Saorview in Dublin with crystal clear pic and sound quality too.:D

    I bought 1 for myself and 2 more for family members in Sutton and also in Bray,and their aerials work perfetly too,at recieving perfect Saorview pics and sound.We all have Saorview approved TVs,so this aerial was all that was needed.

    Do me a favour,stop complaining all the time over the indoor aerials.Thats all you seem to do here.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    An indoor aerial will work if you are in a high signal area but they are not recommended, there have been many posters on here who have bought them and found that they couldn't get reception, some could get reception in one room of the house or even in one side of a room but couldn't get reception where the tv was. There was also posts such as the poster who got picture break up with an indoor aerial every time a bus passed his house.

    If you do intend to use an indoor aerial I would suggest that you save your money and use a coat hanger for reception as indoor aerials are not anything more than a coat hanger. A sweeping statement like ' Picks up Saorview in Dublin with crystal clear pic and sound quality too' can lead others to believe that an indoor aerial will work in all parts of Dublin, unfortunately this is not the case.

    It would be better to have a look at http://www.saorview.ie/make-the-switch/coverage-map/ and find out what the reception in the area where you live is like and then take the advise from saorview about the reception of their signal.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    The coverage checker is no use wrt telling you how strong the signal is likely to be in your area (only covered/not covered) & no use for weighing up the factors likely to affect indoor reception.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I got an amplified indoor aerial for €25 and could only get a signal with it in another room so brought it back.

    I got a €6.50 non amplified and its sitting beside the tv and picking up a signal.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Isn't this the 1st one you had? Doesn't look bad as far as indoor aerials go, would have some directionality. Maybe that was actually to its detriment in this case.

    I presume you have this one now? Suppose it's possible the less directional design would pick up more signal reflections arriving from all sides & while this would give a terrible picture with an analogue programme, it might actually benefit digital reception.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Extinction wrote: »
    An indoor aerial will work if you are in a high signal area but they are not recommended, there have been many posters on here who have bought them and found that they couldn't get reception, some could get reception in one room of the house or even in one side of a room but couldn't get reception where the tv was. There was also posts such as the poster who got picture break up with an indoor aerial every time a bus passed his house.

    If you do intend to use an indoor aerial I would suggest that you save your money and use a coat hanger for reception as indoor aerials are not anything more than a coat hanger. A sweeping statement like ' Picks up Saorview in Dublin with crystal clear pic and sound quality too' can lead others to believe that an indoor aerial will work in all parts of Dublin, unfortunately this is not the case.

    It would be better to have a look at http://www.saorview.ie/make-the-switch/coverage-map/ and find out what the reception in the area where you live is like and then take the advise from saorview about the reception of their signal.


    Well I must be the exception then,as it works in all parts of my house and my family members in Sutton and Bray have no problems at all with the aerials either.

    A fiver very well spent indeed.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭PacMan


    winston_1 wrote: »
    Meaningless, it all depends where you are and which side of the building you are on. The "one for All" is about as crummy an aerial as you can get. Zero gain and little directivity. Any built in amplifier is a waste of time and electricity as it will only amplify local noise, not improve signal to noise ratio.

    You describe my post as "Meaningless", why ?

    Crummy it may be, it actually works. And it worked first time.

    Cost to me = Zero... as I got it from my Brothers house.

    Waste of Time = No !!


    Why are you being so negative ? So Aggressive ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭SalteeDog


    For folks who are in apartments or otherwise where it is awkward or expensive to install a proper aerial or who aren't bothered about occasional quality blips then I'd certainly advise them to first try an indoor aerial with the following caveats:-
    - don't spend more than €15 euros on one. (Amplification is little benefit)
    - be prepared to have to experiment with it's orientation and location in order to get the best reception.
    - don't complain if it doesn't happen to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Do me a favour,stop complaining all the time over the indoor aerials.all you

    Ever since the dawn of television indoor aerials have been sold, some of them in markets being no more than a coax lead with an encapsulated capacitor on the end. They all rely on people being in a very strong signal area.
    The current crop seem to be either some form of flat plate in a plastic box with an amplifier, or else a loop sometimes with an amplifier. Both are pretty useless.

    The only reasonable indoor aerials are the Antiference Silver Sensor (difficult to find now) or the Telecam (not the amplified vertion).

    But the fact remains if indoor aerials worked in the majority of cases there would not be all that aluminum on roofs. Better still the broadcasters would not need those ugly towers, they would broadcast from an indoor aerial in the studio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    PacMan wrote: »
    You describe my post as "Meaningless", why ?

    Crummy it may be, it actually works. And it worked first time.

    Cost to me = Zero... as I got it from my Brothers house.

    Waste of Time = No !!


    Why are you being so negative ? So Aggressive ?

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    Because it happens to work where you are does not mean that it will work next door. That is the nature of UHF signals that have to pass through the fabric of a house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    The coverage checker is no use wrt telling you how strong the signal is likely to be in your area (only covered/not covered) & no use for weighing up the factors likely to affect indoor reception.

    Thats true, the coverage checker is handy though for people who don't want to listen to hearsay as posted in this thread, if Paddy147's family had lived a few miles from Sutton in Howth it would have been a different story and if the other in Bray had lived near Shankhill, a few miles from Bray, Paddy could have a different opinion, he'd probably be still there trying to figure out what was happening when a quick refence to the coverage checker would have told him there is no saorview signal available in various locations in both these areas. Blanket statements without reference to anything are causing confusion for many as you too no doubt know.
    One thing that both you and I can certainly be sure of though is that as time goes on and with variables such as athmospheric conditions etc thrown into the mix there is a good chance that Paddy could be sitting down to watch a match some night and be greeted with a message saying 'weak or no signal' Paddy will no doubt bring the tv back to the shop because there ain't anything wrong with his aerial set up now is there?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭PacMan


    winston_1 wrote: »
    Because it happens to work where you are does not mean that it will work next door. .

    Thats the point. I really dont want it to work next door.
    I want it to work in my house.
    It does.
    I'm happy.
    End of story.

    Stop being rude please.
    :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    PacMan wrote: »
    Thats the point. I really dont want it to work next door.
    I want it to work in my house.
    It does.
    I'm happy.
    End of story.

    Stop being rude please.
    :pac:



    More like...."blah blah blah,I dont give a damn because my aerial works and it shows that you are wrong".;):D

    Thats what Id say to him,but I know hes one of these types of people,who cant/wont accept anything that anyone else says,even when they post proof of it working perfectly.

    Typical.:(:rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Give it a rest Paddy, nobody is disputing the fact that yours or the other guy's aerials work for both of you at your respective locations. This has been pointed out already several times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭lawhec


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Thats what Id say to him,but I know hes one of these types of people,who cant/wont accept anything that anyone else says,even when they post proof of it working perfectly.
    The photos you've posted now in several posts across different threads don't show any proof. Just a picture of the box, the aerial on a window sill and a close-up shot of channel labels on a display. That receiver could be connected to an outdoor aerial, loft aerial or even a different indoor aerial and not the indoor aerial photographed in that group. No evidence of solid signal strength/quality readings with the indoor aerial connected and aimed for the best readings.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 307 ✭✭CodyJarrett


    We are renting (in Dublin, south inner city) and an attic or outdoor aerial was not an option, so bought an indoor aerial a few weeks back. It cost €70 and was told it was the best of the amplified ones - wouldn't pick up a thing. The TV kept telling me to connect an aerial even though it was.

    Brought it back and in the following few days, went through a bunch of indoor aerials, most of which were useless. In the end, we struck lucky with the following aerial as it picks up everything and crystal clear with no breaking up, even in the recent bad weather:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/One-9323-Dvb-T-Antenna-Design/dp/B003A6CHA2/ref=pd_cp_ce_0


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,483 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I got a Philex SLX Digitop 27769R for 19.95 in Powercity six months ago, works brilliantly. Looking on the Powercity website I see its in stock in all their stores.

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    In a strong signal area maybe a DIY aerial built from a coax cable is worth a dry.
    http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_Antennen


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭iba


    Hi,

    I use the one that is sold in Lidl from time to time. Only costs about €12 and works absolutly perfect for me - I pick-up the 6 or 7 channels, or whatever it is, clear as day. Im in Dublin 15.

    Regards

    Iba


  • Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Mearings


    PacMan wrote: »
    I am receiving saorview perfectly on an indoor aerial. It is a "One for All" brand. My location is Cashel, in Tipperary.

    In theory it doesn't work, in practice it does?

    <<Aerial Comments OneForAll SV-9210 flat indoor aerial propped against window cill. Window overloking Shannon facing S/SW. Kilduff transmitter 40 miles due south,Channel 52. Signal quality 100% Direct Link
    to this report www.mpeg4ireland.com/map.php?report=1138>>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Ronnie Raygun


    In theory it works if you have a strong enough signal. Nobody here said indoor aerials don't work, full stop.

    Why do people have such a hard time understanding this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭PacMan


    In theory it works if you have a strong enough signal. Nobody here said indoor aerials don't work, full stop.

    Why do people have such a hard time understanding this?

    Thats My point :D

    I cannot understand why some posters here are having a hard time understanding that Yes, I probally live in an area with a strong signal, and Yes that an indoor aerial works for me.

    It works for me, and I am happy with that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Ronnie Raygun


    PacMan wrote: »
    I cannot understand why some posters here are having a hard time understanding that Yes, I probally live in an area with a strong signal, and Yes that an indoor aerial works for me.

    The posters you refer to (I'd include myself) do not have a hard time understanding this, you missed the point (again).


  • Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Mearings


    We missed the point but received the signal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Ronnie Raygun


    And what is your point exactly? Kilduff is on a high site & is fairly high powered (25 kW), with nothing much between it & Athlone, or wherever you are.

    You're not exactly performing miracles.


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