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The Ultimate Baddie

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  • 24-07-2003 11:47pm
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    LoneGunM@n
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    When I watch any film with a good guy bad guy plotline [basically every movie then PF :rolleyes:], I'm always drawn to the bad guy/girl character .... so I pose the question:

    Who is the greatest bad guy & bad girl ever?

    My preferences are:

    Bad Guy - Jack Nicholson in The Shining or Batman

    Bad Girl - Rebecca de Mornay in The Hand That Rocks The Cradle


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    sceptre
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    Bad guy: Denis Price in Kind Hearts & Coronets or Michael Douglas in Falling Down or Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda. Kline's Otto isn't the "greatest", he's probably my favourite though.

    Bad girl: Rita Hayworth in Gilda or Megara in Disney's Hercules (ah , if I were a toon). de Mornay really is single-mindedly evil in Hand that rocks the cradle though so she probably wins.

    (Meg isn't anywhere near the greatest bad girl ever, she's kind of yummy though)


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    Lafortezza
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    Michael Douglas as Gordon Gecko in Wall Street, just watched it there the other day, very good bad guy


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    BlitzKrieg
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    Alan rickman (sp?) Robin hood prince of thieves , Die hard, HE PLAYS SNAPE FOR GODSAKE!!!


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    #5
    bandit
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    Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet
    GAME OVER


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    DaithiSurfer
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    Another vote for Alan Rickman in die hard


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    ixoy
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    Originally posted by bandit
    Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet
    GAME OVER

    Seconded! You'll never look at breathing equipment in quite the same way again....


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    bandit
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    In terms of the laydeez its either:-

    Louise Fletcher One flew over the Cukoos (sp?) nest
    Or
    Kathy Bates in Misery


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    Sarky
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    The Architect of The Matrix (if he actually IS a bad guy, so many unanswered questions...:) ) has a certain style I like a lot.

    But the Predators from the Predator films are just fantastic.


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    deadduck
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    Lector in Red Dragon, even more devious than in the others, giving will graham's address to the tooth fairy


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    superfly
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    i wouldnt call him a bad guy but i loved Roy Batty in Blade Runner
    and another vote here for Nurse Rachid


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    #12
    paidi_ed
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    Dr. Evil is the ultimate baddie


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    xern
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    Originally posted by DaithiSurfer
    Another vote for Alan Rickman in die hard

    definitly!!


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    Johnny Gomez
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    John Doe - Se7en
    T-1000 - Terminator 2
    Joker - Batman


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    Pigman II
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    Noah Cross (John Huston) in Chinatown. His 'credits' including being a Corrupt Businessman / Paedophile / Rapist / Murderer ... the list goes on and on. And if all that wasn't bad enough he liked to eat fish with the heads still on :)

    BTW the Dennis Hopper / Blue Velvet answer is too obvious. Sure he's effective the first time you watch the movie but on repeat viewings he's just laughable and boring (much like the movie itself).


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    bizmark
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    Shizon from star trek 10

    basturd wanted to destroy earth and the enterprise ! cant get much worse than that :)


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    sci0x
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    I think the ultimate baddie would have to be Sauron from the lands of Mordor in The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers!


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    El Marco
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    Agent Smith - The Matrix (I didn't like reloaded but he kept it on top for me)

    T1000 - Terminator 2 (Nothing better, calm calculated killer)

    Joker - Batman (That movie sucked so bad, but jack made that film)

    Old Man (or to be exact Jim Siedow) the father - Texas Chainsaw Mascre (Really tense the way he's crazy one second and then symathetic another. Gives the victim a glimmer of hope, only to be shot down when he starts hitting them with broom sticks :) )


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    ixoy
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    Originally posted by Pigman II


    BTW the Dennis Hopper / Blue Velvet answer is too obvious. Sure he's effective the first time you watch the movie but on repeat viewings he's just laughable and boring (much like the movie itself).

    It's obvious? I'd say it's a darn sight less obvious than a more mainstream reference like Die Hard or The Terminator.....

    Anyway I thought of one more chilling - the titular character in Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. Zero remorse, zero empathy. And, chillingly, no real reason for doing any of it.


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    sci0x
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    Voldemort - Harry Potter

    hehe


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    byte
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    byte


    T-1000 (Robert Patrick) in T2


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    Pigman II
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    Originally posted by ixoy
    It's obvious? I'd say it's a darn sight less obvious than a more mainstream reference like Die Hard or The Terminator.....

    I agree with you, but then you must see it from my POV that opinions of 'T-1000' or 'Hans Gruber' being the ultimate baddie in cinema history aren't worth refering to anyway.


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    Beck Amerdam
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    Zorin in A View to a Kill played by Christopher Walken. Man he was one evil business man, remember he tossed the guy out of the blimp because he didn't want to join Zorin's business plan? Plus the minor detail of wanting to flood all of Silicon Valley to make his company a monopoly. Nasty man that one. :p


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    LoneGunM@n
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    For all the men out there, I was just reminded of the ball breaking/bunny boiling terror of Glen Close in Fatal Attraction!!

    :eek: :eek: :eek:


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    #25
    GreenHell
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    Micheal Corleone - Al Pacino's character in the godfather.

    Jimmy Conaway - De Niro's character in Goodfellas.

    Joe Pesci in Casino and Goodfellas.


    These are the most evil people in movies, with of course the godfather on top.


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