EU 11

zepp · 25-06-2008 3:34pm #1

We over on http://www.irishelection.com/ have been covering the fallout of the Lisbon Treaty and seeing what has been said b various people. Janez Jansa current EU president and prime Minister of Solvenia has said that the EU lacks an identity and could do with something unifying like a soccer team. So who would be on your EU eleven.

Mine

Casillas Spain
Lahm (germany) Puyol (Spain) Terry(England) Evra (France)

Fabragras (Spain) Gattaso(Italy) Gerard (England)

Ronaldo(Portugal) Sneijder(Holland)
Ibrahimovic(Sweden)

Does not need to be based on Euro 2008 but have to be in EU.
Also would you support an EU team. It works for the Ryder Cup.

Guess the idea would be to play in an intercontinental tournament.
For fun you can pick an African and South American 11.

Also who would win.

Tusky · 25-06-2008 3:35pm

I have just come here to say that Ibrahimovic is certainly not the best striker in the EU. Hes not even in the top 5 in my opinion!

Death or Glory · 25-06-2008 3:37pm

Casper Ankergran

Frazer Richardson
Lubo Michalik
Paul Huntington
Bradley Johnson

David Prutton
Johnny Howson
Jonathan Douglas
Neil Kilkenny

Jermaine Beckford
Tresor Kandol

Mitch Connor · 25-06-2008 3:42pm

Casilas

Lahm
Ferdinand
Canavaro
Evra

Xavi
Fabregas
Silva
Ronaldo

Torres
van Nistlerooy

Also, I don't think it would work.

The ryder cup works because it is an invidual sport, put into a team environment, and it is spread over days of play. An EU team could only compete in exhibition matches which wouldn't mean anything.

Pepe LeFrits · 25-06-2008 4:07pm

Buffon
Evra
Cannavaro
Chiellini
Sagna
Senna
Fabregas
Sneijder
Ronaldo
Gerrard
Torres

CantGetNoSleep · 25-06-2008 4:27pm

It would give us a great opportunity to hammer the chinks, dont think anyone would ever tire at that

Eu v South America would be a cracking match though, and Africa would be good too

titan18 · 25-06-2008 4:27pm

Theres a competition called the Meridian Cup.Its a match between a European under 18 team against the African under 18s

gixerfixer · 25-06-2008 4:29pm

Castilles
Lahm
Carvalio
Cannavaro
Grosso
Xavi
Gerrard
Ballack
C.Ronaldo
Torres
RVN

bUILDERtHEbOB · 25-06-2008 4:39pm

Cassillas
Lahm, Carvalho, Cannavaro, Evra
Xavi, Gattuso
Gerrard, Fabragas, Sneijder
Torres

dc69 · 25-06-2008 4:47pm

Buffon

-Lahm----Carvalho----Cannavaro---Evra

Xavi---Fabregas

Gerrard

Ronaldo---

Torres--Van Nistelrooy

How Gatusso or Ibrahimovich could be in any eu 11 is ridicuous.

Bubs101 · 25-06-2008 5:08pm

Buffon

Zambrotta----Terry/Ferdinand----Carvalho---Chivu

Pirlo--Ballack---Xavi

C. Ronaldo

Sneijder

Torres

thusspakeblixa · 25-06-2008 5:10pm

Casillas

Lahm----Cannavaro

Ferdinand

Evra
Ronaldo----Xavi

Ballack

Sneijder

Torres

Benzema

tdv · 25-06-2008 5:16pm

.......................Buffon......................

Lahm............Nesta.....Vidic...........Evra

..............Xavi.............Iniesta..........

J.Navas...................................Capel

..............Villa..............Benzema....

leninbenjamin · 25-06-2008 5:21pm

Why are people putting Lahm on the right? he's a left back.

Seaneh · 25-06-2008 5:28pm

He's both footed.

leninbenjamin · 25-06-2008 5:33pm

Seaneh wrote: »

He's both footed.

no, he's right footed. and he's operates a lot better on the left than he does the right.

menoscemo · 25-06-2008 5:34pm

zepp wrote: »

Does not need to be based on Euro 2008 but have to be in EU.
Also would you support an EU team. It works for the Ryder Cup.

Just a minor bone of contention there. The Ryder cup is not an EU team, it is a European team. So is our football team going to be an exclusively EU one (i.e. no Russians, Serbs, Croats, norweguans etc) or a European one?

ShoulderChip · 25-06-2008 5:42pm

leninbenjamin wrote: »

no, he's right footed. and he's operates a lot better on the left than he does the right.

no he operates a lot better on right back, his preferred position.

why would he prefer a position if he is worse at it?

gixerfixer · 25-06-2008 5:42pm

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Why are people putting Lahm on the right? he's a left back.

Check out the offical Euro site.He's listed as both sided:)

Mr.Nice Guy · 25-06-2008 5:47pm

zepp wrote:

Janez Jansa current EU president and prime Minister of Solvenia has said that the EU lacks an identity and could do with something unifying like a soccer team.

For f*ck's sake. What is it with these guys? I would never support an 'EU' team. So sick of these sly, pathetic attempts to engineer an identity that simply doesn't exist.

zepp · 25-06-2008 5:52pm

menoscemo wrote: »

Just a minor bone of contention there. The Ryder cup is not an EU team, it is a European team. So is our football team going to be an exclusively EU one (i.e. no Russians, Serbs, Croats, norweguans etc) or a European one?

It would be just an EU team. The ryder cup was more an example of people supporting an non-national team. Also how many non-EU players have played in the Ryder cup?

menoscemo · 25-06-2008 6:32pm

zepp wrote: »

It would be just an EU team. The ryder cup was more an example of people supporting an non-national team. Also how many non-EU players have played in the Ryder cup?

All the spanish players who played pre 1986

dc69 · 25-06-2008 7:19pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

For f*ck's sake. What is it with these guys? I would never support an 'EU' team. So sick of these sly, pathetic attempts to engineer an identity that simply doesn't exist.

At least it would be a team that represents us,we could cheer for and would no doubt make **** of any other team:)

Dont be at yourself · 26-06-2008 3:46am

Terry isn't even the best centre-back at Chelsea.

Xavi6 · 26-06-2008 4:29am

Lol at the people picking Gattuso. He's finished, and is crap imo. Good for a yellow card and nothing else.

Casillas

Richards

Puyol

Carvalho

Lahm

Fabregas

Xavi

Sneijder

Ronaldo

Ribery

Torres

Subs:

Buffon
Ballack
Terry
Gerrard
Chivu
M. Petrov
Podolski
Van Nistelrooy

tolosenc · 26-06-2008 4:46am

Ronaldinho's a naturalised Spaniard. Does he count? EU citizen and all...

hotspur · 26-06-2008 9:33am

Buffon

Zambrotta

Carvalho

Nesta

Clichy

Ronaldo

Fabregas

Sneijder

Robben

Berbatov

Torres

whatawaster · 26-06-2008 9:52am

Casillas

Lahm

Carvalho

Cannevaro

Evra

De Rossi

Fabregas

Ronaldo

Gerrard

Benzema

Torres

Tough to choose between Benzema and Ribery.

PHB · 26-06-2008 9:57am

Casillas

-Lahm--Ferdinand--Carvalho--Evra-
-Ronaldo-Fabregas-?????--???????-

Torres---Van Nist

Personally I think the rest of the team is self-evident, even though I could see some dispute over Casillas and Van Nist, but you can't deny their performances over the last two years. Casillas was Madrid's player of the season this year like!

As for center midfield, I was trying to think of some DMCs, Senna isn't really Spanish anymore than Ronaldinho is, in which case, both questions are answered.

So i'm going for Xavi, wee bit offensive but whatcha going to do

Best DMC in the EU I'd say last year was Hargreaves.

For left wing, Robben I guess, he is just amazing, although never fit.

Mr Alan · 26-06-2008 10:03am

PHB wrote: »

Casillas was Madrid's player of the season this year loike!

fixed that for you

and i'm gonna pretend you didnt pick Hargreaves over Mascherano!:eek:

whatawaster · 26-06-2008 10:10am

Mr Alan wrote: »

and i'm gonna pretend you didnt pick Hargreaves over Mascherano!:eek:

Argentina is hardly in the EU. I just can't believe anyone wouldn't pick Gerrard.

redspider · 26-06-2008 10:14am

> So who would be on your EU eleven.

But shouldnt it be an EU-27, with perhaps 11 on the pitch at any one time with the 16 subs rotating in and out and being guaranteed to play 10 mins out of every 15? ;-) Or just change the rules and let all 27 play?

So how about as an additional exercise listing the best player from each country out of all the EU-27, and not worry about whether they gel into a team or not:

IE: ?
DE: Ballack
ES: Torres
FR: ?
IT: Pirlo
NL: Van Der Sar ?
SE: Larsson
PT: Aveiro (legal surnames only!)
UK:
etc

Anyone know who is the best player from Lithuania?

Mr Alan · 26-06-2008 10:18am

whatawaster wrote: »

Argentina is hardly in the EU. I just can't believe anyone wouldn't pick Gerrard.

oops, my bad!

Bubs101 · 26-06-2008 10:22am

redspider wrote: »

>

Anyone know who is the best player from Lithuania?

They used to have a prety handy keeper but he may have retired by now

Pepe LeFrits · 26-06-2008 11:19am

PHB wrote: »

Casillas
-Lahm--Ferdinand--Carvalho--Evra-
-Ronaldo-Fabregas-?????--???????-
Torres---Van Nist

Personally I think the rest of the team is self-evident, even though I could see some dispute over Casillas and Van Nist, but you can't deny their performances over the last two years. Casillas was Madrid's player of the season this year like!

As for center midfield, I was trying to think of some DMCs, Senna isn't really Spanish anymore than Ronaldinho is, in which case, both questions are answered.

So i'm going for Xavi, wee bit offensive but whatcha going to do Best DMC in the EU I'd say last year was Hargreaves.

For left wing, Robben I guess, he is just amazing, although never fit.

Senna plays for Spain, Ronaldinho plays for Brazil. That's the key difference.

Ribery or Sneijder over Robben for me.

thusspakeblixa · 26-06-2008 3:34pm

redspider wrote: »

Anyone know who is the best player from Lithuania?

Their keeper plays for Dinamo Moscow (Karcemarskas) he's not bad.
Mikolunas playing for Hearts and Jankauskas for Belenenses ain't bad either.
Latvia and Estonia may be tougher.
And apart from Mifsud Malta has nowt

Xavi6 · 26-06-2008 4:25pm

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

And apart from Mifsud Malta has nowt

Ah but Gary Neville has a soccer school there now so it's only a matter of time! :pac:

Carcharodon · 26-06-2008 5:12pm

Is anyone else baffled by Lahms inclusion in alot of these teams, I haven't seen him play throughout the season but have seen all the games in this competition and he has gone back loads in my opinion.
He has been a bit of a weak link at the back since the start of the competition.

Nalz · 26-06-2008 5:37pm

Buffon

-Bowsingwa---Ferdinand----Cannavaro---Evra

Gerrard

Fabregas

--Sneijder

Ronaldo----

Torres

Rooney

gixerfixer · 26-06-2008 6:01pm

Trilla wrote: »

Buffon
-Bowsingwa---Ferdinand----Cannavaro---Evra
Gerrard
Fabregas
--Sneijder
Ronaldo----
Torres
Rooney

Rooney?? :rolleyes:

thusspakeblixa · 26-06-2008 10:24pm

Carcharodon wrote: »

Is anyone else baffled by Lahms inclusion in alot of these teams, I haven't seen him play throughout the season but have seen all the games in this competition and he has gone back loads in my opinion.
He has been a bit of a weak link at the back since the start of the competition.

Having seen him in the Bundesliga a fair bit (and believe me I hate to say this, he's a judas) he is solid for his club defensively and also contributes a fair bit going forward.
Great linking up with Podolski.

Nalz · 26-06-2008 11:32pm

gixerfixer wrote: »

Rooney?? :rolleyes:

Okay....what the FUUCK is wrong with havin Rooney there?

I like apple crumble

gixerfixer · 27-06-2008 9:24am

Trilla wrote: »

Okay....what the FUUCK is wrong with havin Rooney there?

I like apple crumble

Listen i like the lad,he works hard for his team but to say he is one of the best two strikers in Europe is a tad well mad really.Anyway it's all about opinions.

Nalz · 27-06-2008 11:10am

gixerfixer wrote: »

a tad well mad.

Rooney is one of the best player that plays in the hole imo. To call that mad well is a tad erm...insane.

thusspakeblixa · 30-06-2008 4:12pm

Right, on a boring train to Galway over the weekend, I thought about this.
The only way it would work would be if one player was chosen from each EU state to make a 27 man squad. I've put up a possible squad here (bearing in mind that it isn't necessarily the best player from each country)

Goalkeepers- Artur Boruc (Poland), Petr Cech (Czech Republic), Aleksandrs Kolinko (Latvia)
Defenders- Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Carlos Puyol (Spain), Martin Stranzl (Austria), Daniel Van Buyten (Belgium), Ignas Dedura (Lithuania), Marek Cech (Slovakia), Giourkas Seitaridis (Greece), Cristian Chivu (Romania), Bostjan Cesar (Slovenia), Jeff Strasser (Luxembourg)
Midfielders- Michael Ballack (Germany), Steven Gerrard (UK), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Aiden McGeady (Republic of Ireland), Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands), Christian Wilhelmsson (Sweden), Mika Vaerynen (Finland), Zoltan Gera (Hungary)
Strikers- Karim Benzema (France), Dimitar Berbatov (Bulgaria), Ioannas Okkas (Cyprus), Michael Mifsud (Malta), Vladimir Vosbonnikov (Estonia), Martin Jorgensen (Denmark)

Possible Starting XI

P.Cech

Seitaridis--Cannavaro

Puyol

M.Cech
Sneijder---Gerrard

Ballack

Ronaldo

Benzema

Berbatov

So the smaller nations generally wouldn't get a look in (just like in the political EU then :rolleyes:)

PS-sorry about the long post!

gaf1983 · 30-06-2008 6:30pm

Buffon

Remi Gaillard (c)---Terry----Cannavaro---Lahm

Sneijder

Fabregas

--Scweinsteiger

Ronaldo

Villa

Benzema

Manager:

Marco Van Basten

curry-muff · 30-06-2008 6:53pm

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Right, on a boring train to Galway over the weekend, I thought about this.
The only way it would work would be if one player was chosen from each EU state to make a 27 man squad. I've put up a possible squad here (bearing in mind that it isn't necessarily the best player from each country)

Goalkeepers- Artur Boruc (Poland), Petr Cech (Czech Republic), Aleksandrs Kolinko (Latvia)
Defenders- Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Carlos Puyol (Spain), Martin Stranzl (Austria), Daniel Van Buyten (Belgium), Ignas Dedura (Lithuania), Marek Cech (Slovakia), Giourkas Seitaridis (Greece), Cristian Chivu (Romania), Bostjan Cesar (Slovenia), Jeff Strasser (Luxembourg)
Midfielders- Michael Ballack (Germany), Steven Gerrard (UK), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Aiden McGeady (Republic of Ireland), Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands), Christian Wilhelmsson (Sweden), Mika Vaerynen (Finland), Zoltan Gera (Hungary)
Strikers- Karim Benzema (France), Dimitar Berbatov (Bulgaria), Ioannas Okkas (Cyprus), Michael Mifsud (Malta), Vladimir Vosbonnikov (Estonia), Martin Jorgensen (Denmark)

Possible Starting XI
P.Cech
Seitaridis--Cannavaro
Puyol
M.Cech
Sneijder---Gerrard
Ballack
Ronaldo
Benzema
Berbatov

So the smaller nations generally wouldn't get a look in (just like in the political EU then :rolleyes:)

PS-sorry about the long post!

Best post yet IMO

thusspakeblixa · 30-06-2008 7:18pm

curry-muff wrote: »

Best post yet IMO

cheers.
If the UK was broken up I'd add
David Healy from Northern Ireland
Jason Koumas from Wales
Craig Gordon from Scotland
and if I'm at that, why not throw in
Alberto Lopo (Catalonia)
Asier Del Horno (Basque Country)
Borja (Galicia)
I may try and do a South American one now

thusspakeblixa · 30-06-2008 8:23pm

And here's the product of a night of boredom
my Americas Selection to play the EU XI. Same rules apply, one player from each country to make a 27 man squad. Was originally supposed to be solely South Americans but needed 27 countries.
Goalkeepers- Tim Howard (USA), Claudio Bravo (Chile), Donovan Ricketts (Jamaica)
Defenders- Roberto Rosales (Uruguay), Martin Hidalgo (Peru), Lorgio Alvarez (Bolivia), Rafael Marquez (Mexico), Roman Torres (Panama), Gustavo Cabrera (Guatemala), Marco Velez (Puerto Rico)
Midfielders- Kaka (Brazil), Cristian Rodriguez (Uruguay), Freddy Guarín (Colombia), Antonio Valencia (Ecuador), Shawn Beveney (Guyana), Clifton Sandvliet (Suriname), Yenier Marquez (Cuba), Julian De Guzman (Canada), Paul Ifill (Barbados)
Forwards- Lionel Messi (Argentina), Roque Santa Cruz (Paraguay), Kenwyne Jones (Trinidad & Tobago), Wilber Sanchez (Nicaragua), David Suazo (Honduras),Abel Thermeus (Haiti), Gonzalo Frechilla (Dominican Republic)

Starting XI

Howard

---Rosales

Marquez

Hidalgo

De Guzman

Valencia

Guarín

Messi

Suazo

Santa Cruz

EU 11

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