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Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

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  • #5002
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    What sort of a sick comment is that?

    Any sicker than someone saying they think its murder? No. I have a feeling its a drug overdose, I may well be wrong, but I have a right to an opinion so get off your high horse.


  • #5003
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I'd bet on a drug overdose.
    Showing your true colours now arent you? Why make a comment like this?


  • #5004
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    I suspect some foul play there, just a gut feeling :(

    ffs a gut feeling? Is that it??


  • #5005
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Any sicker than someone saying they think its murder? No. I have a feeling its a drug overdose, I may well be wrong, but I have a right to an opinion so get off your high horse.


    No you don't have any right to speculate about the man's death, you know nothing about it. You are already backtracking, if you were any kind of a man you would simply retract the comment.


  • #5006
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    No you don't have any right to speculate about the man's death, you know nothing about it. You are already backtracking, if you were any kind of a man you would simply retract the comment.

    I'm not back tracking on anything, I made a comment and I stick by it, its my opinion, I'm entitled to it. Its an open forum and what I said isn't breaking any rules. So again, get off your high horse.

    Edit: I don't see you making any comment on the speculation of foul play, or is it because I'm a Rangers fan you can't accept my opinion?


  • #5007
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Showing your true colours now arent you? Why make a comment like this?

    Because its my opinion, I wouldn't wish death on my worst enemy, but I'm entitled to have an opinion.


  • #5008
    dubdamo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭dubdamo


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I'd bet on a drug overdose.
    Really classy post, speculating about a mans death like that, really classy.


  • #5009
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I'm not back tracking on anything, I made a comment and I stick by it, its my opinion, I'm entitled to it. Its an open forum and what I said isn't breaking any rules. So again, get off your high horse.

    Edit: I don't see you making any comment on the speculation of foul play, or is it because I'm a Rangers fan you can't accept my opinion?

    The other poster should not be speculating on "foul play" either, that doesn't let you off the hook for your so-called "comment".

    You were backtracking, and again you are not entitled to speculate about the circumstances of the man's death.


  • #5010
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    I suspect some foul play there, just a gut feeling :(
    dubdamo wrote: »
    Really classy post, speculating about a mans death like that, really classy.

    I refer you to the other quoted post. Also speculation no?


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  • #5011
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    The other poster should not be speculating on "foul play" either, that doesn't let you off the hook for your so-called "comment".

    You were backtracking, and again you are not entitled to speculate about the circumstances of the man's death.

    I'm not trying to get off the hook, I found it interesting how you picked the Rangers fans post and not the other one to make a few digs at.

    I am not backtracking, I am sticking by my post, for the third time, I am entitled to an opinion, if you don't like it, ignore it.


  • #5012
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Lars1916 wrote: »
    I suspect some foul play there, just a gut feeling :(

    I'd bet on a drug overdose.
    How much do you wanna bet?


  • #5013
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,286 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I am not backtracking, I am sticking by my post, for the third time, I am entitled to an opinion, if you don't like it, ignore it.

    What are you basing your opinion on?


  • #5014
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    What are you basing your opinion on?

    Speculation, basically.


  • #5015
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Speculation, basically.

    So you are "sticking" by your original highly dubious post which was made on the basis of pure speculation? Shut up will ya.


  • #5016
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Speculation, basically.

    of course everything is speculation at this stage, is there a reason to believe drugs are involved i.e was he rumored to have a drug problem or have you actually pulled this opinion out of your arse.

    If you just pulled the idea out of your arse then you are a sick bastard out to blacken a mans name because he professionally represented Celtic.

    Edit: I'd expect a comment like that from the sort of animals who support the mail bombs directed at Mc Bride last year.


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  • #5017
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    So you are "sticking" by your original highly dubious post which was made on the basis of pure speculation? Shut up will ya.
    bobmalooka wrote: »
    of course everything is speculation at this stage, is there a reason to believe drugs are involved i.e was he rumored to have a drug problem or have you actually pulled this opinion out of your arse.

    If you just pulled the idea out of your arse then you are a sick bastard out to blacken a mans name because he professionally represented Celtic.

    I'm basing my opinion on stuff that has been said to me previous to today, from people I fully trust not to make stuff up, but it is something that you would call speculation I guess.

    I'm not blackening anyone's name because he represented Celtic at all, I couldn't give a flying **** who he represented. I didn't like the man at all but I wouldn't wish death on anyone.

    Edit: I never supported any mail bombs.


  • #5018
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I'm basing my opinion on stuff that has been said to me previous to today, from people I fully trust not to make stuff up, but it is something that you would call speculation I guess.

    I'm not blackening anyone's name because he represented Celtic at all, I couldn't give a flying **** who he represented. I didn't like the man at all but I wouldn't wish death on anyone.

    Edit: I never supported any mail bombs.

    so was it rumored he had a drug problem?

    did you dislike him?


  • #5019
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    the realpigiron wrote: »
    So you are "sticking" by your original highly dubious post which was made on the basis of pure speculation? Shut up will ya.
    bobmalooka wrote: »
    of course everything is speculation at this stage, is there a reason to believe drugs are involved i.e was he rumored to have a drug problem or have you actually pulled this opinion out of your arse.

    If you just pulled the idea out of your arse then you are a sick bastard out to blacken a mans name because he professionally represented Celtic.

    I'm basing my opinion on stuff that has been said to me previous to today, from people I fully trust not to make stuff up, but it is something that you would call speculation I guess.

    I'm not blackening anyone's name because he represented Celtic at all, I couldn't give a flying **** who he represented. I didn't like the man at all but I wouldn't wish death on anyone.

    Edit: I never supported any mail bombs.
    How much did you say you want to bet?


  • #5020
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    so was it rumored he had a drug problem?

    did you dislike him?

    It says I didn't like him?


  • #5021
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    How much did you say you want to bet?

    It says I would bet, not that I wanted to make the bet. Unfortunately as a student I'm as close to liquidation as Rangers at the minute! :p


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  • #5022
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    so was it rumored he had a drug problem?

    did you dislike him?
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    It says I didn't like him?

    Please answer my first question, you dont want to act like your buddies keith and jelle now do you.


  • #5023
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    Please answer my first question, you dont want to act like your buddies keith and jelle now do you.

    Sorry my mistake I didn't even notice that part. Yes, I've heard many rumours he had a drug problem.


  • #5024
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Sorry my mistake I didn't even notice that part. Yes, I've heard many rumours he had a drug problem.

    fair enough that explains your opinion, im sure you understand why expressing that opinion with absolutely no reason as to how you formed it looks bad.


  • #5025
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Sorry my mistake I didn't even notice that part. Yes, I've heard many rumours he had a drug problem.

    There's rumours and speculation on one side, but apparently, they carry out an autopsy. Usually, that's not done, if there weren't any suspicions, I suppose


  • #5026
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    fair enough that explains your opinion, im sure you understand why expressing that opinion with absolutely no reason as to how you formed it looks bad.

    Fair enough, I suppose that is my fault, I suppose I expected people to realise I don't just make up opinions like some people do (why I expected that I don't know).


  • #5027
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    There's rumours and speculation on one side, but apparently, they carry out an autopsy. Usually, that's not done, if there weren't any suspicions, I suppose

    Any unexpected sudden death like that will have an autopsy to determine the cause of death.


  • #5028
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Fair enough, I suppose that is my fault, I suppose I expected people to realise I don't just make up opinions like some people do (why I expected that I don't know).

    I think everyones on edge after the sick comments posted about child abuse and ice cream last week.


  • #5029
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Because its my opinion, I wouldn't wish death on my worst enemy, but I'm entitled to have an opinion.

    but an opinion based on what? have you heard something or know something we don't?


  • #5030
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    but an opinion based on what? have you heard something or know something we don't?

    Yes as I explained mate.


  • #5031
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Yes as I explained mate.

    ya just read it now, fair enough


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  • #5032
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    but an opinion based on what? have you heard something or know something we don't?

    He is basing his comment on idle speculation, which is poor form. He doesn't know anymore than the rest of us, that is the only thing we can be certain of.


  • #5033
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    He is basing his comment on idle speculation, which is poor form. He doesn't know anymore than the rest of us, that is the only thing we can be certain of.

    And I never once claimed to know more than anyone, stop being a petulant child ffs.


  • #5034
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    And I never once claimed to know more than anyone, stop being a petulant child ffs.

    Well then shut up with your idle speculation and have a bit of respect.


  • #5035
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    Well then shut up with your idle speculation and have a bit of respect.

    You're the one that needs to learn to respect people's right to an opinion, so no I won't shut up.

    Someone else claimed it was foul play, you haven't attacked his character or moaned at him for being disrespectful. But then again, he's a fellow celtic fan.

    I've explained my opinion, and its not going to change because you don't like it. I'm out.


  • #5036
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    You're the one that needs to learn to respect people's right to an opinion.

    I've explained my opinion, and its not going to change because you don't like it. I'm out.

    You're entitled to your opinion, that's not the issue. There's a time and place for everything though, and your timing on this was more what I'd have expected from some others rather than yourself tbh.


  • #5037
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    PauloMN wrote: »
    You're entitled to your opinion, that's not the issue. There's a time and place for everything though, and your timing on this was more what I'd have expected from some others rather than yourself tbh.

    Someone suggested foul play, I suggested drugs, I might well be wrong, but I'm not taking it back.


  • #5038
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Someone suggested foul play, I suggested drugs, I might well be wrong, but I'm not taking it back.

    I don't expect you too. Like I say, timing is more the issue I think. The man is not dead a day and you come in with "bet it's an overdose" comments.

    True or not true, founded or unfounded, I just think it's grossly disrespectful.


  • #5039
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    You're the one that needs to learn to respect people's right to an opinion, so no I won't shut up.

    Your "opinion" is based entirely on idle speculation and is clearly driven by your admission that "you didn't like the man" as you have said. Your "opinion" on this matter such as it is does not deserve respect.

    A man has died and you are engaging in idle speculation. If "you didn't like him" as you say for whatever reason, then you should have the basic manners to say nothing.


  • #5040
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I'd bet on a drug overdose.

    What makes you think that?


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  • #5041
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I'd bet on a drug overdose.
    Feck off


  • #5042
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    What makes you think that?

    As I said, things I've heard in the past from people I know wouldn't make it up, about his habits, thats all.


  • #5043
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Fenian Army wrote: »
    Feck off

    em, no.


  • #5044
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Fenian Army wrote: »
    Feck off

    em, no.
    What drugs was he involved with?


  • #5045
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    As I said, things I've heard in the past from people I know wouldn't make it up, about his habits, thats all.

    Yeah but who's to say that you aren't making it up. Can't believe you are still here digging this hole, get lost liar.


  • #5046
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    What drugs was he involved with?

    Allegedly, quite the cocaine habit.
    the realpigiron wrote: »
    Yeah but I'd say that you are making it up. Can't believe you are still here digging this hole, get lost liar.

    I'm not digging any hole, you're the only person that hasn't moved on. Your petty wee liar comments are really making you look good.


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  • #5047
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Allegedly, quite the cocaine habit.



    I'm not digging any hole, you're the only person that hasn't moved on. Your petty wee liar comments are really making you look good.

    You are digging a hole. You're just throwing out comments around the place with no evidence at all to back up what you are saying.

    In my experience someone who doesn't have the decorum to show a bit of respect to those who have recently passed away, is probably a weak individual most likely with personal issues. Such an individual would be prone to lieing/making up stuff as well.


  • #5048
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    You are digging a hole. You're just throwing out comments around the place with no evidence at all to back up what you are saying.

    In my experience someone who doesn't have the decorum to show a bit of respect to those who have recently passed away, is probably a weak individual most likely with personal issues. Such an individual would be prone to lieing/making up stuff as well.

    I have no personal issues thanks, and I don't make stuff up. Maybe you have personal issues, seeing as you're making it up as some fact that i'm telling lies...


  • #5049
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I have no personal issues thanks, and I don't make stuff up. Maybe you have personal issues, seeing as you're making it up as some fact that i'm telling lies...

    Seeing as you can't back up what you are saying, I'm taking the view that you are making it up.

    One thing is for certain, your comments are ill timed and bad form, and if you had any respect you would desist from making them. Do yourself a favour and stop digging.


  • #5050
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Real classy, the guys barely dead and you are calling him a junkie


  • #5051
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    Seeing as you can't back up what you are saying, I'm taking the view that you are making it up.

    What do you want me to do, get the people who have told me to register on here just to back me up?

    I think we've gone as far as we're going to go with this.


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