Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours

yabadabado · 11-11-2011 10:46am

Oatesy23 wrote: »

http://www.euro-soccerjerseys.co.uk/ireland-11-12-away-soccer-jerseys-p-4669.html

Customs have been going after the fakes coming in from Asia recently. So it might not get through.

That's d first time I have seen the Irish jerseys on them sites.I have bought a jerseys from Asia and they have been sound.If we get to the euros I could see plenty of the sites selling the Irish jersey ,when there is a higher demand for them.

POKERKING · 11-11-2011 10:58am

I wonder if you put a bulk order in with the sites that do the identical fakes would they be able to do it without the sponsor? could get them sent to the north in a box and then dish them out down south(a group of us from boards doing somethin similar see the online shop thread in soccer forum) would be great if it worked out...

bohsfan · 11-11-2011 11:06am

I was in the FAI shop last night and the only jersey that didnt have the sponsor on was a special edition one to celebrate Robbie getting to 50 goals.

It had Macedonia -v- Ireland embroidered under the crest and had the number 50 on the front with 10 on the back. Didn't check the price, although it was probably 60+

I picked up the white Ireland Euro 1988 replica for 20 blips though

Raskolnikov · 11-11-2011 11:09am

Oatesy23 wrote: »

http://www.euro-soccerjerseys.co.uk/ireland-11-12-away-soccer-jerseys-p-4669.html

Customs have been going after the fakes coming in from Asia recently. So it might not get through.

Dancor · 11-11-2011 11:12am

They had them in 2009 I think for the last Eircom sponsered one.

Yoy could buy them with no sponser, I think they were in limeted supply, 500 or so. I got one and it will do me for years now.

yabadabado · 11-11-2011 11:44am

POKERKING wrote: »

I wonder if you put a bulk order in with the sites that do the identical fakes would they be able to do it without the sponsor? could get them sent to the north in a box and then dish them out down south(a group of us from boards doing somethin similar see the online shop thread in soccer forum) would be great if it worked out...

they will do them without the sponsor,you wouldnt need a bulk order.
I enquired with soccer triads before and they reckoned they would need an order of 500+ to make it worthwhile producing a jersey.It was on the the thread about online jerseys at the time.I think if we sent them enough enquires it might happen.
the company selling the 3rd shirt might do up the home kit considering it would be a bigger seller.

PARKHEAD67 · 11-11-2011 4:52pm

newballsplease wrote: »

wouldnt that have OPEL written on it?

No.I had an official Adidas Italia 90 top.Opel-less.

MyKeyG · 11-11-2011 5:56pm

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

No.I had an official Adidas Italia 90 top.Opel-less.

Opel-less??? A bit like the Irish team then ha ha ha ha...Christ I hope people get the joke.:(

Zebra3 · 11-11-2011 6:00pm

MyKeyG wrote: »

Opel-less??? A bit like the Irish team then ha ha ha ha...Christ I hope people get the joke.:(

That's terrible.

MyKeyG · 11-11-2011 6:11pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

That's terrible.

Taxi for Mikey:o

centre half · 12-11-2011 11:03am

Oatesy23 wrote: »

http://www.euro-soccerjerseys.co.uk/ireland-11-12-away-soccer-jerseys-p-4669.html

Customs have been going after the fakes coming in from Asia recently. So it might not get through.

I don't see the home one there, which is the one I really want

Ferris_Bueller · 12-11-2011 4:40pm

Hopefully not tempting fate by asking this with the second leg still to go, but lets face it, it would take a disaster of epic proportions not to qualify at this stage. So what is the squad Trap will bring with him, or what players do you think he should bring?

Presume it's a squad of 23 allowed to go, whereby 3 have to be goalkeepers. I would go with:

Goalkeepers
Shay Given
Keiren Westwood
David Forde

Defenders
John O'Shea
Richard Dunne
Sean St.Ledger
Stephen Ward
Stephen Kelly
Darren O'Dea
Marc Wilson
Ciaran Clark

Midfielders
Damien Duff
Glen Whelan
Keith Andrews
Aiden McGeady
Seamus Coleman
Keith Fahey
James McCarthy
Stephen Hunt

Forwards
Robbie Keane
Kevin Doyle
Shane Long
Jon Walters

Tough choice to pick the forwards, guys like Cox and Best would be in contention of course, but with only being allowed to bring 23, I'd imagine that Trap would bring 4 or 5 along with him. We all know Trap has his favourites too, so we may see players like McShane, Kilbane, Keogh and Foley make the squad. I personally would give at least one of Clark and Wilson the nod because of their versatility. Can't see the midfield looking much different from that, Gibson maybe to be included too, no doubt he should have a look at guys like Hoolahan, Pilkington, even guys like Meyler, McCann, Dicker one could argue should be in with a shout, but don't think Trap would bring players with such little international experience along.

Going to be a tough task to pick the squad when the time comes, hopefully we are injury free. Trap surly has to use the friendlies between now and June to look at some fringe players, and Brady said last night that he would fully expect him to.

Het-Field · 12-11-2011 4:48pm

My Preference(as of today)

1.Shay Given
2.John O'Shea
3.Stephen Ward
4.Richard Dunne
5.Sean St Ledger
6.Glenn Whelan
7.Aiden McGeady
8.Keith Andrews
9.Kevin Doyle
10.Robbie Keane
11.Damien Duff
12.Kieran Westwood
13.Stephen Kelly
14.Seamus Coleman
15.Mark Wilson
16.Joey O'Brien
17.Keith Fahey
18.Darren Gibson
19.James McCarthy
20.Jonathan Walters
21.Shane Long
22.Stephen Hunt
23.David Forde

Standby
24.Darren O'Dea
25.Ciaran Clark
26.Liam Lawrence
27.Kevin Kilbane
27.Simon Cox
28.Leon Best.

*I recognise that the list is not entirely realistic!

syngindub · 12-11-2011 4:59pm

Will Mr.Ireland try to wriggle his way into this?

Het-Field · 12-11-2011 5:06pm

syngindub wrote: »

Will Mr.Ireland try the wriggle his way into this?

If he does, he should be told to get lost. The man has lost the quality which was pumping through his veins when we were seeking his return in 2009.

I dont want him at the European Championships, and I dont want him to take the place of another player who has contributed to the Irish cause in the last 4 years.

Drummerboy2 · 12-11-2011 5:54pm

Very interesting selection of Joey O'Brien. I can see why, he can play right full, centre half and centre mid.

Personally I would try and get Paddy Kenny involved again.

Kevin Kilbane should be asked along as a non playing member of the squad. His influence on the squad would be an asset and lets go some way to repay the man for his wonderful service to the green shirt.

Dotrel · 12-11-2011 6:01pm

Here's the list of every player who was selected (either XI or bench for at least 1 game during the qualification campaign so far. I'm limiting my selection to them.

In the interest of simplicity and probably fairness I'd limit selection to players who actually did the work to get us there.

The number in brackets "( )" in the amount of onfield minutes they've put in during the campaign
===

GOALKEEPERS
1. Shay Given (900)
2. Keiren Westwood (90)
3. David Forde (0)
4. Joe Murphy (0)

DEFENDERS
5. Richard Dunne (810)
6. Sean St Ledger (720)
7. John O'Shea (705)
8. Kevin Kilbane (540)
9. Stephen Kelly (375)
10. Darren O'Dea (360)
11. Stephen Ward (360)
12. Kevin Foley (90)
13. Ciaran Clarke (0)
14. Damien Delaney (0)
15. Greg Cunningham (0)
16. Marc Wilson (0)
17. Paul Mc Shane (0)

MIDFIELDERS
18. Aidan Mc Geady (940)
19. Glen Whelan (885)
20. Keith Andrews (540)
21. Damien Duff (485)
22. Paul Green (312)
23. Liam Lawrence (241)
24. Darron Gibson (179)
25. Keith Fahey (176)
26. Steve Hunt (173)
27. James Mc Carthy (3)
28. Seamus Coleman (0)

FORWARDS
29. Robbie Keane (892)
30. Kevin Doyle (548)
31. Shane Long (234)
32. Simon Cox (208)
33. Jon Walters (93)
34. Andrew Keogh (31)
35. Cilian Sheridan (0)

=====

Personally I'd prefer an 3-7-8-5 squad so I'd start just chopping names off from the bottom. The only exceptions are the case of Paul Green who has put in a large number of minutes but is generally useless, never should have been capped to begin with and seems to thankfully have disappeared off the radar for good anyway. Forde has made the bench three times and Murphy just once so he clearly gets the choice as third goalie. So that leaves you with a final squad of ......

GOALKEEPERS
1. Shay Given (900)
2. Keiren Westwood (90)
3. David Forde (0)

DEFENDERS
4. Richard Dunne (810)
5. Sean St Ledger (720)
6. John O'Shea (705)
7. Kevin Kilbane (540)
8. Stephen Kelly (375)
9. Darren O'Dea (360)
10. Stephen Ward (360)

MIDFIELDERS
11. Aidan Mc Geady (940)
12. Glen Whelan (885)
13. Keith Andrews (540)
14. Damien Duff (485)
15. Liam Lawrence (241)
16. Darron Gibson (179)
17. Keith Fahey (176)
18. Steve Hunt (173)

FORWARDS
19. Robbie Keane (892)
20. Kevin Doyle (548)
21. Shane Long (234)
22. Simon Cox (208)
23. Jon Walters (93)

==

Some may question the absense of James McCarthy but frankly I reckon he can just shíte off back to Wigan for all I care. Go watch the matches in the pub with Stephen Ireland for all I care. As for Coleman he might set Goodison alight but he's clearly not convinced Trapp he's the right sort of player for Ireland yet so that's good enough for me.

legendary.xix · 12-11-2011 6:05pm

David Meyler hopefully will get a look in. He has been desperately unlucky with injuries over the last while. He was unfortunate to pick up a terrible injury only a few days after being called into the Ireland for friendlies in May/June 2010. He's been eased back into the Sunderland side of late. I firmly believe had he not picked up the injury, he could've forced his way into Trap's plans for this euro qualification campaign.

Amirani · 12-11-2011 6:06pm

Would be crazy to pick Meyler given his limited experience at international level IMO.

Eathrin · 12-11-2011 6:15pm

Dotrel wrote: »

Some may question the absense of James McCarthy but frankly I reckon he can just shíte off back to Wigan for all I care. Go watch the matches in the pub with Stephen Ireland for all I care. As for Coleman he might set Goodison alight but he's clearly not convinced Trapp he's the right sort of player for Ireland yet so that's good enough for me.

We have between now and the summer to prepare, of course we should be experimenting with the squad and trying to give guys like McCarthy, Coleman, Wilson, Cunningham, Clare, Brady, Hoolahan games.

legendary.xix · 12-11-2011 6:16pm

niallsparky wrote: »

Would be crazy to pick Meyler given his limited experience at international level IMO.

You sure? I'm sure if you take a little history at team/squad selections, you'll see players being brought without the relevance experience. If you are looking at a possible player to come into the Irish squad. Meyler will be one. He's got a good attitude. He's a good player. If he's injury free over the next few months, just wait and see.

Bounty Hunter · 12-11-2011 6:17pm

after some games to test out players further pre squad selection i'd optimistically hope for the following keeping in mind that under trap radical change wouldnt be expected.

GOALKEEPERS
1. Shay Given
2. Keiren Westwood
3. David Forde

DEFENDERS
4. Richard Dunne
5. Sean St Ledger
6. John O'Shea
7. Kevin Kilbane
8. Stephen Kelly
9. Darren O'Dea
10. Stephen Ward

MIDFIELDERS
11. Aidan Mc Geady
12. Glen Whelan
13. Keith Andrews
14. Damien Duff
15. Seamus Coleman
16. Darron Gibson / Meyler
17. James McCarthy
18. Steven Hunt

FORWARDS
19. Robbie Keane
20. Kevin Doyle
21. Shane Long
22. Simon Cox
23. Jon Walters

The team wouldnt see much change though imo

Given
O'Shea, Dunne, St Ledger, Ward
Duff, Andrews, Whelan, McGeady
R.Keane + 1

must say its nice how much genuine competition there is for the +1 CF spot atm

legendary.xix · 12-11-2011 6:17pm

Cian A wrote: »

We have between now and the summer to prepare, of course we should be experimenting with the squad and trying to give guys like McCarthy, Coleman, Wilson, Cunningham, Clare, Brady, Hoolahan games.

Will there be many friendly dates that will give players a chance?

Raskolnikov · 12-11-2011 6:18pm

niallsparky wrote: »

Would be crazy to pick Meyler given his limited experience at international level IMO.

Trap has stated on a few occasions that he likes Meyler and thinks he is the type of player who fits into our system. It was unfortunate that he got crocked when he did, because he definitely would have gotten game time for us.

Speaking of Meyler, he said that Fraizer Campbell is elligible for Ireland, tried to get him to declare for Ireland over Twitter - http://twitter.com/#!/DavidMeyler

Could have been taking the mickey though.

Mr. Guappa · 12-11-2011 6:53pm

The friendlies will be very important in determining who goes. Trap has shown that those who perform in friendlies (Cox) will be given a shot in the games that matter. We've got some versatile fringe players in the likes of Coleman, Wilson and Keogh, which could be a useful attribute if your trying to squeeze in a fifth striker.

BOHtox · 12-11-2011 7:12pm

Given, Westwood,
Kelly, Dunne, O'shea, St Ledger, Clark, Ward
McGeady, Duff, Whelan, Gibson, Andrews, Fahey, Hunt
Keane, Doyle, Long, Walters

These, to me, are a definite 19. There's plenty of friendles between now and then that we can use to add to the squad. I think you need three goalkeepers so I'd imagine Forde, Joe Murphy and Brian Murphy will get time during the friendlies to impress.

I'm not too sure what else we need in defence. O'Shea and Kelly can play right back. Dunne, O'shea, Ledger and Clark can play centre and Ward and Clark can play left. Maybe, as there's no midfielders I'd play as defenders, I'd call up either a natural left or right back. Players like Foley, Cunningham or Kilbane, whose experience and versatility could be priceless in the tournament.

In the midfield I think I'd keep it pretty much the way Trap likes it. Andrews and Whelan and if we need a goal bring on Fahey. Perhaps for versatility I'd call up Coleman but I also think Hoolahan and Pilkington should get a look in.

I've always been a fan of 5 strikers in a tournament. I know some only bring 4 but 5 covers you. Best, Cox and Stokes could all be added to the squad.

Overall most players in the squad are quite versatile with only a few being stuck to one position. I think we'll be okay in terms of depth because of this. I reckon Trap has something similar to this already done and is just waiting to add the final 5,6,7 or whatever's left on his list. He'll be travelling all over England watching our lads in the new year that's for sure.

Helix · 12-11-2011 7:22pm

syngindub wrote: »

Will Mr.Ireland try to wriggle his way into this?

why would he? he's made it pretty clear he has no intention of playing international football for ireland

leposean · 13-11-2011 12:34am

1.Shay Given
2.Sean St LEdger
3.Stephen Ward
4.John O'Shea
5.Richard Dunne
6.Glen Whelan
7.Aidan McGeady
8.Keith Andrews
9.Kevin Doyle
10.Robbie Keane
11.Damien Duff
12.Stephen Kelly
13.James McCarthy
14.Darren O'Dea
15.Stephen Hunt
16.Kieran Westwood
17.Liam Lawerence
18.Shane Long
19.Jonathan Walters
20.Simon Cox
21.Keith Fahey
22.Paddy Kenny
23.Kevin Foley

tonycascarino · 13-11-2011 1:21am

As long as McShane, Delaney, Green, Kilbane and Keogh don't get picked then I'll be happy

DH2K9 · 13-11-2011 1:26am

Dotrel wrote: »

Here's the list of every player who was selected (either XI or bench for at least 1 game during the qualification campaign so far. I'm limiting my selection to them.

In the interest of simplicity and probably fairness I'd limit selection to players who actually did the work to get us there.

The number in brackets "( )" in the amount of onfield minutes they've put in during the campaign
===

GOALKEEPERS
1. Shay Given (900)
2. Keiren Westwood (90)
3. David Forde (0)
4. Joe Murphy (0)

DEFENDERS
5. Richard Dunne (810)
6. Sean St Ledger (720)
7. John O'Shea (705)
8. Kevin Kilbane (540)
9. Stephen Kelly (375)
10. Darren O'Dea (360)
11. Stephen Ward (360)
12. Kevin Foley (90)
13. Ciaran Clarke (0)
14. Damien Delaney (0)
15. Greg Cunningham (0)
16. Marc Wilson (0)
17. Paul Mc Shane (0)

MIDFIELDERS
18. Aidan Mc Geady (940)
19. Glen Whelan (885)
20. Keith Andrews (540)
21. Damien Duff (485)
22. Paul Green (312)
23. Liam Lawrence (241)
24. Darron Gibson (179)
25. Keith Fahey (176)
26. Steve Hunt (173)
27. James Mc Carthy (3)
28. Seamus Coleman (0)

FORWARDS
29. Robbie Keane (892)
30. Kevin Doyle (548)
31. Shane Long (234)
32. Simon Cox (208)
33. Jon Walters (93)
34. Andrew Keogh (31)
35. Cilian Sheridan (0)

=====

Personally I'd prefer an 3-7-8-5 squad so I'd start just chopping names off from the bottom. The only exceptions are the case of Paul Green who has put in a large number of minutes but is generally useless, never should have been capped to begin with and seems to thankfully have disappeared off the radar for good anyway. Forde has made the bench three times and Murphy just once so he clearly gets the choice as third goalie. So that leaves you with a final squad of ......

GOALKEEPERS
1. Shay Given (900)
2. Keiren Westwood (90)
3. David Forde (0)

DEFENDERS
4. Richard Dunne (810)
5. Sean St Ledger (720)
6. John O'Shea (705)
7. Kevin Kilbane (540)
8. Stephen Kelly (375)
9. Darren O'Dea (360)
10. Stephen Ward (360)

MIDFIELDERS
11. Aidan Mc Geady (940)
12. Glen Whelan (885)
13. Keith Andrews (540)
14. Damien Duff (485)
15. Liam Lawrence (241)
16. Darron Gibson (179)
17. Keith Fahey (176)
18. Steve Hunt (173)

FORWARDS
19. Robbie Keane (892)
20. Kevin Doyle (548)
21. Shane Long (234)
22. Simon Cox (208)
23. Jon Walters (93)

==

Some may question the absense of James McCarthy but frankly I reckon he can just shíte off back to Wigan for all I care. Go watch the matches in the pub with Stephen Ireland for all I care. As for Coleman he might set Goodison alight but he's clearly not convinced Trapp he's the right sort of player for Ireland yet so that's good enough for me.

Whatever about james mcCarthy, Seamus Coleman is one of the most consistant performers in the Premier League which is exactly what Trap should want. How he doesn't start ahead of kelly I do not know

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