Leaving Cert 2014 OT v2.0 - Official Bitch & Moan thread

LoveLamps · 18-05-2014 12:34pm

I honestly dont know how study is going for me. I feel like I know nothing but I am fortunate that often remember stuff from listening in class etc.
focusing on english/accounting/french(just started today!) and physics.

There is a 50/50 chance everything will either go grand or i'll do terrible.

But hey, happy thoughts!

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 1:02pm

I think I'll just give up on studying this weekend, I've just been feeling like crap and taking in nothing.

oncex · 18-05-2014 2:07pm

Guys I just worked it out for my own head...
in 2013/2012/2011 of Biology exam papers; if you did Unit 1 and 2 and experiments its 80% every year. I was led to believe it varies but 80% every year. Thinking back on 2013 when I sat the Leaving cert, I remember staying up all night trying to learn the human systems and completely neglecting experiments. Crazy. Saying that, no human systems as such came up last year, so could that dynamic change?

oncex · 18-05-2014 2:09pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

I think I'll just give up on studying this weekend, I've just been feeling like crap and taking in nothing.

Do an hour of a theory based subject after dinner this evening. Relax but don't waste a day.

Poliana.xo · 18-05-2014 2:11pm

oncex wrote: »

Guys I just worked it out for my own head...
in 2013/2012/2011 of Biology exam papers; if you did Unit 1 and 2 and experiments its 80% every year. I was led to believe it varies but 80% every year. Thinking back on 2013 when I sat the Leaving cert, I remember staying up all night trying to learn the human systems and completely neglecting experiments. Crazy. Saying that, no human systems as such came up last year, so could that dynamic change?

The fact that none of the systems came up last year makes me almost sure we will get some this year.. They can't completely ignore them, and most of them are due to appear somewhere on the paper.. going for a B I would say unit 1 and unit 2 plus experiments would be alright, but going for an A I would know most of the unit 3 also

oncex · 18-05-2014 2:31pm

Poliana.xo wrote: »

The fact that none of the systems came up last year makes me almost sure we will get some this year.. They can't completely ignore them, and most of them are due to appear somewhere on the paper.. going for a B I would say unit 1 and unit 2 plus experiments would be alright, but going for an A I would know most of the unit 3 also

Going for an A1 myself, so have covered them regardless but I wish I knew that knowledge last year, before repeating. Can't praise exam technique enough. The 2013/2012/2011 paper consisted of
4/5(6) short questions on Unit 2 and 2=80 marks/100
The 2 experiments=60 marks/60
and 3/4 long questions=180/240
So basically just missing a short question and a long question.

Poliana.xo · 18-05-2014 3:00pm

oncex wrote: »

Going for an A1 myself, so have covered them regardless but I wish I knew that knowledge last year, before repeating. Can't praise exam technique enough. The 2013/2012/2011 paper consisted of
4/5(6) short questions on Unit 2 and 2=80 marks/100
The 2 experiments=60 marks/60
and 3/4 long questions=180/240
So basically just missing a short question and a long question.

Oh lets just hope ecology and genetics questions are nice, and that there is a nice choice in others.. Overall please be a nice paper

Experiments are such easy marks though, my favorite part of the exam :pac:

Aspiring · 18-05-2014 3:51pm

Is it better to do your poetry essay in English poem by poem (i.e. 1 poem per paragraph) or talk about several poems in one paragraph. I've always done it the first way but I noticed my poetry essay was my poorest mark on my mock, however it could have been because it was extremely rushed towards the end of the exam.

Lara_15 · 18-05-2014 4:11pm

Aspiring wrote: »

Is it better to do your poetry essay in English poem by poem (i.e. 1 poem per paragraph) or talk about several poems in one paragraph. I've always done it the first way but I noticed my poetry essay was my poorest mark on my mock, however it could have been because it was extremely rushed towards the end of the exam.

I was always told to do it topic by topic instead of poem by poem

AtomicKoala · 18-05-2014 4:47pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

Is everyone just cramming for the leaving? :pac:

No one in my school seems to have studied before the Easter holidays and now we're all trying to cover the English and geography course like mad :pac:

Most of my friends did a good bit over Easter apparently. The lad on the Pat Kenny show said to do ten 6 hour days (ie two schoolweeks), so I said grand, lads on the radio know their ****e.

Hotale.com wrote: »

I've neglected maths soooooo much! I got 50% in the pre (which was hard) and I kinda lulled myself into a false sense of security and haven't done anything since February I think most of maths is grand though in fairness, just need to study some of that dreadful calculus and coordinate geometry....

I was lulling off on the maths until we got new Educate.ie maths papers

7 sets of sample papers, it's great :pac:

Maths is so much easier for me to study than say, English or History because it requires so little thought, so I can feel like I'm doing a lot of work

Hotale.com wrote: »

I think I'll just give up on studying this weekend, I've just been feeling like crap and taking in nothing.

I feel the same, hence why I'm on Boards. I did an English Comparative question (Theme of Isolation), and now I feel so drained.

Calvin Leong wrote: »

Anyone have any clues on what to study for Macbeth?! Thinking Lady Macbeth will come up?

Mhmm Lady Macbeth seems to be pretty well tipped, I think I'll avoid her though.

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 4:55pm

Aspiring wrote: »

Is it better to do your poetry essay in English poem by poem (i.e. 1 poem per paragraph) or talk about several poems in one paragraph. I've always done it the first way but I noticed my poetry essay was my poorest mark on my mock, however it could have been because it was extremely rushed towards the end of the exam.

If you do it poem-by-poem you should really try to compare and contrast in each paragraph, so for example if you're talking about Dickinson and you're writing a paragraph about "I Felt a Funeral In My Brain" you might want to just write a few sentences showing how the idea of metal anguish and death are prevalent in both this and "I Heard a Fly Buzz When I Died", or any other poem that shares the theme. That's how I do it anyway :P

Aspiring · 18-05-2014 5:05pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

If you do it poem-by-poem you should really try to compare and contrast in each paragraph, so for example if you're talking about Dickinson and you're writing a paragraph about "I Felt a Funeral In My Brain" you might want to just write a few sentences showing how the idea of metal anguish and death are prevalent in both this and "I Heard a Fly Buzz When I Died", or any other poem that shares the theme. That's how I do it anyway :P

Yeah that's what I do.

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 5:08pm

Aspiring wrote: »

Yeah that's what I do.

You probably just ran out of time so, I got about 95% on my poetry essay for the mocks doing it that way.

robman60 · 18-05-2014 5:12pm

I always do each poem completely separately and then talk about an overall impact in my closing paragraph. I got 47/50 in my mock and 50/50 in a subsequent mock doing it that way. It's not like the comparative where you're constantly trying to make crappy comparisons, so I don't see why you'd approach it that way.

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 5:16pm

robman60 wrote: »

I always do each poem completely separately and then talk about an overall impact in my closing paragraph. I got 47/50 in my mock and 50/50 in a subsequent mock doing it that way. It's not like the comparative where you're constantly trying to make crappy comparisons, so I don't see why you'd approach it that way.

I thought English was one of those subjects where you never got full marks, like some parts of music and art..

Aspiring · 18-05-2014 5:18pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

You probably just ran out of time so, I got about 95% on my poetry essay for the mocks doing it that way.

In class homework/tests I usually get A2/A1 this way so probably the time thing or the examiner. He was fairly poor and it was quite evident that he rushed his way through it to get as many done as he could. But anyway, that won't happen in the real thing so I won't worry too much about it.

LoveLamps · 18-05-2014 5:51pm

Lads on my business mock there was an ABQ question on managent skills (which i got wrong as i mixed it up with activities!)
But it was 30 marks.. What mgt skills are there? Im struggling to find six.. I have:
Leadership
Motovation
Communication
Delegation
Resolving conflict

And im not even sure if the last two are mgt skills!! Gah

EDIT: come to think of it, maybe it was 2 bullets on leadership, motivation and communication...

thelad95 · 18-05-2014 6:01pm

LoveLamps wrote: »

Lads on my business mock there was an ABQ question on managent skills (which i got wrong as i mixed it up with activities!)
But it was 30 marks.. What mgt skills are there? Im struggling to find six.. I have:
Leadership
Motovation
Communication
Delegation
Resolving conflict

And im not even sure if the last two are mgt skills!! Gah

There are only three. Leading Motivating Communicating. Usually the marking scheme would be something like this:
State= 2 marks
Explain=3 + 2 marks
Link = 2 marks

I hate ABQ's though. They pretty much some up the wishy-washy nature of business.

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 6:20pm

My friend's friend is studying 8am-1pm, 2pm-6pm, and 7pm-10pm since he finished school last Wednesday.

Would you be f*cking bothered?

Lara_15 · 18-05-2014 6:20pm

Any accounting people have a solution for this years examcraft mock??
Can't get my service to balance

Aspiring · 18-05-2014 6:24pm

Lara_15 wrote: »

Any accounting people have a solution for this years examcraft mock??
Can't get my service to balance

Did DEB but you could post the question and we could all try it :P

MightyMandarin · 18-05-2014 6:25pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

My friend's friend is studying 8am-1pm, 2pm-6pm, and 7pm-10pm since he finished school last Wednesday.

Would you be f*cking bothered?

That is some serious desperation right there. Doubt most of it is productive though, 10hours of study a day is pretty much impossible I would've thought.

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 6:28pm

MightyMandarin wrote: »

That is some serious desperation right there. Doubt most of it is productive though, 10hours of study a day is pretty much impossible I would've thought.

Love the username :pac:

It's a bit of a joke really. He's a clever guy without study anyway, he could probably get away with half the study and come out with 550 points+.

I can hardly manage 3 hours without getting seriously distracted.

LoveLamps · 18-05-2014 6:38pm

How much study a day should we doin ? 6/7 hours ?? I mean when we get off from school

Kyro · 18-05-2014 6:38pm

Poliana.xo wrote: »

Accounting peoples, do you know if you lose marks in final accounts for not splitting your expenses into admin and selling&distribution in profit and loss? My teacher never told us to divide them, so just wondering does it matter?

Yes, you will lose marks for not having the headings and also if you put an expense under the wrong heading.

It's simple enough really to figure out which is which.

LoveLamps · 18-05-2014 6:39pm

thelad95 wrote: »

There are only three. Leading Motivating Communicating. Usually the marking scheme would be something like this:
State= 2 marks
Explain=3 + 2 marks
Link = 2 marks

I hate ABQ's though. They pretty much some up the wishy-washy nature of business.

Looking back at my mock, i got 10 marks for a single bullet point on delegation

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 6:41pm

LoveLamps wrote: »

How much study a day should we doin ? 6/7 hours ?? I mean when we get off from school

Depends really, I'll do about 4/5 I'd say. 3 hours of geography and an hour or two of some other subjects. I'm lucky though really, I've only 4 subjects I need to study because I do pass in Irish and French, and technology is the easiest subject ever. I just really have to go over the comparative for English as well so i don't feel like I'm under that much pressure.

Kyro · 18-05-2014 6:43pm

LoveLamps wrote: »

Looking back at my mock, i got 10 marks for a single bullet point on delegation

The ABQ is such a stupid question - I hate it. The only thing that I think could prevent me from getting an A1. Sometimes I've no idea what to say for it.

MightyMandarin · 18-05-2014 6:45pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

Love the username :pac:

It's a bit of a joke really. He's a clever guy without study anyway, he could probably get away with half the study and come out with 550 points+.

I can hardly manage 3 hours without getting seriously distracted.

I'm assuming he's aiming for a high points course. Some of my friends get ridiculous grades with very little study, one of them did a couple of hours for the mocks and got 615. They just happen to be 'mathsy' people and chose subjects that suited them perfectly (app maths, physics etc)

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 6:47pm

MightyMandarin wrote: »

I'm assuming he's aiming for a high points course. Some of my friends get ridiculous grades with very little study, one of them did a couple of hours for the mocks and got 615. They just happen to be 'mathsy' people and chose subjects that suited them perfectly (app maths, physics etc)

I think he needs 460 or something... I chose all the wrong subjects :pac:

Aspiring · 18-05-2014 6:50pm

There's really not that many mathsy subjects. You have to do a lot of theory based stuff for almost every subject, including the mathsy ones, with the exception of Applied Maths.

MrAweesome · 18-05-2014 6:51pm

Am i safe just doing - Theme and issue and Vision and Viewpoint?

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 6:54pm

MrAweesome wrote: »

Am i safe just doing - Theme and issue and Vision and Viewpoint?

Yes, one has to come up. Wouldn't hurt to do a third one though just in case it's a nice question.

Aspiring · 18-05-2014 6:55pm

MrAweesome wrote: »

Am i safe just doing - Theme and issue and Vision and Viewpoint?

If you do two your safe. There's only 3 on the curriculum for us so if you do 2 you're guaranteed at least one.

randylonghorn · 18-05-2014 7:10pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

... metal anguish ...

I think it's called "metal fatigue".

Sorry! >_>

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 7:12pm

randylonghorn wrote: »

I think it's called "metal fatigue".

Sorry! >_>

When on earth did I post metal anguish? :pac:

Edit: Ah, typo. :P

Double edit: Shut up Randy.

Daniel2590 · 18-05-2014 7:22pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

When on earth did I post metal anguish? :pac:

Edit: Ah, typo. :P

Double edit: Shut up Randy.

Yeah shut up Randy we're under enough pressure without you being a Grammar Nazi :pac:

Aspiring · 18-05-2014 7:29pm

Sum peeple have the wurst grammer

Peregrine · 18-05-2014 7:30pm

Daniel2590 wrote: »

Yeah shut up Randy we're under enough pressure without you being a Grammar Nazi :pac:

Paraphrasing someone from AH here but randy is a Grammar Commie. Grammar for the people, he says.

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 7:32pm

Aspiring wrote: »

Sum peeple have the wurst grammer

Sausage grammar?

I couldn't stop laughing when I found out that the person who won Eurovison's translated name was "Pussy Sausage", I'm such a child :pac:

Aspiring · 18-05-2014 7:40pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

Sausage grammar?

I couldn't stop laughing when I found out that the person who won Eurovison's translated name was "Pussy Sausage", I'm such a child :pac:

Yeah sorry was trying to do my best at having extremely poor grammar.

Ironic really about its name.

Endless Euphoria · 18-05-2014 8:33pm

Have any of you guys used study drugs? I hear they're pretty useful and I think you can get them online (might be a scam though)

LoveLamps · 18-05-2014 8:37pm

Endless Euphoria wrote: »

Have any of you guys used study drugs? I hear they're pretty useful and I think you can get them online (might be a scam though)

Sounds like something to stay well away of!!
Although I do believr cocaine increases your productivity

Endless Euphoria · 18-05-2014 8:39pm

little sis... wrote: »

Doing well in the leaving cert isn't just about being a genius and studying everything on the course.

It isn't, because you can easily do very well in the leaving cert (550+) if you work consistently and just do the study. Knowledge and intelligence are two separate entities.

Kyro · 18-05-2014 8:40pm

Endless Euphoria wrote: »

Have any of you guys used study drugs? I hear they're pretty useful and I think you can get them online (might be a scam though)

I was watching a documentary about steroids before and they were mentioned. It was interesting.

oncex · 18-05-2014 8:48pm

guys in the Biology isolation of Dna experiment, why is protease enzyme used?

oncex · 18-05-2014 8:51pm

oncex wrote: »

guys in the Biology isolation of Dna experiment, why is protease enzyme used?

Also if asked "What plant tissue did you use?"
The onion is the plant, whats the answer?

aleatorio · 18-05-2014 8:54pm

oncex wrote: »

Also if asked "What plant tissue did you use?"
The onion is the plant, whats the answer?

DNA is wrapped around 'spools' of protein called histones, so the protease is used to unwind the protein, but I think it would be ok just to say that it's needed cos DNA contains protein :P

Onion should be ok to say I think?

AtomicKoala · 18-05-2014 9:17pm

LoveLamps wrote: »

How much study a day should we doin ? 6/7 hours ?? I mean when we get off from school

Yeah I suppose that's reasonable right? I did 7 today but it was mostly just exam questions, I didn't learn much and feel drained - mentally, I'm not actually tired at all :pac:

MightyMandarin wrote: »

That is some serious desperation right there. Doubt most of it is productive though, 10hours of study a day is pretty much impossible I would've thought.

I managed 9 and a half hours once. I'd usually keep it below 7 hours a day though.

thelad95 wrote: »

I hate ABQ's though. They pretty much some up the wishy-washy nature of business.

Business looks like one of the most depressing subjects on the LC course. I'd die doing it - yet most of my year does it.

Hotale.com · 18-05-2014 9:22pm

Endless Euphoria wrote: »

Have any of you guys used study drugs? I hear they're pretty useful and I think you can get them online (might be a scam though)

Wouldn't go near them...

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