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Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    - 11 goals and 13 assists

    I have a feeling those goals/assists came is blasts which kinda takes away from the stats.

    He might smack in 2 or 3 in a game and then you wont see him for a month as he tends to hide quite a bit.


    Very frustrating for the fans who watch the games. But then Id happily accept those figures if he put some effort in when things aren't going his way.


    Unfortunately he wont though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    arsenal get athelic bilbao, marseille & anderlecht in the nextGen series group stage. link

    if you don't know what it is, it basically a under 19's champions league


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    Doesn't matter, we won't win it anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ImpossibleDuck


    for all the people comparing Walcott to Pires & Ljungburg, you cant do it because the way Arsenal play now is very different from 2002-2004. for one it was 4-4-2 back then with much more emphasis on counter attacking, it was easier for Ljungburg to get behind defenders because we would attacking them while they were on the front foot and out of position.

    unlike now where we play possession football high up the pitch. This pushes opposition defenders very deep and make its very hard for a player like Walcott to get in behind them, if he was in the 2004 team he would have got many more goals imo, just look at the goals he has scored for arsenal a lot of them have come from the rare times we do find ourselves counter attacking these days.

    Also in 4-3-3 he plays much higher up the pitch than freddie or robbie ever did which doesnt suit his game too much, he needs to space to run at defenders and not receive it ball to feet with his back to goal while some neanderthal snaps at his heels. despite this his stats are very encouraging, while his performances can be very inconsistent, but thats to be expected for a 23 year old. Not everyone can be a Fabragas and be the finished article at 21
    That may well be true, but all you're really doing is backing up your opponents point about Walcott. He shouldn't have to rely solely on pace and space to beat defenders. Ever heard of a little thing called dribbling? Granted, it's not something we see very often at Arsenal any more, especially since Jack got crocked, but it's a skill Walcott certainly comes nowhere near to possessing IMO. Take Walcott's pace out of the equation (vs a speedy LB for instance) and he's completely out of ideas. He has very, very poor ball control and possesses a complete inability to beat a defender with the ball at his feet.

    The only time I ever remember him doing this effectively was that goal in the 5-3 against Chelsea and, like the Spurs goal, that was down almost entirely to blind luck. I'm not saying ship him out just yet, but if he asks for a wage that we determine is anything over what he's worth, I think we should tell him to piss off. Fúck what the English media say, they've hated Wenger since the day he arrived, and tbh, I don't think Wenger gives a fúck.
    batistuta9 wrote: »
    arsenal get athelic bilbao, marseille & anderlecht in the nextGen series group stage. link

    if you don't know what it is, it basically a under 19's champions league
    Hmmm might actually watch the Athletic game at least. If this fits right in between that gap we have between Reserve and u18 level, it could well be an interesting watch, and the obvious great benefit of competitive tournament football for our younsters. I love the idea.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ImpossibleDuck


    In other transfer news, United announce the signing of Kagawa and apparently Lucas Biglia "claims he has held talks with Arsenal about a possible move to North London this summer". Quotes of him saying Arsenal and Real Madrid are both interested are floating around. IIRC, the same was said about M'Vila last week? It looks like we'll just see who Madrid go for (as they're clearly in the market for a DM too) and then just go for the cheaper version of who they buy.

    So, that's M'Vila, Ahmedov and Biglia we've all been heavily linked with. It appears Wenger is quite serious about a DM.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    RVP 11 wrote: »
    Doesn't matter, we won't win it anyway.

    ever the optimist :pac:
    Hmmm might actually watch the Athletic game at least. If this fits right in between that gap we have between Reserve and u18 level, it could well be an interesting watch, and the obvious great benefit of competitive tournament football for our younsters. I love the idea.

    yeah it's a great idea. I dunno if it be's televised, it'd be something like eurosport would show though & probably be on the arsenal player but hopefully it's on TV somewhere.



    arteta's looking for more dosh link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    batistuta9 wrote: »

    arteta's looking for more dosh link

    A player of his quality/experience shouldn't really have had to accept a pay cut. It shows how much we wanted to join us/ play champions league football which is great to see in a modern footballer.

    He'd rather challange himself and earn lower money than make easier money at the 'Ton.

    Overall I would say he deserves a little bump in wages................not sure Ivan will think the same though :D


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    A player of his quality/experience shouldn't really have had to accept a pay cut. It shows how much we wanted to join us/ play champions league football which is great to see in a modern footballer.

    He'd rather challange himself and earn lower money than make easier money at the 'Ton.

    Overall I would say he deserves a little bump in wages................not sure Ivan will think the same though :D

    Song got one so why not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    First off have not been around in a while so have to say fair dues to Wenger, he did a great job in turning the team around and getting third.
    Thankfully it was third.
    Oh and hard luck spurs. Sorry couldn't resist. :D
    Pity that was at cost of allowing terry and cole have CL medals. :mad:

    Anyway just back from France and sad to say I did not have Squlliaci or Chamakh in the car to Bordeaux as offered a while back.
    I could even have gotten a case of wine for squillaci and had to do lots of haggling to manage that at the knackers yard.

    So what are the latest rumours and when is hazard, M villa, the "Barca youth" squad on their way, how much are Barca, Real, Chelski and City offering for RVP this week and have any of denilson, bendyboots, park, chamakh, squilacci left ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



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    Bergkamp linked with the Swansea job on sky text but there has been a few names touted around.


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    I'd become a Swansea fan.......................:D


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    RVP 11 wrote: »
    I'd become a Swansea fan.......................:D

    If he did get it then hopefully just like Rodgers it would be in preparation for a big job and i think we all know the big job we'd like him to get eventually :)


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    If he did get it then hopefully just like Rodgers it would be in preparation for a big job and i think we all know the big job we'd like him to get eventually :)

    Eventually??? give it to him now FFS jk :pac:;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    RVP 11 wrote: »
    Song got one so why not.

    Ya but we've only got one Song :D


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    Ya but we've only got one Song :D

    it used to be "1-0 to the arsenal" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    RVP 11 wrote: »
    it used to be "1-0 to the arsenal" :D

    Touché good Sir


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭KCAccidental


    If he did get it then hopefully just like Rodgers it would be in preparation for a big job and i think we all know the big job we'd like him to get eventually :)

    what would happen if we drew Shaktar Donetsk in the champions league with Bergy in charge? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,198 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    what would happen if we drew Shaktar Donetsk in the champions league with Bergy in charge? :eek:

    Good point and I can't see him going on too many far flung trips to check out the latest potential import


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    When did rogers get a big job haha


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,391 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    what would happen if we drew Shaktar Donetsk in the champions league with Bergy in charge? :eek:

    We'd respectfully destroy them of course. *twirls moustache*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭DenMan


    Fore some reason I believe we are going to be top scorers in the league next season. Keeping RVP and the acquisition of Podolski coupled with Walcott, Rosicky and possibly Benayoun and Arshavin. I have a great feeling about this. Defensively we are not going to ship as many goals as we did last season either. Come on Arsenal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,042 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    DenMan wrote: »
    Fore some reason I believe we are going to be top scorers in the league next season. Keeping RVP and the acquisition of Podolski coupled with Walcott, Rosicky and possibly Benayoun and Arshavin. I have a great feeling about this. Defensively we are not going to ship as many goals as we did last season either. Come on Arsenal.

    What about when we sell van Persie?


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    L'prof wrote: »
    What about when we sell van Persie?
    And Arshavin, Benayoun won't be back :pac:, thats stumped him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭DenMan


    L'prof wrote: »
    What about when we sell van Persie?

    We're not going to sell van Persie. His own mother and wife have both come out and advised him to stay. His wife said he owes the club so much for sticking with him when he was injured and he said himself it's not about the money. A year ago we would never have been linked with a player of Podolski's quality and now we have him. As for Benayoun and Arshavin, that's still up in the air. Arshavin played brilliantly for Russia against Italy recently and has just won the league with Zenit so he's a winner now. It's about time Arsenal fans stopped fu**king complaining and started being positive and upbeat. Look at the season we had in the end. Take the Manchester clubs out of the equation and we were top of everyone else. Not bad for a team missing players (Wilshere for the whole campaign). Wenger is a great manager and when doubted during the season by so many he trumped up brilliantly.


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    Sigurdsson's deal has fallen through and looks like he is going to Liverpool to be with Rogers.


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    DenMan wrote: »
    We're not going to sell van Persie. His own mother and wife have both come out and advised him to stay. His wife said he owes the club so much for sticking with him when he was injured and he said himself it's not about the money. A year ago we would never have been linked with a player of Podolski's quality and now we have him. As for Benayoun and Arshavin, that's still up in the air. Arshavin played brilliantly for Russia against Italy recently and has just won the league with Zenit so he's a winner now. It's about time Arsenal fans stopped fu**king complaining and started being positive and upbeat. Look at the season we had in the end. Take the Manchester clubs out of the equation and we were top of everyone else. Not bad for a team missing players (Wilshere for the whole campaign). Wenger is a great manager and when doubted during the season by so many he trumped up brilliantly.

    Because being upbeat wins you the league doesn't it?:rolleyes:
    You have to be realistic, Arshavin is way past his best (which was teh Liverpool game many years ago) he has no desire to do teamwork for Arsenal and the loan just shows that the fans forced him out of the club, get over it.
    Van Persie if offered 180k a week by Manchester City, will take it, i'm sure of it.


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    Harry Redknapp is worried he's entering into the final year of his contract.....

    "You don't let good players get down to the final year if they're any good and you don't let managers get into their final year if they're any good"
    LOL
    You're no use Harry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭DenMan




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    Barca linked with Vermaelen.:D


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