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Ariel Sharon "close to the end"

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  • #102
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    The important point, which seems to be lost on some posters, is that while he didn't achieve peace, he at least tried.


    ....when?


  • #103
    Nodin
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    Sand wrote: »
    I think on balance he is no worse than Yasser Arafat. Both of them engaged in forms of conflict that were at best questionable, both of them failed to negotiate a lasting peace. Both of them need to be judged in the context of the other. Many welcomed and rejoiced in Arafats death. Many will welcome and rejoice in Sharon's.


    Only one of them was colonising another peoples land, however.


  • #104
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Common sense would be looking at situations of conflict dispassionately and from the point of view of being a neutral observer. Assuming everything Israel does is wrong, and forgiving others more easily doesn't fit into that.

    Logic does not often apply when dealing with Israel and it's leaders. When others do wrong against Israel, it's a a big deal, with big repercussions. When Israel does wrong it's no big deal. It ignores international law and does as it likes.


  • #105
    Brown Bomber
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    Sorry if this has been posted already, but I wanted to share the best obit that I've read of Sharon. It's by Max Blumenthal in the Nation.
    How Ariel Sharon Shaped Israel’s Destiny

    In a bloody career that spanned decades, he destroyed entire cities and presided over the killing of countless civilians.


    http://www.thenation.com/article/177883/how-ariel-sharon-shaped-israels-destiny#


  • #106
    Sacksian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Sacksian


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been posted already, but I wanted to share the best obit that I've read of Sharon. It's by Max Blumenthal in the Nation.

    Well, if anyone should be able to write an even-handed piece about anything involving Israel, it's Max Blumenthal.


  • #107
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    "A curriculum to teach students about former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, published by the Education Ministry in the wake of his death, likens the former Israeli leader to Moses and contains no mention of the controversial episodes in his life.
    The material, intended for fourth- to ninth-grade classes, also asks students to compare Peres’ eulogy of Sharon with King David’s lament for Saul and Jonathan"
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/.premium-1.568624

    Bizarre, to say the least.


  • #108
    Fred Swanson
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  • #109
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    ....to be honest, yes, though perhaps remaining light on detail, and using the word "controversial" a lot. This, however, is a bit mad.


  • #110
    Eggy Baby!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Theres a major difference between omitting the negatives and idolising the man


  • #111
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    Of course I do. How else would they prevent their kids from repeating the mistakes of the past. You said yourself he did dodgy things why shouldn't the israeli kids know the truth?


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