Manchester United vs Fulham Match thread k/o 16.00 SS1.

Will I Amnt · 09-02-2014 9:06pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Tut tut! :P

I like the moxy, I do. You want to fight back, not get pushed around. I understand the desire but let me save you much frustration: this is your turn to sit down and take it. All the effort and smarts in the world won't save you from the inescapable reality of your team's results. And yes, I do know this from experience.

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For what it's worth, Utd were unlucky not to take all three points. As much as Moyes's approach was inefficient, Utd dominated and laid siege for the vast majority of the game. Fulham got a lot of luck. Not that I'm complaining, but it's a point worth noting nonetheless.

It's his turn?? Like you lot did??
Lol.

Nuri Sahin · 09-02-2014 9:12pm

willmunny1990 wrote: »

You are the last person to call out anybody on post and thank history.

Only a few weeks back you were pulled up on using your supposed special needs brother to score cheap thanks and trying to get another poster in trouble for using the word retarded, even though you seem to have no bother throwing around the word.

Pathetic.

An actual soccer forum moderator here can actually confirm that amongst a couple of other posters. Try knowing the full details before criticising me.

Laughable that it's YOU of all people defending BNMC. Two peas in a pod. Anything else said will get me in trouble and you're certainly not worth it lad.

Will I Amnt · 09-02-2014 9:14pm

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

An actual soccer forum moderator here can actually confirm that amongst a couple of other posters. Try knowing the full details before criticising me.

That's even worse

Nuri Sahin · 09-02-2014 9:20pm

Will I Amnt wrote: »

That's even worse

You know what he meant by supposed, but please, keep up with your posts in general for the sake of an argument.

Mars Bar · 09-02-2014 9:21pm

willmunny1990 wrote: »

You are the last person to call out anybody on post and thank history.

Only a few weeks back you were pulled up on using your supposed special needs brother to score cheap thanks and trying to get another poster in trouble for using the word retarded, even though you seem to have no bother throwing around the word.

Pathetic.

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

An actual soccer forum moderator here can actually confirm that amongst a couple of other posters. Try knowing the full details before criticising me.

Laughable that it's YOU of all people defending BNMC. Two peas in a pod. Anything else said will get me in trouble and you're certainly not worth it lad.

Will I Amnt wrote: »

That's even worse

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

You know what he meant by supposed, but please, keep up with your posts in general for the sake of an argument.

This stops now.

monkey9 · 09-02-2014 9:33pm

willmunny1990 wrote: »

You are the last person to call out anybody on post and thank history.

Only a few weeks back you were pulled up on using your supposed special needs brother to score cheap thanks and trying to get another poster in trouble for using the word retarded, even though you seem to have no bother throwing around the word.

Pathetic.

Ha! Here's the other one.

YouTookMyName · 09-02-2014 9:47pm

09-02-2014 9:49pm

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Was that the start of the season?

He's aged 20 years since then!

michael999999 · 09-02-2014 10:03pm

rarnes1 wrote: »

Was that the start of the season?

He's aged 20 years since then!

In fairness, he's had a lot of crosses to bear!

Sgt Pepper 64 · 09-02-2014 11:19pm

Wow, I cant believe Utd drew. I switched off in injury time assuming they had won.

smileyj1987 · 09-02-2014 11:24pm

willmunny1990 wrote: »

You are the last person to call out anybody on post and thank history.

Hey Willmunny miss you on the LFC thread .

Lumbo · 09-02-2014 11:27pm

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Wow, I cant believe Utd drew. I switched off in injury time assuming they had won.

So did they :pac:

doc_17 · 09-02-2014 11:40pm

Utd should have pushed on a wee bit more after they went 2-1 up but it cost them that they didn't. Moyes is in real trouble, full squad, more or less, to choose from today. Visit was at fault big time for the second goal. He shouldn't have tried to be so fancy.

Royal Legend · 10-02-2014 12:29am

Blatter wrote: »

I think most recognise that he's working day and night for the cause and respect him as a person, which brings a lot of good will. However most of the same people are realising that he's not up to the job.

It was a bit different with Liverpool fans and Hodgson, iirc there seemed to be genuinely bad blood between the two in that situation.

As bad as things are for utd and moyes, one thing is certain, he is not anything similar to hodgson.
Moyes is a good manager in a difficult position. He might not come good at utd, but that is probably more to do with the players than him.

Paully D · 10-02-2014 12:59am

Royal Legend wrote: »

As bad as things are for utd and moyes, one thing is certain, he is not anything similar to hodgson.
Moyes is a good manager in a difficult position. He might not come good at utd, but that is probably more to do with the players than him.

You're right when you say Moyes is not anything similar to Hodgson.

Roy Hodgson, regardless of what happened at Liverpool, has achieved far more in management than David Moyes would in five lifetimes. Hodgson is a much, much better manager.

CSF · 10-02-2014 1:00am

Royal Legend wrote: »

As bad as things are for utd and moyes, one thing is certain, he is not anything similar to hodgson.
Moyes is a good manager in a difficult position. He might not come good at utd, but that is probably more to do with the players than him.

Hodgson has achieved far more in his career than Moyes ever will. Stupid comment.

niallo27 · 10-02-2014 11:10am

Paully D wrote: »

You're right when you say Moyes is not anything similar to Hodgson.

Roy Hodgson, regardless of what happened at Liverpool, has achieved far more in management than David Moyes would in five lifetimes. Hodgson is a much, much better manager.

Really what's hodgson done of any note. Is he not like Moyes always did well at smaller clubs but found it tough when he took over at a club that expects to win things.

mike65 · 10-02-2014 11:56am

Took Switzerland to the quarters of the world cup in 1994 and Fulham to the EL final. Still not a good manager though.

ronjo · 10-02-2014 11:58am

niallo27 wrote: »

Really what's hodgson done of any note. Is he not like Moyes always did well at smaller clubs but found it tough when he took over at a club that expects to win things.

He won the Swedish League with Malmo a few times I think.

Did excellent with Finland and Switzerland too.

Not sure what else.

Deise_2012 · 10-02-2014 5:55pm

Paully D wrote: »

You're right when you say Moyes is not anything similar to Hodgson.

Roy Hodgson, regardless of what happened at Liverpool, has achieved far more in management than David Moyes would in five lifetimes. Hodgson is a much, much better manager.

Why? Because he won a few leagues out in Scandinavia? Those are mickey mouse leagues they are nothing compared to the Premiership. He done well for a few seasons in Fulham, that europa league run they had was pox lucky. He's an average manager who will get England to the 1/4 finals at best in the next 2 major tournaments.

People need to get off Moyes' back. He can only do so much, he can't run onto the pitch and score for them, how many chances did they miss yesterday? Fletcher and Carrick ****ed up for the 1st goal, Vidic' header to Carrick wasn't good enough for the 2nd goal, mistakes that the players made! If a team has over 80 crosses and only get 2 goals against a **** side, how can that be the managers fault? The players would want to pull the finger out, Rooney and RVP were terrible yesterday. Demanding 300k a week only to get a performance like that, that's gas

10-02-2014 5:57pm

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Why? Because he won a few leagues out in Scandinavia? Those are mickey mouse leagues they are nothing compared to the Premiership. He done well for a few seasons in Fulham, that europa league run they had was pox lucky. He's an average manager who will get England to the 1/4 finals at best in the next 2 major tournaments.

People need to get off Moyes' back. He can only do so much, he can't run onto the pitch and score for them, how many chances did they miss yesterday? Fletcher and Carrick ****ed up for the 1st goal, Vidic' header to Carrick wasn't good enough for the 2nd goal, mistakes that the players made! If a team has over 80 crosses and only get 2 goals against a **** side, how can that be the managers fault? The players would want to pull the finger out, Rooney and RVP were terrible yesterday. Demanding 300k a week only to get a performance like that, that's gas

Perhaps change tactics as it was obvious it wasn't working?

Deise_2012 · 10-02-2014 6:02pm

rarnes1 wrote: »

Perhaps change tactics as it was obvious it wasn't working?

Did he not change tactics when Januzaj came on

Utopia Parkway · 10-02-2014 6:09pm

ronjo wrote: »

He won the Swedish League with Malmo a few times I think.

Did excellent with Finland and Switzerland too.

Not sure what else.

Reached a UEFA Cup final with Inter (although they lost it).

dahat · 10-02-2014 6:44pm

Did one of the 82 crosses land yet?

10-02-2014 8:05pm

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Did he not change tactics when Januzaj came on

No, the tactics stayed the same. Get it wide and cross it in.

blueser · 10-02-2014 8:12pm

Deise_2012 · 10-02-2014 8:19pm

rarnes1 wrote: »

No, the tactics stayed the same. Get it wide and cross it in.

How can you work the ball through a team with 11 behind the ball? Same thing happened Chelsea when they played West Ham last week

sundula · 10-02-2014 8:25pm

Deise_2012 wrote: »

How can you work the ball through a team with 11 behind the ball? Same thing happened Chelsea when they played West Ham last week

They did manage to score two goals against the worse team in the league, the problem is they also conceded two.

Deise_2012 · 10-02-2014 8:28pm

sundula wrote: »

They did manage to score two goals against the worse team in the league, the problem is they also conceded two.

Because of individual mistakes....don't know why people blame moyes over the result

Danger781 · 10-02-2014 8:29pm

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Because of individual mistakes....don't know why people blame moyes over the result

Are you serious

Deise_2012 · 10-02-2014 9:11pm

Danger781 wrote: »

Are you serious

Deadly serious

Dicky Pride · 10-02-2014 9:13pm

I'm worried about how closely I'm following this thread. I've seen that video of the crosses posted 4 times already.

It would be nice to hear something from the board of the club at this stage. I think the fans have a right to know wtf is going on.

recylingbin · 14-02-2014 10:09pm

recylingbin wrote: »

Absolutely disgraceful conceding two goals against those mugs.
Rene out!!!!

Sorry Rene..

Paully D · 16-02-2014 6:34pm

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Why? Because he won a few leagues out in Scandinavia? Those are mickey mouse leagues they are nothing compared to the Premiership. He done well for a few seasons in Fulham, that europa league run they had was pox lucky. He's an average manager who will get England to the 1/4 finals at best in the next 2 major tournaments.

niallo27 wrote: »

Really what's hodgson done of any note. Is he not like Moyes always did well at smaller clubs but found it tough when he took over at a club that expects to win things.

It's very obvious:

Hodgson:

Moyes:

Hodgson has won league titles and cups in numerous countries, got to two European finals with two different teams, got to the last 16 of a World Cup with Switzerland and to a European Championships for the first time in 40 years, and was knighted in Finland for his services to football in that country. He's now manager of England.

Moyes has won League One with Preston, got to a Championship playoff final with them and finished 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th, 7th and 7th with Everton over a 10 year period, reaching one FA Cup final and winning nothing.

There's no comparison.

Manchester United vs Fulham Match thread k/o 16.00 SS1.

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