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What companies that allow teleworking?

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  • 22-09-2015 3:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭


    Hey, I'm a senior level software developer, considering my options. So, I'm wondering what tech companies are generally supportive of regular/weekly working from home / teleworking?

    For example, I *think* Microsoft are, although I'm not sure exactly how far that support goes.

    Specifically, I'm thinking of living in a more rural location, without settling for a rural tech job.

    I know all about the problems with rural internet, but that is not the question for today...

    Anyone?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Do you mean a day or two a week or all of the time?


  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭mcbert


    I was thinking at least 3 days/week at home, otherwise it probably wouldn't be worth the hassle & effort commuting when I do need to be back in the office.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    That's a fair bit to be working from home.

    I'm wondering if this would be better suited to the Development forum where you'd have a more targetted audience with more information.

    Would you like me to move it there for you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭mcbert


    Yep, thanks. Makes sense.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    moved from work and jobs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    You'd probably have to earn a level of trust to work from home at all, eg. 6 months in the company.

    Even then a lot of companies probably won't commit/promise to let anyone/everyone work from home.
    It would be decided by your line manager, assuming you proved you could work independently and weren't slacking off.

    Our company allows people to work from home, but then the company has to provide more expensive laptops as opposed to desktops, support a VPN server, increased I.T. support calls, etc.

    I think 3 days working from home is definitely pushing the limits for someone just starting in a new company.


  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭mcbert


    I was thinking it would be at least a year before I'd hope to be in a position to do it, and I do know even then it would depend on particular job and manager etc, but what I was hoping for was names of companies that are known to be supportive of the idea, used to doing it for at least some of their staff, without it being only for some sort of exceptional circumstances...
    You'd probably have to earn a level of trust to work from home at all, eg. 6 months in the company.

    Even then a lot of companies probably won't commit/promise to let anyone/everyone work from home.
    It would be decided by your line manager, assuming you proved you could work independently and weren't slacking off.

    Our company allows people to work from home, but then the company has to provide more expensive laptops as opposed to desktops, support a VPN server, increased I.T. support calls, etc.

    I think 3 days working from home is definitely pushing the limits for someone just starting in a new company.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,969 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    mcbert wrote: »
    I was thinking it would be at least a year before I'd hope to be in a position to do it, and I do know even then it would depend on particular job and manager etc, but what I was hoping for was names of companies that are known to be supportive of the idea, used to doing it for at least some of their staff, without it being only for some sort of exceptional circumstances...

    Check out OpenStack. They seem to be open to remote workers if you have the right skills.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham




  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭krazyklown


    The company i work for (Liberty Information Technology - based in Blanchardstown & Belfast) have a flexible working policy which includes working from home on a regular basis. As far as i know you need to be there six months and have agreement with line manager. Only there a few months myself but it appears to be quite well embedded into the culture. I think they are hiring as well at the moment. PM me if you want more info.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭bpmurray


    Lots of folk in IBM work from home although they tend to have proven themselves first. There are loads of folk from across the world working there, and its not unusual for people from places as far apart as China, Italy, etc. to take a trip home and work from home for a week or two. As long as they deliver on their work, there shouldn't be a problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭neilk32


    Graham wrote: »

    This is a great site I found a job here, I've been working fully remote for two months now. Saving two hours a day commute time. It's really increased my happiness levels.


  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭mcbert


    So you are living in Ireland, being paid by a company based abroad? Interesting.

    neilk32 wrote: »
    This is a great site I found a job here, I've been working fully remote for two months now. Saving two hours a day commute time. It's really increased my happiness levels.


  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭neilk32


    mcbert wrote: »
    So you are living in Ireland, being paid by a company based abroad? Interesting.

    Yep, I am living in Ireland at the moment. I'm employed as a contractor, I set myself up as a limited company and got an accountant to manage my taxes. I work for an American company, the salaries are much higher in the states. It would be very hard for me to match the money I'm getting now with a job in Ireland.

    Stack Overflow has a careers section with a remote option too and there is actually a few Irish companies on there that would let you work fully remote.

    http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs?allowsremote=true


  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭mcbert


    neilk32 wrote: »
    Yep, I am living in Ireland at the moment. I'm employed as a contractor, I set myself up as a limited company and got an accountant to manage my taxes. I work for an American company, the salaries are much higher in the states. It would be very hard for me to match the money I'm getting now with a job in Ireland.

    Stack Overflow has a careers section with a remote option too and there is actually a few Irish companies on there that would let you work fully remote.

    http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs?allowsremote=true

    Cool! So you flew over for interview(s)? Then immediately started working full time in Ireland? Or you did a trial period over there first? Do you have to fly back to the office much? Sorry if too many questions, I'm just very curious...


  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭neilk32


    mcbert wrote: »
    Cool! So you flew over for interview(s)? Then immediately started working full time in Ireland? Or you did a trial period over there first? Do you have to fly back to the office much? Sorry if too many questions, I'm just very curious...

    No I didn't have to leave my house. Had a few interviews/technical interviews over Skype and a short technical test to complete. The company I work for is fully remote so I will never need to travel.

    I think most companies that advertise a remote job will conduct the interviews online and wouldn't expect you to travel (much)


  • Registered Users Posts: 768 ✭✭✭14ned


    neilk32 wrote: »
    Yep, I am living in Ireland at the moment. I'm employed as a contractor, I set myself up as a limited company and got an accountant to manage my taxes. I work for an American company, the salaries are much higher in the states. It would be very hard for me to match the money I'm getting now with a job in Ireland.

    Stack Overflow has a careers section with a remote option too and there is actually a few Irish companies on there that would let you work fully remote.

    http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs?allowsremote=true

    I've been working exclusively from home as a contractor since 2009 here in Cork with a minor sojourn in Canada.

    Well paying remote working contracts are much harder to find than on-site. As a general rule, I'll accept a 15% pay drop over on-site to work remotely, and another 15% if it's open source. Hence one reaches what Canonical (http://www.canonical.com/) pays for senior engineers which is a hefty one third reduction over on-site, but if you move out to rural locations with Fibre broadband it's a definite disposable income gain (less than 500 rent per month makes a huge difference, AND you can offset a chunk of that + bills against pre-tax earnings). And you don't waste time commuting of course.

    Once you're established and well known to those Irish recruiters who specialise in remote working contracts, you shouldn't usually be more than three months between remote contracts. That time is for vacation and training though, just because you're not earning should never mean you're not at work every day upskilling. By upskilling, I mean contributing code to well known open source projects and writing books, not faffing around on google for the day.

    My current remote working contract was found for me by http://www.qptech.ie/ who are based in Limerick. They find people internationally for multinationals and take about 15% of your day rate.

    Regarding interviews, everything was also done over Skype and WebEx. It was a shoo in for me though as my name was recognised by my interviewers (presenting at a few conferences per year is an excellent way of dispensing with interviews, last time I interviewed at Google three of the interviewers knew who I was already).

    Whether remote working is for the OP though is another matter. Many people have substantially psychological difficulty adjusting, especially initially. Getting the limited company set up and learning how P30's and VAT works (and getting your wife employed in your company etc) is all a steep learning curve.

    I really wouldn't advice moving to remote contracting unless you have at least 50k in the bank to cover the costs of transition. At least initially you'll be underemployed for significant periods, and having to work low paid contracts (e.g. guru.com) to establish your name. You should think of it as being as disruptive as a complete career change, as it sort of is, there are very different skills involved than just software engineering - you'll need to become a businessperson. That means you become a service which needs to be targeted, marketed, and successfully sold for every contract you gain. You'll need to keep your costs low, learn how to run a business trading internationally outside Ireland with all the VAT and EU rules involved, and all the risk - including any bad health - will be 100% on you not anyone else. In short, it's not for everyone, and I particularly wouldn't recommend it if you are either older or younger. Older folk are too at risk of unexpected poor health, younger people haven't the experience nor discipline.

    Hope that helps.

    Niall


  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭mcbert


    Wow. Great info. Thanks! Much to think about!


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