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CO2 emissions for a Nissan Figaro

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  • 16-07-2008 12:10pm
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    vox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭


    Would appreciate some help on this... Anyone know where I can find appropriate documentation printout for CO2 emissions to satisfy VRT?

    I have read that is is in the lowest category but cnnot find any figures.


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    mcwhirter
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    I found this on the net, hope it helps.


    Nissan have never quoted a CO2 figure for the Figaro - there was no requirement to do this in 1991.

    CO2 emission isn't measured - it's calculated from fuel economy

    1 litre of petrol produces 2.30 Kg CO2

    The overall fuel efficency of the Figaro has been quoted as 7.4 litres / 100 kM. (this reference would need verifying as official)

    7.4 litres / 100Km = 0.074 litres /km

    Therefore CO2 produced is .074 X 2.3 = 170 gms /Km

    By comparison - best in class eg Toyota Prius is around 110gms / km whilst the latest Micra 1.2 Auto almost matches the Figaro at 160 gm / km

    The bottom line is what will the Commissioners accept or not accept in terms of supporting data!


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    cbyrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭cbyrne


    Has anyone VRt'd a figaro since the changes, I've been trying to find this out to, would VRT office (if they answered phones) resolve this over the phone I wonder?


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    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    Strictly speaking though, if they are anything like my '90 Micra, these cars may not have a catalytic converter fitted to them, so therefore there would be virtually no CO2 coming out of the exhaust (there would however be carbon monoxide and nitrogen oxide coming out of the exhaust, but that's another matter...)


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    vox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭vox


    As it seems there is no official CO2 documentation.. to vrt a Figaro you are talking 36% VRT approx €3400... Could be wrong though.


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    cbyrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭cbyrne


    yeah thats what I thought, which is cruel on a 1.0 litre engine.. they are expensive enough for what they are never mind the top rate VRT on top of them.


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    hi_im_fil
    Registered Users Posts: 889 ✭✭✭hi_im_fil


    Theres some part of the vrt website saying if you have official documentation of the car's mpg, they apply a multiplier to get the car's co2 emissions...

    I'll try find a link

    http://octane.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=17920


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    mcwhirter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    vox wrote: »
    As it seems there is no official CO2 documentation.. to vrt a Figaro you are talking 36% VRT approx €3400... Could be wrong though.


    As I was saying if you work out the official mpg then you will get the co2. Do a search for nissan figaro mpg etc


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    mcwhirter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    http://www.algysautos.com/figaro_technical.html

    Check out this link it has the mpg. Add the 2 figure together and divide by 2. That is your average mpg you can use in calculation on revenue.ie site


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    ismynametoolong
    Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭ismynametoolong


    cbyrne wrote: »
    yeah thats what I thought, which is cruel on a 1.0 litre engine.. they are expensive enough for what they are never mind the top rate VRT on top of them.

    Well thats the only good thing to come out of the co2 changes it will stop the dumping of non certified and polluting cars in our market


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    2 Espressi
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    you've confused VRT and the NCT there I think. How is this more polluting than any other one litre Micra of a similar age?


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    vox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭vox


    hi_im_fil wrote: »
    Theres some part of the vrt website saying if you have official documentation of the car's mpg, they apply a multiplier to get the car's co2 emissions...

    I'll try find a link

    mcwhirter Quote:
    Originally Posted by vox
    As it seems there is no official CO2 documentation.. to vrt a Figaro you are talking 36% VRT approx €3400... Could be wrong though.


    As I was saying if you work out the official mpg then you will get the co2. Do a search for nissan figaro mpg etc

    The problem would be finding an official MPG figure if there is no handbook with the car.

    This is from WIKIPEDIA:
    Fuel Economy: 7.4 l/100km (38.1 imp. mpg/ 32 US mpg)
    Fuel consumption rate: 60 km/h running, on level ground: 4.1 l/100km (68.9 imp. mpg / 57.6 US mpg)

    Should I be looking at Economy or Consuption?


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    hi_im_fil
    Registered Users Posts: 889 ✭✭✭hi_im_fil


    2 Espressi wrote: »
    you've confused VRT and the NCT there I think. How is this more polluting than any other one litre Micra of a similar age?

    This car has a turbo I think. Cars with different weights but which have the same engine can have different mpg figures too.

    OP Sometimes the mpg figure is stated in the owners manual if you have that?


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    vox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭vox


    Nope! Havent actually bought on yet. Am on the lookout and will most likely import it.. I will do my best to confirm if the owners manual will have it... and if that is acceptable.

    Original manuals seem to be in japaneese.. That will not help!


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    ismynametoolong
    Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭ismynametoolong


    2 Espressi wrote: »
    you've confused VRT and the NCT there I think. How is this more polluting than any other one litre Micra of a similar age?

    I dont think so why should a car designed for the domestic Japanese market
    that has reached the end of its life there be permitted to be registered
    in this market when it does not comply with any European emission standards. The equivalent cars here are probably as you say similar but there is one difference they are already here why should we invite older more polluting cars into our market , The only reason they are allowed in in the first place is beacuse we have no SVA approval system here so you can register anything you want as long as you trump up the VRT.


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    vox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭vox


    ismynametoolong wrote: »
    I dont think so why should a car designed for the domestic Japanese market
    that has reached the end of its life there be permitted to be registered
    in this market when it does not comply with any European emission standards. The equivalent cars here are probably as you say similar but there is one difference they are already here why should we invite older more polluting cars into our market , The only reason they are allowed in in the first place is beacuse we have no SVA approval system here so you can register anything you want as long as you trump up the VRT.

    Not a fan? I am looking for a way to calculate the emissions to enable me to pay the appropriate amount of VRT and not weather you think the are roadworthy...


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    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    ismynametoolong wrote: »
    I dont think so why should a car designed for the domestic Japanese market
    that has reached the end of its life there be permitted to be registered
    in this market when it does not comply with any European emission standards. The equivalent cars here are probably as you say similar but there is one difference they are already here why should we invite older more polluting cars into our market , The only reason they are allowed in in the first place is beacuse we have no SVA approval system here so you can register anything you want as long as you trump up the VRT.

    Someone had an unreliable JDM car in their past...


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    cormac_byrne
    Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭cormac_byrne


    There's at least one company specialising in importing Figaros, I just looked at David Golding's site to see if there was any info

    see: http://www.southdublinfigaros.com/page9.htm
    which says as already posted here that without documentation you pay 36% VRT.

    Maybe he has more up to date info than on the website,
    possibly has found some acceptable documentation to get a C02 figure.

    Maybe he (or another dealer) registered a few before the deadline.


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    ismynametoolong
    Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭ismynametoolong


    vox wrote: »
    Not a fan? I am looking for a way to calculate the emissions to enable me to pay the appropriate amount of VRT and not weather you think the are roadworthy...

    You cant calculate the the figure nor will you be able to obtain a certified figure for any Japanes domestic model as they do not produce CO2 figures for any domestic cars even new ones. Their taxation & emissions are based on the fuel economy figures. My understanding of the new system here is that if you cant verify the CO2 figure by means of a ( COC ) certificate of Conformity then the car will default to the highest rate of VRT and rightly so.


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    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,961 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    ismynametoolong wrote: »
    if you cant verify the CO2 figure by means of a ( COC ) certificate of Conformity then the car will default to the highest rate of VRT and rightly so.

    Not so. Several sources are allowed to verify the CO2 figure. See the first post in the VRT sticky on top of the forum...


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