Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

TheTownie · 23-04-2012 2:43pm

Blatter wrote: »

Out of interest, does anyone know when was the last time we lost a game with Howard as the ref?

4th Jan 2012: Newcastle 3-0 Man Utd

kryogen · 23-04-2012 2:45pm

I really really really hope it is not Howard Webb, but it probably will be considering they rank him as their "top official" dont they. He goes out of his way to try to prove his is not pro United and it really hurts the game in general.

He has had some shocking decisions this season.

Then again, it does give the "neutrals" a nice angle on the match

Giggsy11 · 23-04-2012 2:49pm

Keane made it 3-0. It's unreal how composed Keane is in the box.

kryogen · 23-04-2012 2:51pm

Was a nice finish

kryogen · 23-04-2012 3:05pm

4-0

TheTownie · 23-04-2012 3:08pm

kryogen · 23-04-2012 3:15pm

Would be nice to see a City player lose the head and get sent off early again alright, they played some nice stuff with ten even then though didnt they?

Cannot wait for this match!

That_Guy · 23-04-2012 3:25pm

Eh, Sky Sports just said that Andre Marriner is refereeing on their Twitter account.

parc · 23-04-2012 3:30pm

**** it, just got a wave of optimism. bring on city. the game is gonna be epic. we have a week to prepare, rest assured fergie will have something big planned for them this week.

kryogen · 23-04-2012 3:33pm

Andre Marriner confirmed as the ref for the Derby thank fcuk!

Sgt Pepper 64 · 23-04-2012 3:33pm

That_Guy wrote: »

Eh, Sky Sports just said that Andre Marriner is refereeing on their Twitter account.

Confirmed on the BBC

1524:
BREAKING NEWSAndre Marriner is named as the referee for next Monday's Manchester derby

TheTownie · 23-04-2012 3:35pm

That_Guy wrote: »

Eh, Sky Sports just said that Andre Marriner is refereeing on their Twitter account.

Blatter · 23-04-2012 3:37pm

kryogen wrote: »

Andre Marriner confirmed as the ref for the Derby thank fcuk!

Thank the Lords.

Webb would be afraid to give us anything had we got him.

Sgt Pepper 64 · 23-04-2012 3:39pm

Blatter wrote: »

Thank the Lords.

Webb would be afraid to give us anything had we got him.

Errrr - Not entirely without his own mistakes!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2064540/Andre-Marriner-punished-allowing-Blackburn-goal-Wigan.html

and Fergie has a long memory!

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Alex-Ferguson-attacks-Anfield-ref-Andre-Marriner-after-Liverpool-defeat-article201135.html

Delboy5 · 23-04-2012 3:42pm

TheTownie wrote: »

Andrew Marriner hasn't reffed any City games this season.

3 Utd games;

Home Team | Score | Away Team
Bolton | 0-5 | Man Utd
Liverpool | 1-1 | Man Utd
Norwich | 1-2 | Man Utd

All away games which we didn't lose, please let the trend continue !!!

Blatter · 23-04-2012 3:43pm

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Errrr - Not entirely without his own mistakes!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2064540/Andre-Marriner-punished-allowing-Blackburn-goal-Wigan.html

and Fergie has a long memory!

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Alex-Ferguson-attacks-Anfield-ref-Andre-Marriner-after-Liverpool-defeat-article201135.html

Nobody's perfect

Nah, but I'd be genuinely worried if Webb was the ref. It would be impossible for him not to have the public perceived pro Utd bias in the back of his mind, and he'd think twice about giving us decisions.

Sgt Pepper 64 · 23-04-2012 3:47pm

Blatter wrote: »

Nobody's perfect

Nah, but I'd be genuinely worried if Webb was the ref. It would be impossible for him not to have the public perceived pro Utd bias in the back of his mind, and he'd think twice about giving us decisions.

His work is done this season anyway

Backstreet Moyes · 23-04-2012 3:50pm

How lazy is Evra. Everytime Everton went down his side yesterday he was nowhere to be seen. Him having that armband is a disgrace.

SlickRic · 23-04-2012 3:50pm

Blatter wrote: »

Nah, but I'd be genuinely worried if Webb was the ref. It would be impossible for him not to have the public perceived pro Utd bias in the back of his mind, and he'd think twice about giving us decisions.

has it before?

is there any reason to believe it would happen again?

he's a professional whose not actually biased, and this perceived bias has been around for years at this stage, and it's never affected anything as far as I've ever been able to tell.

J. Marston · 23-04-2012 3:51pm

Besides the Welbeck penalty against Chelsea this season and the Berbatov penalty last year against Liverpool in the FA Cup (which was a penalty), what controversial decisions has Webb given for us that lead idiots to think that he's in our pocket?

TheTownie · 23-04-2012 3:52pm

Andrew Marriner averages the same amount of yellows per game as Howard Webb and is a bit shy of twice as many reds.

Marriner averages 1 red every 5 games. Hes on a run of 6 matches without giving a red card. His longest run this season is 7 matches.

Averages suggest he is due to give a red! :pac:

Sgt Pepper 64 · 23-04-2012 3:55pm

If nobody tells Mancini he has won it, he will just deny it anyway - job done!

SlickRic · 23-04-2012 3:56pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Besides the Welbeck penalty against Chelsea this season and the Berbatov penalty last year against Liverpool in the FA Cup (which was a penalty), what controversial decisions has Webb given for us that lead idiots to think that he's in our pocket?

it's just a cliché that has been said enough that it's just become part of the football fan's psyche.

a bit like the idea of "mind games". they don't exist, but if it's said often enough, people will believe it.

Blatter · 23-04-2012 4:10pm

SlickRic wrote: »

has it before?

is there any reason to believe it would happen again?

he's a professional whose not actually biased, and this perceived bias has been around for years at this stage, and it's never affected anything as far as I've ever been able to tell.

The last game we had him, against Blackburn, he gave them a free kick on the edge of the box even though Scholes cleanly won the ball, and he didn't send a Blackburn player off for a blatant elbow on Scholes iirc. There was a couple of other fifty fifty decisions he gave to Blackburn as well.

Last season in that big game against Chelsea, Lampard handled Valencia's cross quite blatantly yet no penalty was given. He did't send off Ivanovic either despite being on a yellow and putting in another late, and poor challenge.

He's obviously given us decisions as well, so maybe he's just not that good of a ref but to be perfectly honest with you I'd worry about the public perception of him being pro Utd playing on his mind in such a massive game. Just imagine the **** he'd have to put up with if he gave us a dodgy penalty? That fear could easily make him hesitate in giving a legitimate claim. He is only human after all.

Will I Amnt · 23-04-2012 4:11pm

SlickRic wrote: »

a bit like the idea of "mind games". they don't exist, but if it's said often enough, people will believe it.

They do exist,the myth is that managers take any notice of them.

kryogen · 23-04-2012 4:12pm

I think its just safe to say that it is better for all parties, United, City and Webb that he has not been given the game for various reasons.

kryogen · 23-04-2012 4:13pm

Did Marriner do the Charity Shield?

Professional Griefer · 23-04-2012 4:32pm

I think it was the awful Phil Dowd?

kryogen · 23-04-2012 4:35pm

Ah Philly, what a man

Kylo Ren · 23-04-2012 4:50pm

Vidic is our rock at the back. Kompany is City's. Where would you think City would be without Kompany for the season?

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