Do you still use XP? (multiple choice)

beauf · 03-03-2014 2:03am

Depends does it have a Math CoPro?

dr.fuzzenstein · 03-03-2014 10:37am

beauf wrote: »

Why can't the business not simply turn off Metro? Then most of the users won't know any difference from Windows 7.

That is the main problem with Win 8. Let's take on OS designed for phones and tablets with touchscreen and stick it on a laptop or desktop. And thereby making it damn near unusable.
Idiotic.

beauf · 03-03-2014 10:47am

But you can turn it off. Takes less than a minute.

So what's the big deal?

PropJoe10 · 03-03-2014 1:34pm

You're preaching to the converted here. Some people just cant seem to get over the Metro interface, even if you dont have to use it if you dont want to. People are very stubborn when it comes to things like this, and also more than a little afraid, at times.

beauf · 03-03-2014 1:36pm

I don't see the point of complaining about it, if you don't have to use it.

dr.fuzzenstein · 03-03-2014 2:29pm

beauf wrote: »

I don't see the point of complaining about it, if you don't have to use it.

If you have a way of turning off the Metro interface, add a start button and have every single thing working in less than a minute, I would be interested, should I ever have to work with 8.

beauf · 03-03-2014 3:30pm

Did you miss the previous posts

Classic Shell or Start8. Google some reviews.

200motels · 03-03-2014 4:25pm

All I seem to hear from people who like 8 is, it's great with a 3rd party app to bring back the start button, well if they have to do that it's obvious that they don't like the way 8 is in the first place. I've used 8 for a while and the update 8.1 and it is fast and faster in many ways than 7 but I sold my disc and key as I just don't like the way it's set up and I don't want to install a 3rd party app just to have a half arsed start button that resembles 7 and Vista.

mikom · 03-03-2014 4:32pm

Quick query.........
Will most PC games and programs that work with XP work better with windows 7 or 8.
I'm talking games from the xp era and before it?

Trying to decide between 7 or 8 myself.

PropJoe10 · 03-03-2014 4:38pm

200motels wrote: »

All I seem to hear from people who like 8 is, it's great with a 3rd party app to bring back the start button, well if they have to do that it's obvious that they don't like the way 8 is in the first place. I've used 8 for a while and the update 8.1 and it is fast and faster in many ways than 7 but I sold my disc and key as I just don't like the way it's set up and I don't want to install a 3rd party app just to have a half arsed start button that resembles 7 and Vista.

So you wont use Windows 8 because you dont like the way it is made, even though theres a perfectly simple way of getting it working with a Start menu which makes it much superior to Windows 7? Thats your own choice, but it seems you are cutting off your nose to spite your face, to me. Unofficial or not, Classic Shell is a great addition to Windows 8/8.1, and its in no way half arsed - you would see this if you took the time to try it.

beauf · 03-03-2014 4:58pm

200motels wrote: »

All I seem to hear from people who like 8 is, it's great with a 3rd party app to bring back the start button, well if they have to do that it's obvious that they don't like the way 8 is in the first place. I've used 8 for a while and the update 8.1 and it is fast and faster in many ways than 7 but I sold my disc and key as I just don't like the way it's set up and I don't want to install a 3rd party app just to have a half arsed start button that resembles 7 and Vista.

I take it then you won't be installing a 3rd party app like chrome, because you don't like IE, or installing Minecraft because you don't like Minesweeper.

Metro isn't Windows 8, it sits on top. The whole point of a Wintel Machine is you can install what you want.

200motels · 03-03-2014 9:24pm

beauf wrote: »

I take it then you won't be installing a 3rd party app like chrome, because you don't like IE, or installing Minecraft because you don't like Minesweeper.

Metro isn't Windows 8, it sits on top. The whole point of a Wintel Machine is you can install what you want.

Point taken.

200motels · 03-03-2014 9:30pm

PropJoe10 wrote: »

So you wont use Windows 8 because you dont like the way it is made, even though theres a perfectly simple way of getting it working with a Start menu which makes it much superior to Windows 7? Thats your own choice, but it seems you are cutting off your nose to spite your face, to me. Unofficial or not, Classic Shell is a great addition to Windows 8/8.1, and its in no way half arsed - you would see this if you took the time to try it.

I have tried the the 3rd party add on and I didn't like it, the one I used was from Stardock, now maybe theirs better ones out there I didn't try but until Microsoft get rid of that awful app screen and put a proper start button in I'll stick with 7 and Linux Mint.

beauf · 03-03-2014 11:52pm

"the 3rd party addon" ? yup theres more than one...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Start_Menu_replacements_for_Windows_8

It makes no sense that someone finds checking out a few apps a step too far. But will install Linux instead.

Near.. far away....

Cuddlesworth · 04-03-2014 10:37am

Am I the only person that dropped the tiled app's and got on with it?

Jesus you're all a bunch of babies.

beauf · 04-03-2014 10:38am

LOl - exactly.

Ash.J.Williams · 04-03-2014 10:39am

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Am I the only person that dropped the tiled app's and got on with it?

Jesus you're all a bunch of babies.

no...upgraded from vista....set up my desktop...happy days ever since

dr.fuzzenstein · 04-03-2014 11:18am

Debian at home and 7 at work, couldn't be happier.

Charlie19 · 07-03-2014 2:49am

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Debian at home and 7 at work, couldn't be happier.

Had to google that one.

Just shows what I know:o

JJJJNR · 07-03-2014 2:15pm

Home - IBM t43p with an IDE SSD drive, I've had windows XP auto updates turned off for three years, its happy out. Windows 7 at work but most other PC's are windows XP.

jester77 · 07-03-2014 2:20pm

Looking at the Omniture stats for our site, 9.0% of our daily unique visitors are still using XP. Only Windows 7 and OSX are more popular.

It's going to a slow death.

PropJoe10 · 07-03-2014 2:49pm

I was in Currys/PC World in the Jervis Centre in Dublin the other day, and all the staff terminals around the shop are running XP Pro. Its a bad sign when computer shops are still running XP on their internal systems!

beauf · 07-03-2014 3:15pm

If they aren't on the web why does it matter.

Ste- · 07-03-2014 3:17pm

beauf wrote: »

If they aren't on the web why does it matter.

Because one other machine that is infected could transfer malicious content via USB or if it's only a local network could wreak havoc on it.
Don't think only infections come from the internet on an isolated machine.

beauf · 07-03-2014 3:26pm

I'm not. I'm assuming no one would have USB ports enabled on a terminal system. And user would not be be allowed to run any software other then the terminal. It would be a locked down system. Which is probably they've never had a need to upgrade it.

Cuddlesworth · 07-03-2014 3:49pm

beauf wrote: »

I'm not. I'm assuming no one would have USB ports enabled on a terminal system. And user would not be be allowed to run any software other then the terminal. It would be a locked down system. Which is probably they've never had a need to upgrade it.

If its a proper isolated terminal, then it doesn't matter. So ATM's etc are really only on 56k modems or ISDN lines. But if its networked, you are going to have a bad time. I have no doubt that after a month or two of support being dropped, you will see a couple of zero days come out. When Microsoft stand by their word and do nothing, the big guns will come out. Thats a lot of possible new botnet members in a short span of time. Popular sites are going to be hit hard to be used as a transfer method to client machines.

The Black Oil · 07-03-2014 4:11pm

My workplace still does. I'm a little concerned as I don't know how to convince my boss, who is not a technical person (nor am I tech support), to spend a bit of money. 2 PCs have failed for hardware reasons, so I think everything else is creaking along (colleagues having problems) at probably 8-10 years old. We don't really have the money to buy to updated machines. I got a refurbished Win 7, which is great. You'd hardly know it was a refurb save for the sticker. We don't have money to redo our website, so 5 PCs plus the technician's time to set up is likely out of the question. When SHTF it's going to be fun.

Dravokivich · 07-03-2014 4:25pm

Ste- wrote: »

Because one other machine that is infected could transfer malicious content via USB or if it's only a local network could wreak havoc on it.
Don't think only infections come from the internet on an isolated machine.

These would be Point of Sale terminals that Beauf is talking about. These would only be on local networks within that company and User Access should be heavily restricted with USB only able to work for input devices such as keypads / card readers.

Most shops that have gone the PC route for their tills would be running on some sort of variant of Windows XP.

beauf · 07-03-2014 4:42pm

The Black Oil wrote: »

M...5 PCs plus the technician's time to set up is likely out of the question. When SHTF it's going to be fun.

Many places have hundreds if not thousands of them!

TBH, many of these old boxes are pre - core2duo, and thus pretty much too slow for modern browsers and websites.

The Black Oil · 07-03-2014 4:48pm

Yeah, colleagues have issues with IE8. Think Firefox is on some, but not sure they understand what it's for...

Do you still use XP? (multiple choice)

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