Why do they still give tickets on city buses?

Intifada · 19-05-2014 2:27pm #1

Can't speak for Dublin now but one thing I've noticed in Galway is that they always print you a ticket when you get on. Obvious environmental issues aside it's a complete waste of money. There is only one set of doors, the driver sees everyone get on and off and let's be honest - there has never been a conductor checking them! Surely if they scrapped paper tickets they might be able to avoid these price hikes every single year for a service that has never improved in the slightest?

I've been to London and can't say I'm a huge fan of the Oyster card system, and anyway it would not be necessary in a city the size of Galway, but I can't see any drawbacks in just doing away with printing everyone a ticket.

hardCopy · 19-05-2014 2:29pm

I've had my tickets checked in Dublin. People lie about their destination and run the risk of being caught out if a conductor gets on. If you took away tickets there would be no way to counter this.

Intifada · 19-05-2014 2:38pm

Given that in 6 years I've never seen a conductor nor has anyone I've spoken to, surely the reduced cost would outweigh the financial risk of fare dodgers? Besides, I am talking about city buses. It's the same fare regardless of destination.

Might reduce cleaning costs too. Every bus I get on is littered with tickets as most people just throw them away the second they get them.

smellmepower · 19-05-2014 2:40pm

Need them to redeem your change in Dublin if you didn't have exact fare and overpaid.

Intifada · 19-05-2014 2:47pm

Not to be rude but I made it fairly clear I wasn't talking about Dublin

LXFlyer · 19-05-2014 2:58pm

Legal obligation to issue a receipt, and also to ensure that people have a valid ticket in the event of a revenue inspection.

LEAP has just been rolled out in Cork, and I would imagine that it will gradually be phased into each of the regional cities.

There are no conductors in Bus Eireann, but there are inspectors and I would be fairly confident that they will become more visible.

Dravokivich · 19-05-2014 2:59pm

It's proof of purchase, you should always be provided with proof of purchase. The oyster card in London, like the Leap Card in Dublin/Cork, provides proof of Purchase as theirs details stored on them for the journey being made.

Intifada · 19-05-2014 3:03pm

Surely proof of purchase can be waived, or can just be provided upon request?

What is LEAP?

LXFlyer · 19-05-2014 3:06pm

No - they are legally obliged to issue a receipt.

LEAP is the new card that is being rolled out in Dublin and Cork and which will be extended to other parts of the country - similar to Oyster. Full information at www.leapcard.ie

Intifada · 19-05-2014 3:38pm

lxflyer wrote: »

No - they are legally obliged to issue a receipt.

LEAP is the new card that is being rolled out in Dublin and Cork and which will be extended to other parts of the country - similar to Oyster. Full information at .....

I see. I've been to plenty of places that do not give you a receipt unless you ask, some even have signs up saying as much. Suppose it's a bit more stringent with state bodies though.

LEAP card looks the job. Surprised it's taken this long to introduce tbh.

Boulevardier · 19-05-2014 3:42pm

Of course in Cork, they are pronounced LEP.

KCAccidental · 20-05-2014 12:22pm

Boulevardier wrote: »

Of course in Cork, they are pronounced LEP.

I continually have to correct myself when saying it. So used to saying Lep for leap!

AndrewJD · 20-05-2014 1:45pm

Intifada wrote: »

Given that in 6 years I've never seen a conductor nor has anyone I've spoken to, surely the reduced cost would outweigh the financial risk of fare dodgers?

Are they not hiring a load of new inspectors to try and get on top of this? After 4 years of commuting with DB I've been inspected twice, both times on the quays. I'd imagine if you hopped on the buses coming in from the edges of the system before you hit the major departure stops near O'Connell street/College Green you'd catch a fair few people who asked for a fare tier below the one they really needed.

LXFlyer · 20-05-2014 4:24pm

The OP is in Galway and is talking about Bus Eireann Galway city services it would appear, and NOT Dublin bus.

coylemj · 20-05-2014 4:52pm

lxflyer wrote: »

The OP is in Galway and is talking about Bus Eireann Galway city services it would appear, and NOT Dublin bus.

Well given that the thread title makes no mention of Galway or Bus Eireann, it would make sense as far as I'm concerned to move this thread to the Galway forum.

Outsiders not welcome.....

Intifada wrote: »

Not to be rude but I made it fairly clear I wasn't talking about Dublin

Mrs OBumble · 21-05-2014 1:45pm

lxflyer wrote: »

No - they are legally obliged to issue a receipt.

LEAP is the new card that is being rolled out in Dublin and Cork and which will be extended to other parts of the country - similar to Oyster. Full information at www.leapcard.ie

So how do City Direct manage to get away with not issuing tickets, then? (What's more, one of their city routes does even have a 2nd stage with a higher price - dunno if anyone pays it though.)

LXFlyer · 21-05-2014 4:10pm

They are supposed to.

Intifada · 21-05-2014 4:32pm

coylemj wrote: »

Well given that the thread title makes no mention of Galway or Bus Eireann, it would make sense as far as I'm concerned to move this thread to the Galway forum.

It would make more sense for you to read the first four words of the first post.

hardCopy · 21-05-2014 5:43pm

Intifada wrote: »

It would make more sense for you to read the first four words of the first post.

To be fair, all your first post established was that you didn't have any direct experience of using city buses in Dublin. The wording of your question could include any city buses and nothing on your post clarifies what you actually meant.

The thread title would make more sense if it said "Why do they still give tickets on Galway city buses?"

Why do they still give tickets on city buses?

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