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Are fares going up on Dec 1?

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    #122
    Lifelike
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    end of the road wrote: »
    that would probably be unmanagable

    I don't see how. Simply replace the current travel passes with a special Leap card, and charge 50c per journey with a weekly cap of maybe €5. It would still be an absolute steal in comparison to what most ordinary people pay. It's just not fair to continually increase fares at levels far above inflation while travel pass holders still pay absolutely nothing.


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    #123
    end of the road
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    Lifelike wrote: »
    I don't see how. Simply replace the current travel passes with a special Leap card, and charge 50c per journey with a weekly cap of maybe €5. It would still be an absolute steal in comparison to what most ordinary people pay. It's just not fair to continually increase fares at levels far above inflation while travel pass holders still pay absolutely nothing.
    life isn't fair sometimes. its not about fairness, the free travel scheme is to ensure pensioners and the genuinely disabled can get out of the house effectively. there are many on it who don't need it all right and they should be taken off the scheme but the genuine cases aren't an issue and shouldn't be charged.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #124
    Lifelike
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    end of the road wrote: »
    life isn't fair sometimes. its not about fairness, the free travel scheme is to ensure pensioners and the genuinely disabled can get out of the house effectively. there are many on it who don't need it all right and they should be taken off the scheme but the genuine cases aren't an issue and shouldn't be charged.

    We need to bear in mind that with an ageing population, the amount of people with free travel passes is only going to increase even further to the point where the scheme will become completely unsustainable. Therefore, charging a small, nominal fare may actually help to secure the long-term future of the scheme. If fares keep on increasing at their current rate, there won't be enough fare-paying passengers to subsidize the free travel pass holders.


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    #125
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    I'd actually go one further and give a potentially unpopular opinion that the free travel scheme be restricted to pensioners only. Too much potential for abuse to give it out to people on disability benefit.


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    #126
    coylemj
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    Lifelike wrote: »
    We need to bear in mind that with an ageing population, the amount of people with free travel passes is only going to increase even further to the point where the scheme will become completely unsustainable. Therefore, charging a small, nominal fare may actually help to secure the long-term future of the scheme. If fares keep on increasing at their current rate, there won't be enough fare-paying passengers to subsidize the free travel pass holders.

    That is true and a demographic fact in relation to any benefit you care to mention such as free travel or automatic medical cards for the elderly. The ratio of working people to pensioners is going to drastically drop over the next 30 years thanks to the ageing population which means that either working people pay progressively more taxes, or pensioners see their benefits clawed back.


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    coylemj
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    Karsini wrote: »
    I'd actually go one further and give a potentially unpopular opinion that the free travel scheme be restricted to pensioners only. Too much potential for abuse to give it out to people on disability benefit.

    Not unpopular where I'm concerned, I see people of all ages literally bounding on to the bus every day flashing a pass at the driver, they can't be all DB employees!


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    #128
    LXFlyer
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    Clarification on LEAP transfer rebate from Dublin Bus today - the €1 discount will apply to each subsequent journey that is taken within 90 minutes of the first:

    ‘Leap From One Bus To The Next And Save Money With ‘Leap 90 Discounting’

    Published on Friday, October 31, 2014

    From Sunday 2nd November, Leap Card will introduce a new feature when you use a Leap Card to travel on Dublin Bus.

    Travel Further for Less - If you pay your bus fare using Travel Credit on your Leap Card, you can now make unlimited bus transfers within 90 minutes and receive a discount on your fare. With ‘Leap 90 Discount’, if you take two or more buses to reach your destination, Leap 90 Discounting will automatically refund you up to €1.00 (€0.70 child fare) to your Leap Card Travel Credit from the second, third or subsequent fares paid.

    Your next journey must begin within 90 minutes of the previous journey. If you are paying the City Centre fare, the full €0.55 fare will be refunded to your Leap Card.
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    Hassle Free – Your Leap Card will always select the best value fare option from your Travel Credit, e.g. individual fare, capping or Leap 90 Discount, so you don’t need to decide.


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