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General FPL Chat 2015/16

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    #32
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    This is extremely good from 'Portsmouth Bubblejet' on Fantasy Football Scout:

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/06/18/the-numbers-game-201415-review-leicester/
    Just like last year, I've designed a home/away FPL fixture rotation spreadsheet for each club for the new 2015-16 season. It doesn't take degree of difficulty for each match into account, and should therefore be used in combination with the FFS season ticker. The Dropbox link is below if you wish to download it.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/uw0u12pfy53hqca/FPL%20Home%20Away%20Rotation%202015-16.xlsx?dl=0

    Unlike many European leagues, where the fixtures are divided into 2 equal halves which are reversed after the winter break, the Premier League fixture compilers have stuck to their usual practice of splitting the calendar into a number of short rotational blocks.

    During each block, the 20 clubs are split into two groups of ten teams – let’s call them Group A and Group B. For the duration of the fixture block, teams from Group A will always play against a team from Group B, but never against another team from Group A. When a new rotational block starts, the two groups are mixed up, so that each club gets the opportunity to play all 19 others home and away.

    In 2015-16, there are 10 fixture blocks of varying length. They take place in gameweeks 1-2, 3-6, 7-8, 9-13, 14-17, 18-25, 26-27, 28-32, 33-34 and 35-38.

    It is therefore the lengthiest blocks (GW 18-25) that will allow us to set up some potentially fruitful team rotations.

    The inclusion of rotation blocks of odd-numbered length (GW 9-13 & GW 28-32) means that some teams have a distinct imbalance in the number of home and away matches around this period. In other words:

    – Man City & Crystal Palace play 5 out of 7 matches at home between GW 8 & GW 14

    – Man United & Stoke play 5 out of 7 matches away between GW 8 & GW 14

    – Liverpool & West Ham play 5 out of 7 matches at home in gameweeks 27-33

    – Chelsea & Everton play 5 out of 7 matches away in gameweeks 27-33

    Each club has one team with whom they always rotate. Some pairs are allocated due to close geographical proximity, which might cause policing problems, but others are allocated in order to avoid clashes in other tiers of the English football pyramid.

    Here are the main home/away rotational patterns for each Premier League club.

    Arsenal
    Perfect H/A rotation: Tottenham (38 games)
    Good: Man City (34), Southampton (30), Liverpool (28)
    Poor: Man Utd (4), Norwich (8), Everton (10)

    Aston Villa
    Perfect H/A rotation: West Brom (38 games)
    Good: Everton (34), Watford (34), Man Utd (28)
    Poor: Bournemouth (4), Liverpool (4), Man City (10)

    Bournemouth
    Perfect H/A rotation: Watford (38 games)
    Good: West Brom (34), Everton (30)
    Poor: Aston Villa (4), Liverpool (8)

    Chelsea
    Perfect H/A rotation: West Ham (38 games)
    Good: Leicester (34), Sunderland (34), Norwich (30)
    Poor: Newcastle (4), Swansea (4), Southampton (8)

    Crystal Palace
    Perfect H/A rotation: Stoke (38 games)
    Good: Newcastle (28)
    Poor: Sunderland (10)

    Everton
    Perfect H/A rotation: Liverpool (38 games)
    Good: Aston Villa (34), Bournemouth (30), Tottenham (28)
    Poor: West Brom (4), Watford (8), Arsenal (10)

    Leicester
    Perfect H/A rotation: Swansea (38 games)
    Good: Chelsea (34), Southampton (34), Man City (30)
    Poor: Norwich (4), West Ham (4), Man Utd (8)

    Liverpool
    Perfect H/A rotation: Everton (38 games)
    Good: West Brom (34), Watford (30), Arsenal (28)
    Poor: Aston Villa (4), Bournemouth (8), Tottenham (10)

    Man City
    Perfect H/A rotation: Man Utd (38 games)
    Good: Arsenal (34), Leicester (30), West Brom (28)
    Poor: Tottenham (4), Swansea (8), Aston Villa (10)

    Man Utd
    Perfect H/A rotation: Man City (38 games)
    Good: Tottenham (34), Swansea (30), Aston Villa (28)
    Poor: Arsenal (4), Leicester (8), West Brom (10)

    Newcastle
    Perfect H/A rotation: Sunderland (38 games)
    Good: Norwich (34), West Ham (34), Crystal Palace (28)
    Poor: Chelsea (4), Southampton (4), Stoke (10)

    Norwich
    Perfect H/A rotation: Southampton (38 games)
    Good: Newcastle (34), Swansea (34), Chelsea (30), Tottenham (30)
    Poor: Leicester (4), Sunderland (4), Arsenal (8), West Ham (8)

    Southampton
    Perfect H/A rotation: Norwich (38 games)
    Good: Leicester (34), Sunderland (34), Arsenal (30), West Ham (30)
    Poor: Newcastle (4), Swansea (4), Tottenham (8), Chelsea (8)

    Stoke City
    Perfect H/A rotation: Crystal Palace (38 games)
    Good: Sunderland (28)
    Poor: Newcastle (10)

    Sunderland
    Perfect H/A rotation: Newcastle (38 games)
    Good: Chelsea (34), Southampton (34), Stoke (28)
    Poor: Norwich (4), West Ham (4), Crystal Palace (10)

    Swansea
    Perfect H/A rotation: Leicester (38 games)
    Good: Norwich (34), West Ham (34), Man Utd (30)
    Poor: Chelsea (4), Southampton (4), Man City (8)

    Tottenham
    Perfect H/A rotation: Arsenal (38 games)
    Good: Man Utd (34), Norwich (30), Everton (28)
    Poor: Man City (4), Southampton (8), Liverpool (10)

    Watford
    Perfect H/A rotation: Bournemouth (38 games)
    Good: Aston Villa (34), Liverpool (30)
    Poor: West Brom (4), Everton (8)

    West Brom
    Perfect H/A rotation: Aston Villa (38 games)
    Good: Bournemouth (34), Liverpool (34), Man City (28)
    Poor: Everton (4), Watford (4), Man Utd (10)

    West Ham
    Perfect H/A rotation: Chelsea (38 games)
    Good: Newcastle (34), Swansea (34), Southampton (30)
    Poor: Leicester (4), Sunderland (4), Norwich (8)


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    #33
    Lemlin
    Registered Users Posts: 22,249 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    My defence I reckon will be:

    WBA, WBA
    WBA, Swansea, Leicester, Sunderland, Saints/Stoke.


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    #34
    FHFC
    Registered Users Posts: 11,271 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Lemlin wrote: »
    My defence I reckon will be:

    WBA, WBA
    WBA, Swansea, Leicester, Sunderland, Saints/Stoke.

    I'm all for cheap but would like to have one Premium side (probably Chelsea) in there with the 5th def being a 4m who will rarely play. Will depend on what that 2m+ could do elsewhere.

    Ideally I'd be looking at

    WBA, WBA
    WBA, Sunderland, Saints, Chelsea, 4m playing bench fodder.


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    #35
    F1ngers
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,278 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Lemlin wrote: »
    My defence I reckon will be:

    WBA, WBA
    WBA, Swansea, Leicester, Sunderland, Saints/Stoke.

    Saw a tweet earlier, NOR/SOU rotation: CRY, EVE, STK, NOR, BOU, MUN, SWA, LEI, LEI, WBA, BOU, sun, STK, ARS, ASV, cry, TOT, whu.


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    #36
    Iused2likebusts
    Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Southampton defs will be far from cheap this year 5.5 I'd say. I'll be steering clear especially that they have Europa league aswell.


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    #37
    spock.
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    I'll be going with the west brom keepers aswell.

    I'm undecided if I'll have Ivanovic in my gw1 team though. If Chelsea play like the did at the start of last season it would be a no brainer as he could easily repeat his goalscoring record.
    If they play tight though he probably won't be worth the money. Hopefully the community shield gives us an idea of how they will play.


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    #38
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    F1ngers wrote: »
    Saw a tweet earlier, NOR/SOU rotation: CRY, EVE, STK, NOR, BOU, MUN, SWA, LEI, LEI, WBA, BOU, sun, STK, ARS, ASV, cry, TOT, whu.

    It's a cracking rotation but the only thing is, for the price that Southampton defenders are going to be, you can't really afford to have one tied up on your bench every 2nd week.


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    #39
    Lemlin
    Registered Users Posts: 22,249 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    spock. wrote: »
    I'll be going with the west brom keepers aswell.

    I'm undecided if I'll have Ivanovic in my gw1 team though. If Chelsea play like the did at the start of last season it would be a no brainer as he could easily repeat his goalscoring record.
    If they play tight though he probably won't be worth the money. Hopefully the community shield gives us an idea of how they will play.

    Ivanovic goes through a patch every season where he'll get a few goals/assists in 4 or 5 games. Two years ago I managed to get him in for it (was around end of January/February) but last season I missed it.

    The key is getting him during that purple patch.

    Re Norwich, I'll be keeping an eye on another former Blackburn stalwart, Martin Olsson. The only thing is Norwich were brutal for clean sheets two seasons ago in the PL and have largely the same defence.


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    #40
    manual_man
    Registered Users Posts: 15,262 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    I fancy some defenders from top 4 sides. Currently I'm thinking Bellerin & Smalling, both should come in around 5.5. After that cheap and cheerful, should be plenty of options to choose from, keeper strategy I'm not sure tho!


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    #41
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Sunderland and Stoke rotate perfectly for 8 of the first 10 weeks.

    I know Stoke aren't great in terms of fantasy football at the back, but a few of us had a bit of success with the Swansea/Stoke similar rotation at the beginning of last year (well, it was almost all Swansea, but the excellent rotation helped to make my decision to go for them :pac:) so hopefully this rotation might have a similar impact. It was a bit of a nightmare predicting who would start in the Stoke back 4 but should be easier this year.

    The rotation gives the following fixtures for the first few weeks:

    LIV/lei, NOR, SWA, WBA, TOT, LEI, BOUR, WHU, wba/swa, WATF/NEW

    They start to clash a bit in terms of both having home/away games a lot more after that for a while, but if we can get a Stoke defender in for £4.5m that's a pretty tasty and cheap rotation to start off with while we see how things develop and would go along way to allowing a premium defender (i.e. Chelsea).

    I'm almost convinced Pantilimon will be priced at £5m so with that in mind hopefully Foster will be £4.5m. That'd 1) make my choice between Sunderland and West Brom GK's much easier and 2) ensure that GK can be sorted out with £9m. If that happens, I'm looking at the following:

    Foster/Myhill (or any £4m if Myhill is £4.5m)

    Chelsea/WBA/Sunderland/Stoke/Bournemouth or Norwich

    My WBA/Sunderland/Stoke defenders will all be £4.5m or if not I'll look elsewhere. I know Bournemouth or Norwich aren't likely to keep clean sheets but as a 5th defender they look alright considering the fixtures. We'll hopefully sneak a £4m out of Bournemouth though which would swing it. So that's a GK and full defence for around £33m presumably.


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    #42
    Swiper the fox
    Registered Users Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭Swiper the fox


    Why do we think that all the West Brom defenders from last season won't be priced at 5m? Do they only take the full season stats etc into account.
    Brunt will surely be classified as a defender now as well right?? He'll be value even at 5.5m


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    #43
    Ziegler1988
    Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    Swiper the fox wrote: »
    Why do we think that all the West Brom defenders from last season won't be priced at 5m? Do they only take the full season stats etc into account.
    Brunt will surely be classified as a defender now as well right?? He'll be value even at 5.5m

    I think all the starters will be 5m, including Myhill unless Foster is less than a month from recovery. Brunt didn't play in defence the last month of the season though, Olsson came in to the back four.


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    #44
    FHFC
    Registered Users Posts: 11,271 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Ziegler1988 wrote: »
    I think all the starters will be 5m, including Myhill unless Foster is less than a month from recovery. Brunt didn't play in defence the last month of the season though, Olsson came in to the back four.

    Yeah can't see Foster being 4.5

    I wonder will there be any 4m starters this year. Very very few last season at the start. Duff, Hutton and for a while Moore are all i can remember.


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    #45
    Ziegler1988
    Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    FHFC wrote: »
    Yeah can't see Foster being 4.5

    I wonder will there be any 4m starters this year. Very very few last season at the start. Duff, Hutton and for a while Moore are all i can remember.

    Wisdom as well. We might get lucky with a 4m loan signing again, maybe Yedlin at Spurs


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    #46
    manual_man
    Registered Users Posts: 15,262 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Alderweireld evens on skybet to move to Spurs


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    #47
    CSF
    Registered Users Posts: 32,918 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    manual_man wrote: »
    Alderweireld evens on skybet to move to Spurs

    Was looking at those odds, found it strange that they only had English clubs in the market.


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    #48
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Cech to Arsenal is done per the Mail and others, £11m the reported fee.

    Bournemouth have signed Distin.


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    #49
    Ziegler1988
    Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    Southampton FC ‏@SouthamptonFC 3m3 minutes ago
    CONFIRMED: #SaintsFC have completed the signing of Dutch goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg on a season-long loan.


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    #50
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Ziegler1988 wrote: »
    Southampton FC ‏@SouthamptonFC 3m3 minutes ago
    CONFIRMED: #SaintsFC have completed the signing of Dutch goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg on a season-long loan.

    Will Forster make the the start of the season? Stekelenburg could be an option if he misses a few games.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #51
    Ziegler1988
    Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Will Forster make the the start of the season? Stekelenburg could be an option if he misses a few games.

    I think Forster is supposed to be out until 2016


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    #52
    manual_man
    Registered Users Posts: 15,262 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    CSF wrote: »
    Was looking at those odds, found it strange that they only had English clubs in the market.

    maybe he's instructed his agent he only wants to play in the PL. Saints def's are likely to be pricey this time round in fpl, if Alder isn't with them any more, and Clyne set to leave too, i may well steer clear starting off
    Paully D wrote: »
    Cech to Arsenal is done per the Mail and others, £11m the reported fee.

    Top signing for Arsenal. Will absolutely have Arsenal def cover GW1


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    #53
    Bleating Lamb
    Registered Users Posts: 4,562 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    First time to check in this year...even though tis only June....,said it to the missus and she sighed and said 'its happy for ye men'...:)


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    #54
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    As a United fan hopefully at decent prices.

    Herrera scored 6 league goals this season the majority in the second half of the season when made first choice. He is very clinical when he gets a chance. Depending on signings he should be first choice and hopefully around 6.5.

    Smalling was brilliant last season and is first choice for United next season he also had a purple patch scoring a few goals in a row and scored 4 league goals last season. If he comes in around 5.5 he could be decent value.

    Henderson's return for Liverpool was very good last season also and he should be on penalties and probably free kicks next season and hopefully around 7.0 he could be value.


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    #55
    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Nuts102 wrote: »
    As a United fan hopefully at decent prices.

    Herrera scored 6 league goals this season the majority in the second half of the season when made first choice. He is very clinical when he gets a chance. Depending on signings he should be first choice and hopefully around 6.5.

    Smalling was brilliant last season and is first choice for United next season he also had a purple patch scoring a few goals in a row and scored 4 league goals last season. If he comes in around 5.5 he could be decent value.

    Henderson's return for Liverpool was very good last season also and he should be on penalties and probably free kicks next season and hopefully around 7.0 he could be value.

    I think Henderson will be 8.0-8.5. They'll have factored in the above.


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    #56
    FHFC
    Registered Users Posts: 11,271 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Nice article from www.fantasyfootballgeek, a good little blog site I've mentioned before and was the first decent FPL resource I found this time two years ago.

    http://www.fantasyfootballgeek.co.uk/fantasy-premier-league-strategy-review/

    A good overview on the basic principles of strategy approaches to the FPL game if you're a newbie, or even an oldie. Agree with most of his points, although I'm partial to a hit and am a confirmed team value hound. But I'll be playing my captain much more conservatively this year, some daft punts last season.....Balotelli, Jovetic, fupping Adebayor.!!! Not to mention the biggest most useless Italian of questionable parentage...uuggghh.


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    #57
    Mr.Prodston
    Registered Users Posts: 16,304 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    FHFC wrote: »
    But I'll be playing my captain much more conservatively this year, some daft punts last season.....Balotelli, Jovetic, fupping Adebayor.!!! Not to mention the biggest most useless Italian of questionable parentage...uuggghh.

    Ahem.

    Has PVA not stuck in your mind? :cool:


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    #58
    FHFC
    Registered Users Posts: 11,271 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Mr.Prodston wrote: »
    Ahem.

    Has PVA not stuck in your mind? :cool:

    Was happy to leave you to go solo on that one. :)

    Our Jovetic collaboration didn't bode well.

    Pelle and Adebayor stick in my mind much more and did a hell of a lot more damage than not captaining PVA!


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    #59
    Ziegler1988
    Registered Users Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    FPL Discovery has some reviews of the season up if anyone wants to go deep inside the stats. The one guy that didn't own Kane at all is an Arsenal supporter that has a rule not to pick Spurs. Just imagine where he would be if he did and how badly he got stung during Bale's heyday :pac:


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    #60
    CSF
    Registered Users Posts: 32,918 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Such a stupid way to play the game.


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    #61
    spock.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,502 ✭✭✭spock.


    Firmino signs for Liverpool.

    Hopefully he is down as a midfielder as he could become a good OOP option then. I've been watching him in the Copa and he's looked dangerous.


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