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Unlimited breaking of Language

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  • 03-06-2010 2:57pm
    #1
    watty
    Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭


    It appears that Imagine's "Unlimited" WiMax is a 30Gbyte Cap.

    Now we have Vodafone selling Unlimited Mobile?
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66211568&postcount=1

    Also 3 claiming up to 42Mbps on 3G and "suggesting" that iHSPA is somehow LTE

    I thought 2 years or more ago ASAI and Comreg were going to sort this. I saw the questionnaire Sent to Digweb at the time


    What is happening?


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    clohamon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭clohamon


    watty wrote: »


    What is happening?

    Limited = Unlimited
    Information about Fair Usage
    A number of telephone and broadband packages being offered are described as ‘unlimited’. In this context the word ‘unlimited’ would normally be taken to mean that a subscriber, having agreed to pay a set price, may make as many calls or spend as much time online as he or she wishes. However, some service contracts qualify the meaning of ‘unlimited’ by stating that it is subject to an ‘acceptable’ or ‘fair’ level of use by the subscriber. This is referred to as a “fair usage policy” in some advertising.

    ComReg would like to advise consumers that any provision of a contract which sets usage thresholds, or describes what constitutes ‘fair’ or ‘acceptable’ use, should be clear and unambiguous, particularly where the service is described as being ‘unlimited’.

    Usage thresholds or limits should be clearly set out, as should the manner in which they may be updated or amended.

    ComReg expects each service provider to implement a clear, transparent and policy for dealing with customer usage above any set thresholds. The policy should set out the rules for contract termination, including penalties, the charges that shall apply for any use above the threshold/limit, and the policy regarding migration of the customer to other packages, if applicable.

    ComReg advises consumers to carefully read the terms and conditions of their contracts and to be aware of the particular limits or thresholds that apply before purchasing.

    http://www.askcomreg.ie/business/accessing_the_internet.346.LE.asp


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    watty
    Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Comreg are a REGULATOR.

    They can enforce the NORMAL and expected usage of the English Language as used by Telecom Marketing.

    Unlimited: With out a bound or limit.

    Up to 42Mbps: Expectation that it is the peak and you get close to it. Not that you typically get 1/20th or 1/40th and could always have 1/100th.

    Maybe Comreg are just a revenue Gatherer, not a regulator. What is the logic of €1,200 p.a. spectrum licence @ 7GHz or higher for a 155Mbps link? How does that help grow national infrastructure? Point to Point Microwave links should cost about €50 to licence. There is hardly likely a shortage of spectrum (as they are narrow beams and same channels can be reused). A country the size of Ireland can maintain and process the licences with one person and Excel. (Or cheaper is a decent SQL server with Web Interface people can buy online like ordering from Tesco.)


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    thebman
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    It definitely needs to be cleaned up if 30GB is being advertised as unlimited that is ridiculous.

    30GB isn't even remotely unlimited.


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    #5
    watty
    Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    0.25M bps continious transfer (125kbps up + 125kbps down) 24hrs x 30days is over 300Gbyte.

    FM Radio quality audio needs 192kbps MP3.

    at Rubbish 64kbps download only, you can listen to about 10hrs a day of Internet Radio.

    I call "unlimited", unlimited. On 2.5Mbps circuit 300Gbyte is only 3 days, so even 300GByte is not "unlimited". On a average 2.5Mbps speed, 3 Tera bytes is pretty much "unlimited".

    They absolutely need a cap because it's wireless. Probably about 10Gbyte. I don't object to the Cap, I object to misleading marketing.


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