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Shame on Tesco - Removing Irish Brands from its Stores

  • 24-04-2009 8:12pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 6


    Tesco Ireland are currently in the process of switching its source of international brands from Irish suppliers to UK suppliers to reduce retail prices in its Irish stores and basically bypass the Irish supplier and of course this is something that Tesco have every right to do.

    However, very little media reports have highlighted that the key issue is that Tesco are now removing Irish brands from its stores to make room for a bigger range of International brands.

    Tesco have already started removing Irish brands and Irish manufactured products from their stores in border areas such as Dundalk and Sligo, and I am reliably informed that a very large percentage of Irish brands and Irish manufactured products are to be removed from ALL Tesco stores over the coming weeks.

    The information I have is that Tesco new policy is: products currently ranged in Tesco Ireland, but not in Tesco UK (Irish brands specific to Ireland), are to be replaced by a suitable Tesco UK alternative product.


    As Tesco represent around 25% of the grocery market in Ireland, this new policy is a disaster for Irish food producers and I am sure this will lead to massive redundancies in the food industry in this country.

    I work with a large food producer in the Republic and I am very concerned about my job as are my colleagues. On the George Hook radio show yesterday, Dermot Breen – Corporate Affairs Director of Tesco Ireland clearly said that Tesco are not currently removing Irish brands from their stores and replacing them with International brands, however this is in fact happening now.

    I know for a fact that Tesco are working off profit margins in the Republic that far exceed their profit margins in the UK, so maybe Tesco need to look closer at reducing retail prices by reducing their profit margins instead of making Irish producers suffer further.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    What do people want?

    Its a simple fact, it costs more to produce and sell thing shere, so people moan about high prices and say how they are cheaper in a foreign country (the uk) , so they (Tesco) go elswhere for produce. It cant work both ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I think they might be under estimating the loyalty of Irish buyers to their own brands that they know and love.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    mfitzy wrote: »
    I think they might be under estimating the loyalty of Irish buyers to their own brands that they know and love.

    The people that all buy in British shops?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mogdog


    dont see the prob , if an irish firm cant supply goods cheaper then an english of a french one ( considering cost of transport etc ) . long and short of it is simple if the irish cant compete eg: price wise with its eu counterpart , where would u shop ?? or do you even look to see where goods are sourced from ?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Brenan wrote: »
    Tesco Ireland are currently in the process of switching its source of international brands from Irish suppliers to UK suppliers to reduce retail prices in its Irish stores and basically bypass the Irish supplier and of course this is something that Tesco have every right to do.

    However, very little media reports have highlighted that the key issue is that Tesco are now removing Irish brands from its stores to make room for a bigger range of International brands.

    Tesco have already started removing Irish brands and Irish manufactured products from their stores in border areas such as Dundalk and Sligo, and I am reliably informed that a very large percentage of Irish brands and Irish manufactured products are to be removed from ALL Tesco stores over the coming weeks.

    The information I have is that Tesco new policy is: products currently ranged in Tesco Ireland, but not in Tesco UK (Irish brands specific to Ireland), are to be replaced by a suitable Tesco UK alternative product.


    As Tesco represent around 25% of the grocery market in Ireland, this new policy is a disaster for Irish food producers and I am sure this will lead to massive redundancies in the food industry in this country.

    I work with a large food producer in the Republic and I am very concerned about my job as are my colleagues. On the George Hook radio show yesterday, Dermot Breen – Corporate Affairs Director of Tesco Ireland clearly said that Tesco are not currently removing Irish brands from their stores and replacing them with International brands, however this is in fact happening now.

    I know for a fact that Tesco are working off profit margins in the Republic that far exceed their profit margins in the UK, so maybe Tesco need to look closer at reducing retail prices by reducing their profit margins instead of making Irish producers suffer further.

    Can you site a single source for this, esp since Tesco actualy deny it.

    Also is this a relevant topic for this forum, since it would involve them lowering prices, better suited to Conspiricy theories maybe


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Can you site a single source for this, esp since Tesco actualy deny it.

    Also is this a relevant topic for this forum, since it would involve them lowering prices, better suited to Conspiricy theories maybe



    It was on newstalk last night.

    Tesco said it was complete bull , and pointed out they buy more irish food for export than France does.

    All Irish shops will still buy through Dublin , and that they are just moving the office that buys for intentional shops.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Moosh10


    Well i can confirm that the this comment is completely accurate. Tesco has no shame, yes they will provide cheaper goods by sourcing from outside ireland, but they actually could have provided cheaper goods all along by not taking such big margins. Instead they creamed money from both the irish manufacturers & irish consumers. Now they are spining the story to make it look like they are the good guy.
    Trust me a lot of well known brands are being removed from shelves and it will ultimately cost irish jobs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Moosh10 wrote: »
    Well i can confirm that the this comment is completely accurate. Tesco has no shame, yes they will provide cheaper goods by sourcing from outside ireland, but they actually could have provided cheaper goods all along by not taking such big margins. Instead they creamed money from both the irish manufacturers & irish consumers. Now they are spining the story to make it look like they are the good guy.
    Trust me a lot of well known brands are being removed from shelves and it will ultimately cost irish jobs!

    Ohh look, another first time poster who "knows"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭Fluffybums


    Crying out loud, bl**dy sick of this gouging whinging. People generally shop at Tescos because it is cheaper than the other supermarkets here, excluding Lidl and Aldi. If Tesco is gouging what the hell are the rest up to!
    The issue is that Tesco is a UK company.
    Well they are addressing the issue of percieved gouging by by-passing the Irish suppliers because they can lower prices by supplying the same stock as they do in their UK stores and guess what ........ that isn't good enough.
    Before complaining about the retailer, look at where the extra costs arise in Ireland.

    Oh and before someone mentions the £3bn profit they made last year, remember they are not a charity but a business and businesses make money and make profit. Most of that profit will have been made in their UK stores where they have to work in a competitive market, with the likes of Sainsbury, Waitrose, Morrisons, and Asda (part of the US WalMart group) as well as Lidl and Aldi.

    Personally if Tesco is cheaper and stocks everything I need I will shop there, can't afford not to. If you are worried about Irish jobs, don't shop at Tesco simple.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Bleh I buy pretty much everything in the market in Cork city so I can was my hands of this kind of nonsense.
    /careface


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mogdog


    fluffybums take a bow , oh as this is my 2md post does the sarcastic remark by keating apply to me ? , not knowing if im in the know or knot lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭ELP


    my OH works for an irish food manufacturing company and all of there jobs are in jeperody- tesco are switching from some of their brands to uk branded grocery products - companies are afraid to speak out about the cuts in case all of their lines get de-listed. Before christmas tesco switched from buying off of irish distributors and went straight to the uk manufacturer, this does make commericial sense- i.e. you can buy the same branded product cheaper elsewhere by cutting out the middleman but now this week they have crossed the line - they are blatently switching from irish manufactured produts (companies that employ and keep employment in this country) in favour of UK branded products.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 370 ✭✭ccosgrave


    Damn, looks like I'll be switching grocery shops then :( All my Tesco club points going to waste!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Brenan


    The problem is that it looks like Tesco have started to make a sweeping move against all Irish Food brands this week. They have already started removing a huge number of Irish produced products from a range of different Irish manufacturers from its border stores such as Dundalk, Sligo, etc. and I am told these plans are to be rolled out to the whole country over the next few weeks.

    I don’t accept that all Irish manufacturers are uncompetitive versus their UK counterparts. It is true that it can cost more to produce in Ireland as we are a small country and Irish manufacturers that produce for the Irish market don’t have the economies of scale that a UK producer would have and of course the Sterling/Euro exchange rate versus previous years hasn’t helped the cause of Irish manufacturers competing against UK producers

    I accept that getting cheaper retail prices is very important, but should this be at the expense of Irish brands/Irish Manufacturing and Irish Jobs. It will be very sad day if this move from Tesco leads to further manufacturing moving out of Ireland at the very time we need it most. I do hope that Irish consumers put pressure on Tesco to retain the range of Irish brands.

    Yes, Tesco have denied all of this in the Media, but believe me, it is happening.

    Jhegerty, Tesco might buy more Irish food for export than France does. But what price are they buying if for?? They have used their position in the market to pressurise small Irish producers to reduce their margins down to near nothing and now this extra blow will put a lot of Irish companies out of business

    Tesco ARE removing Irish brands from their stores. By the way, Keating, this is my first post as it’s the first time I have felt strongly enough about something to get on and write a post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,121 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I bet they're not removing Irish brands from their other European stores e.g. Kerrygold.

    Until there's a source from the OP, it's poppycock.


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭ELP


    the last price survey carried out by the national consumer aency found that "On a basket of 83 common items, the survey shows that Dunnes Stores is the cheapest at €292.48. Superquinn is within a cent of Dunnes Stores at €292.49. Tesco is now the most expensive multiple with the basket of 83 items costing €296.08"
    This survey was carried out AFTER tesco cut out the middle-man irish distributor. Dunnes still use the expensive irish middle man and managed to be cheaper than tesco who are switching suppliers in order to get the price down for the consumer! I accept that they are not a charity and are thereto m ake money but its about time that they quit saying they are swith suppliers in order to lower prices for the consumer. They don't care about the consumer only the shareholder. Also in that survey, the NCA foun that"Prices for separate baskets from Tesco, Dunnes and Superquinn all recorded an increase in the period from December 2007 to January 2009. Tesco recorded the largest increase, Superquinn the smallest" - this at a time when tesco were the only supermarket bypassing the irish middleman and sourcing directlyfrom the UK where possible on price issues - I'll continue shopping in Dunnes - as they say "The difference is we're Irish"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,121 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    ELP wrote: »
    the last price survey carried out by the national consumer aency found that "On a basket of 83 common items, the survey shows that Dunnes Stores is the cheapest at €292.48. Superquinn is within a cent of Dunnes Stores at €292.49. Tesco is now the most expensive multiple with the basket of 83 items costing €296.08"
    This survey was carried out AFTER tesco cut out the middle-man irish distributor. Dunnes still use the expensive irish middle man and managed to be cheaper than tesco who are switching suppliers in order to get the price down for the consumer! I accept that they are not a charity and are thereto m ake money but its about time that they quit saying they are swith suppliers in order to lower prices for the consumer. They don't care about the consumer only the shareholder. Also in that survey, the NCA foun that"Prices for separate baskets from Tesco, Dunnes and Superquinn all recorded an increase in the period from December 2007 to January 2009. Tesco recorded the largest increase, Superquinn the smallest" - this at a time when tesco were the only supermarket bypassing the irish middleman and sourcing directlyfrom the UK where possible on price issues - I'll continue shopping in Dunnes - as they say "The difference is we're Irish"

    I think they all care about the shareholders and not the consumer. Is there a profit-making corporation on the planet that doesn't follow this line? It would be interesting to know how many Irish shareholders Tesco has. I would say that the number is far in excess of Dunnes, Superquinn, Musgrave and all of its franchises.

    I understood that Tesco only recently notified the media that they were sourcing "international" brands from the UK, so when was the survey carried out?

    I don't mind Tesco being in Ireland, it forces the others to compete. If Ireland hadn't started out as a high profit market, Tesco would never have ventured into the country. I think that the reason for their steering clear of the German market, for example, is that stuff there is a hell of a lot cheaper than here or the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    Brenan wrote: »
    ... I am reliably informed...

    ...Dermot Breen – Corporate Affairs Director of Tesco Ireland clearly said that Tesco are not currently removing Irish brands from their stores and replacing them with International brands, however this is in fact happening now....

    ...I know for a fact that Tesco.....

    So you know things for a fact - yet no back up, and Dermot Breen is on the radio telling fibs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭ELP


    Price survey was carried out last February - The suday business post reported on tesco switching to UK suppliers last december.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    I think they all care about the shareholders and not the consumer. Is there a profit-making corporation on the planet that doesn't follow this line?

    your correct in that, the difference between tesco and the rest of the irish supermarkets is the sheer size of tesco, they are HUGE and the power they wield over their suppliers is immense.

    the fact that they now may be removing irish products from their shelves doesnt suprise me, its opportunistic and typical of tesco.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    ELP wrote: »
    I'll continue shopping in Dunnes - as they say "The difference is we're Irish"

    The Difference is
    Dunnes is a privately owned company owned in general by one extended family. We don't know how much profit they make, or their turnover.
    I think it would be fair to say they have a history of being tough with their Irish suppliers/ distributors.
    Tesco is a PLC, so you could be a part owner of them, doesn't matter what country you're from/ nationality etc., and their accounts are published (albeit they don't give breakdowns for Irish operations)
    This waving the Irish banner/ shamrock etc is nonsense, unless you you feel that supporting the Dunne family business is patriotic.
    (PS - do Dunnes still have Spanish interests?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Where is the wonderful Mary Coughlan when we need her :D:D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭ELP


    too busy licking her wounds - john mcguinness slated her earlier this evening on the late late!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,121 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Shelflife wrote: »
    I think they all care about the shareholders and not the consumer. Is there a profit-making corporation on the planet that doesn't follow this line?

    your correct in that, the difference between tesco and the rest of the irish supermarkets is the sheer size of tesco, they are HUGE and the power they wield over their suppliers is immense.

    the fact that they now may be removing irish products from their shelves doesnt suprise me, its opportunistic and typical of tesco.

    These days I prefer Dunnes, but if I were in Tesco and noticed that they were not selling a particular item, I would contact them and ask them to get it. So far, they've always come up with the goods.

    I think that if anyone notices that something is no longer stocked, then they should ask Tesco to get it or else! Have a David and Goliath moment:D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    Work in Tesco, haven't seen any Irish produced product discontinued / replaced.

    But when a new Tesco branded product comes in and undercuts the branded product you can bet your bottom dollar it flies off the shelves.

    "Tesco have already started removing Irish brands and Irish manufactured products from their stores in border areas such as Dundalk and Sligo"

    Not surprised, seems nobody was buying them anyway. Only have to look on the bargain alert thread to see the items being bought in the north.

    Off topic but....But are all those Irish sounding 'brands' in Lidl and Aldi actually made / sourced in the republic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Does anyone else remember Tesco pledging to maintain the percentage of goods it sells supplied by Irish suppliers ? At the time it was 42%.
    Nobody else remembers that? Funnily enough Tesco were relying on your short term memory.
    Wasn't Corrie great tonight? Poor Jade Goody, wasn't she a saint? Aren't we all looking forward to a great performance by the British Lions? Let's all play Sun Bingo tommorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Brenan


    wmpdd3, my point is that Tesco are starting to remove a substantial number of Irish brands and Irish manufactured products from their stores, they are already doing this in their border stores (this is fact, any Irish supplier will tell you this), they are not as you say removing products that nobody was buying anyway, they are removing volume Irish sellers and replacing with volume UK sellers.

    I am very surprised that you dont know this considering you work with Tesco??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Brenan wrote: »
    The problem is that it looks like Tesco have started to make a sweeping move against all Irish Food brands this week. They have already started removing a huge number of Irish produced products from a range of different Irish manufacturers from its border stores such as Dundalk, Sligo, etc. and I am told these plans are to be rolled out to the whole country over the next few weeks.

    I don’t accept that all Irish manufacturers are uncompetitive versus their UK counterparts. It is true that it can cost more to produce in Ireland as we are a small country and Irish manufacturers that produce for the Irish market don’t have the economies of scale that a UK producer would have and of course the Sterling/Euro exchange rate versus previous years hasn’t helped the cause of Irish manufacturers competing against UK producers

    I accept that getting cheaper retail prices is very important, but should this be at the expense of Irish brands/Irish Manufacturing and Irish Jobs. It will be very sad day if this move from Tesco leads to further manufacturing moving out of Ireland at the very time we need it most. I do hope that Irish consumers put pressure on Tesco to retain the range of Irish brands.

    Yes, Tesco have denied all of this in the Media, but believe me, it is happening.

    Jhegerty, Tesco might buy more Irish food for export than France does. But what price are they buying if for?? They have used their position in the market to pressurise small Irish producers to reduce their margins down to near nothing and now this extra blow will put a lot of Irish companies out of business

    Tesco ARE removing Irish brands from their stores. By the way, Keating, this is my first post as it’s the first time I have felt strongly enough about something to get on and write a post



    Why exactly do you think Tesco have some obligation to Irish producers? They are a British Company, if anything they should be doing all they can to support British jobs.

    Should Dunnes in the North and Spain only stock Britsih/Spanish goods?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,279 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Brenan wrote: »
    wmpdd3, my point is that Tesco are starting to remove a substantial number of Irish brands and Irish manufactured products from their stores, they are already doing this in their border stores (this is fact, any Irish supplier will tell you this), they are not as you say removing products that nobody was buying anyway, they are removing volume Irish sellers and replacing with volume UK sellers.

    I am very surprised that you dont know this considering you work with Tesco??

    Until somebody here on this thread can actually name ANY of the Irish products being removed from sale in Tesco, this is all a load of heresay and scaremongering.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Churu


    I would be sorry if they discontinue some products which have a fair price....

    Now with regards to other products. I would be very happy if they do it. Specially with potatoes. I am really sick of paying €4 to get a bag full of rotten potatoes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭darc


    The OP is rubbish. The main problem is people prefer to believe poor journalism rather than find out the exact story.

    Newstalk were commenting on a Tesco press release.

    The press release (it was an old one from last October regurgitated to make a headline) basically said that Tesco were going to bypass irish DISTRIBUTORS of UK manufactured products and supply their stores with this product directly from their main warehousing in the UK.

    The statement also said quite clearly that this move would not affect ANY irish produced goods and that they remain commited to the millions they spend of Irish products.


    Simple terms - distributors are not passing on sterling reductions to tesco, so tesco has told them to eff off and they'll use thier own trucks to bring the stuff from the UK and bring prices down.

    Here's the relevant article -

    "Tesco believes that a move to a global buying platform for branded goods - rather than buying from Irish distributors and agents - will help reduce the prices it pays for those products.

    Sources at Tesco said the system currently used by the retailer was inefficient and exposed it to currency fluctuations.

    The move will give the firm more control over its supply chain and currency risks, and allow it to capitalise on its international buying power.

    The sources said the restructuring would be done on a phased basis in the coming months and stressed that the move would affect distributors, not Irish suppliers or producers."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Brenan wrote: »
    wmpdd3, my point is that Tesco are starting to remove a substantial number of Irish brands and Irish manufactured products from their stores, they are already doing this in their border stores (this is fact, any Irish supplier will tell you this), they are not as you say removing products that nobody was buying anyway, they are removing volume Irish sellers and replacing with volume UK sellers.

    I am very surprised that you dont know this considering you work with Tesco??

    You keep make claims, but offer no proof.

    Please cite one single product that has been removed from the shelves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Brenan


    I can tell you that this is not rubbish, if you live near a border Tesco store you will see for yourself (IRISH BRANDS ARE BEING REMOVED FROM TESCO SHELVES) and I am very certain that Tesco are planning to remove Irish brands from ALL its stores over the next weeks.

    darc, I think you miss my point, I do not disagree with Tesco bypassing the Irish distributor of UK or International maufactured products if it means that the retail prices on these products are reduced.

    My point is, I disagree with Tesco removing Irish brands from its shelves to make room for a larger selection of UK/International brands.

    Yes, Tesco did say quite clearly on Newtalk on Thursday that this move away from Irish distributors of UK/International brands would not affect ANY irish produced goods and that they remain commited to the millions they spend of Irish products, but I am telling you that this statement from Tesco was not truthful.

    The reason why I wrote the post in the first place is precisely because Tesco are feeding the media information that suggestes Irish Manfactured products will not be affected by this move and the media have run with this story.

    I can guarantee you Tesco are planning on removing hundreds and Irish produced products from its stores over the coming weeks and that is a huge concern for me and the thousands of other Irish jobs that are dependant on supplying Tesco (the biggest food retailer in Ireland) with Irish brands that Irish people have been loyal to for years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Brenan wrote: »
    By the way, Keating, this is my first post as it’s the first time I have felt strongly enough about something to get on and write a post

    A First time poster, who only join the board before he/she a scaremongering story and offers no facts or proofs to story, forgive me for being sceptical.

    And one who claims a vested interest in the matter...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,279 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Brenan wrote: »
    I can tell you that this is not rubbish, if you live near a border Tesco store you will see for yourself (IRISH BRANDS ARE BEING REMOVED FROM TESCO SHELVES) and I am very certain that Tesco are planning to remove Irish brands from ALL its stores over the next weeks.

    I ask again seeing as you know, can you name ANY Irish brand being removed from the shelves in certain Tescos?
    Still all heresay and no proof.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,121 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    ongarite wrote: »
    I ask again seeing as you know, can you name ANY Irish brand being removed from the shelves in certain Tescos?
    Still all heresay and no proof.

    Yep, Brenan must surely be able to name at least one item if he or she is that incensed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭darc


    surely the affected brands / companies would be complaining to every media source in the country if this was true - they'd have nothing to lose.

    But I hear silence.

    Also, If if if this was true the Irish consumers would vote with their feet as we are one of the highest per capita purchasers of branded goods in the world! - Even Lidl & Aldi have branded goods in their Irish stores whereas in Germany they are 100% own brand.

    I specifically make sure most of my shopping is Irish produced unless the price difference is very substantial.

    BTW - its surprising what "irish" products are not made in Ireland!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,121 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    darc wrote: »
    BTW - its surprising what "irish" products are not made in Ireland!!

    and then there's "Cuisine de France" ...................:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    darc wrote: »
    BTW - its surprising what "irish" products are not made in Ireland!!

    I noticed before that a few "IRISH" cheese brands seems to have UK/NL or BE factory codes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Moosh10


    I think Fluffybums hit the nail on the head, people would understand the real effect of what Tesco are doing should just not shop there!

    Problem is not many people are getting the real story.

    By the way Keating- that's why I'm posting. The media aren't covering it & its the first time I've ever seen a thread that has reported on it accurately.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,279 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Yawn...

    Another newly registered user alleging this action by Tesco but YET AGAIN failing to back it up with ANY proof what so ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭Cheese Princess


    I wonder how many of you who are so concerned about the loss of Irish jobs actually do your grocery shopping in the North


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭darc


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    and then there's "Cuisine de France" ...................:pac:

    The largest par-baked bread brand in France & UK - Made in Dublin!!! Operated by an Irish company & originally started & invented by two young lads!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Moosh10 wrote: »
    I think Fluffybums hit the nail on the head, people would understand the real effect of what Tesco are doing should just not shop there!

    Problem is not many people are getting the real story.

    By the way Keating- that's why I'm posting. The media aren't covering it & its the first time I've ever seen a thread that has reported on it accurately.

    Who said it was accurate, it's just unfound/unproved claims by someone with a stated vested interest and also who registered on boards.ie just before they posted, just like you did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    darc wrote: »
    The largest par-baked bread brand in France & UK - Made in Dublin!!! Operated by an Irish company & originally started & invented by two young lads!!


    Great bread though.

    I think it would be a huge own goal for Tesco to do what the OP claims it is doing.

    Anyway, Dunnes and Superquinn have their plus points. Tesco doesn't have all the answers (fresh veg for example).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭jenzz


    Ok Joe soap Tesco shopper here gonna throw a tuppence worth in. Local tesco in south Dublin direction has been "missing" a lot of brands since christmas. Im not a fussy shopper ie they dont have it ill choose something else. So thats what I did just substituted for other things. That was until my parents who are extreemly fussy shoppers ie. Set in their ways, retired couple who would only buy a certain brand , started giving out the other day about it. Mum has been asking in her branch & they just said oh sorry little old lady product is out of stock. She took it further & started ringing the suppliers & 4 out of her 8 missing brand suppliers told her they are in dispute with the retailer so they are not shipping their goods to them. They were also able to tell her to go to her local Dunnes stores & she could get them there. so could be linked or could be not linked but either way certain brands are " missing " from tesco & going solely to Dunnes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,121 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I wonder how many of you who are so concerned about the loss of Irish jobs actually do your grocery shopping in the North

    I wonder how "patriotic" the importers and distributors are. I wonder what profit margins they operate on before the goods get to the retailer. I wonder whether they can afford to reduce their margins, or whether they can arrange better details with foreign suppliers, so that the Irish retailer is on a more level playing-field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Brenan wrote: »
    I can tell you that this is not rubbish, if you live near a border Tesco store you will see for yourself (IRISH BRANDS ARE BEING REMOVED FROM TESCO SHELVES) .

    You Started this thread two days ago and have failed to cite even a single product that has been removed from any tesco outlet, border region or otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    jenzz wrote: »
    Ok Joe soap Tesco shopper here gonna throw a tuppence worth in. Local tesco in south Dublin direction has been "missing" a lot of brands since christmas. Im not a fussy shopper ie they dont have it ill choose something else. So thats what I did just substituted for other things. That was until my parents who are extreemly fussy shoppers ie. Set in their ways, retired couple who would only buy a certain brand , started giving out the other day about it. Mum has been asking in her branch & they just said oh sorry little old lady product is out of stock. She took it further & started ringing the suppliers & 4 out of her 8 missing brand suppliers told her they are in dispute with the retailer so they are not shipping their goods to them. They were also able to tell her to go to her local Dunnes stores & she could get them there. so could be linked or could be not linked but either way certain brands are " missing " from tesco & going solely to Dunnes.

    Maybe in the same way that the Irish Time is missing from Dunnes for the past few months...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Moosh10


    Not sure how anyone can start listing things as its only starting to happen - the real effects will be realised over the next few weeks.

    Key thing is to undersand the power of Tesco in Ireland. If they remove an Irish brand to make room for UK stock the manufacturer obviously has then has less demand.

    This 1n turn affects their capacity to produce. For example if they normally make 1000 & sell 1000, Tesco who are over 25% of market remove them. Suddenly they are not working to capacity & may be forced to pull certain iems as it just doesn't make sense to produce them whilst working under capacity.

    This is I think why this thread was started, to let people know the ball has startd rolling...............


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