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Duck shooting from moving boat

  • 01-09-2014 3:24pm
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    Woodville56
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    Today on a midland lake. I watched as a firing party of 3 hunters opened fire on (and down) a duck from a moving outboard engine powered boat, travelling along reedbeds - is this legal ? I understood that the Wildlife Acts prohibited this form of hunting ?


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  • #2
    Jimy1971
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    Woodville56 wrote: »
    Today on a midland lake. I watched as a firing party of 3 hunters opened fire on (and down) a duck from a moving outboard engine powered boat, travelling along reedbeds - is this legal ? I understood that the Wildlife Acts prohibited this form of hunting ?


    Seen the same thing happening this morning. As far as I know it's illegal. Spoke to a couple of lads that were shooting on Ree this morning. Said they seen lads shoot anything that moved, swallows,gulls, cormorants and even stared firing into the water at a fish they caught. Some lads why hunters get a bad name then.


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    hiddenmongoose
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    Jimy1971 wrote: »
    Seen the same thing happening this morning. As far as I know it's illegal. Spoke to a couple of lads that were shooting on Ree this morning. Said they seen lads shoot anything that moved, swallows,gulls, cormorants and even stared firing into the water at a fish they caught. Some lads why hunters get a bad name then.

    As i said on another post allready this is why I avoid the lakes for the first week or 2,Its full of idiots,half of which are full of hooch from the night before on the island and couldnt hit the lake in front of them.come October you hardly meet a soul out and those you do meet are normally the salt of the earth type people


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    useurowname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭useurowname


    Jimy1971 wrote: »
    Seen the same thing happening this morning. As far as I know it's illegal. Spoke to a couple of lads that were shooting on Ree this morning. Said they seen lads shoot anything that moved, swallows,gulls, cormorants and even stared firing into the water at a fish they caught. Some lads why hunters get a bad name then.

    They're called w*nkers, every sport and past time has a few of them. They have no respect for their sport, their quarry, their countryside or their fellow hunters, best if these guys got pinched by the Rangers and had their guns confiscated. As the fella says come October there will be no sign of them anyway.


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    Woodville56
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    useurowname wrote: »
    They're called w*nkers, every sport and past time has a few of them. They have no respect for their sport, their quarry, their countryside or their fellow hunters, best if these guys got pinched by the Rangers and had their guns confiscated. As the fella says come October there will be no sign of them anyway.

    Agreed ! As I said earlier. I came across 5 of them today in two boats, different areas of same lake, all 5 toting guns. Pity the gun clubs to which they belong ( unlikely that all 5 fowlers would not have gun club affiliations?) wouldn't enforce the regulations more stringently and turf out those who don't want to play by the rules - ignorance ( or plain disobedience) of the law is no excuse. If they have licences to carry guns, they should be aware of the wildlife laws, so that there's a level playing field for all who enjoy hunting, not to mention giving the wildfowl a sporting chance !


  • #6
    useurowname
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    It would be a pretty poor GC that would have guys that go on like that as members.Personally I'd report them, if it was possible and you had a Rangers number and just give them a bell they could be got when they came off the lake and at least informed of the laws. BTW did many of ye bump into Rangers this morning on ye're travels?


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  • #7
    Woodville56
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    Rarely ever see a ranger in these parts! I know the local ranger and sent a text later about what I had seen. The guys I seen Earlier were not known to me nor did I know where they had their vehicles parked up as there are numerous access points to the lake and river system.


  • #8
    tomtucker81
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    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1976/en/act/pub/0039/sec0036.html#sec36

    Above is sec 36 of the wildlife act of 76, this specific section relates to the use of mechanically propelled vehicles/vessels while hunting.

    Below is sec 44 of the wildlife amendment act 2000, covering use of mechanically propelled vessel/vehicle for hunting. Amended to include electrical engines which are still classed as mechanically propelled. It amends sec 36 of the principle act of 76. I'll dig out that section now....and here it is.

    It would seem that there's no mention of whether the engine is on or off at the time, just that it is a mechanically propelled vehicle by virtue of an engine being there. the onus to prove it isn't mechanically propelled at the time of use lies with the person being prosecuted. (Read that further in the 2000 act.) Of course thats just my reading of it, or my interpretation anyway.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2000/en/act/pub/0038/sec0044.html#sec44


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