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Smalia. Perfect location for a rigged 9/11 spectacular to justify a global (NWO) navy

  • 22-11-2008 7:03pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    looking at the press over the last number of days, Piracy is getting out of hand off the coast of Somalia, Even the presence of international navies has no effect on these guys.

    Currently an oil-laden Saudi super-tanker the Sirius Star with an international crew of 25 is awaiting its faith. This ship is one of the biggest supertankers in its class.

    SiriusStar460.jpg

    There are heavily armed insurgents from Islamic factions building up along the coast with an interest in this ship. Also along the coast there are Navies from Russia, the EU, US, India. http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/11/21/africa/somalia.php

    What would happen if this ship or one similar exploded in another well photographed rigged 9/11 type spectacular with the loss of everyone on board? A huge environments catastrophe, Of course Islamic insurgents getting the blame, global panic to rapidly usher in a special international task force to police the worlds oceans.

    Limburg-Oil-Tanker-Fire-S.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Why would the NWO need to cause a panic to send in a navy?
    Why would the public care about a tanker in the Indian ocean let alone panic?
    Why would they need public support to send a task force anyway?
    Why are you worried about increased naval security of the coast of Somalia?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    King Mob wrote: »
    Why would the NWO need to cause a panic to send in a navy?
    Why would the public care about a tanker in the Indian ocean let alone panic?
    Why would they need public support to send a task force anyway?
    Why are you worried about increased naval security of the coast of Somalia?

    Why should the public care about the Twin Towers, ah, sure it only happened in New York. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Why should the public care about the Twin Towers, ah, sure it only happened in New York. :rolleyes:
    Maybe because it was the biggest terrorist attack ever?
    Maybe because it was one of the few times America had been attacked on home soil?
    Maybe because 3000 people died in a city where an attack like that was far from anyones minds?

    Going to answer my other questions or just ignore them as usual?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    King Mob wrote: »
    Going to answer my other questions or just ignore them as usual?
    The reason I don't answer most of your questions is because most of them are so damn stupid and dont warrent answers :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    The reason I don't answer most of your questions is because most of them are so damn stupid and dont warrent answers :rolleyes:

    Oh you mean the ones asking for evidence and stuff?


    But maybe you can tell me why the NWO doesn't just make a task force and not tell anyone, cause they can control the media and things?

    Do all your posts have to end in :rolleyes:?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    The reason I don't answer most of your questions is because most of them are so damn stupid and dont warrent answers :rolleyes:

    Alot of his questions deserve answers after all the paranoid stuff you post on here. You constantly scare monger and then avoid the replys to your threads tending only to pick snipets of the responses and attack them.

    Care to add weight to your arguements or just constantly avoid the questions?

    Borderline trolling in fairness. Adding nothing to a discussion rather than mocking someones questions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Shazbot wrote: »
    Alot of his questions deserve answers after all the paranoid stuff you post on here. You constantly scare monger and then avoid the replys to your threads tending only to pick snipets of the responses and attack them.

    Care to add weight to your arguments or just constantly avoid the questions?

    Borderline trolling in fairness. Adding nothing to a discussion rather than mocking someones questions.
    I come up with a possible scenario which is currently in the news headlines. I merely suggest that such an incident could be hijacked by Global Powers and this guy starts to bombarding me with questions just for the sake of argument just like what he has being doing constantly with myself and other posters.

    And King Mob, people are concerned about Piracy in the Indian Ocean,

    It effects Shipping lanes and is already causing shipping companies to divert around Cape Hope adding to the cost of sea freight. It is treatening the lives of innocent people.

    The price of oil is already under threat, Insurance premium for shipping, Piracy finances terrorism, Piracy finances more sophisticated artillery for future raids, If a tanker of such size was blown to pieces the ecological damage would be unthinkable. Parts of the Somalia coast are not too far from the Red sea.

    Piracy is also illegal and could draw up further conflict. If this went unchecked it could spread and has being.

    If you say that this has no significance why is there such a large international navy force present?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I come up with a possible scenario which is currently in the news headlines. I merely suggest that such an incident could be hijacked by Global Powers and this guy starts to bombarding me with questions just for the sake of argument just like what he has being doing constantly with myself and other posters.

    And I'm just pointing out that your scenario isn't very likely for the points above.
    And King Mob, people are concerned about Piracy in the Indian Ocean,

    It effects Shipping lanes and is already causing shipping companies to divert around Cape Hope adding to the cost of sea freight. It is treatening the lives of innocent people.

    The price of oil is already under threat, Insurance premium for shipping, Piracy finances terrorism, Piracy finances more sophisticated artillery for future raids, If a tanker of such size was blown to pieces the ecological damage would be unthinkable. Parts of the Somalia coast are not too far from the Red sea.

    Piracy is also illegal and could draw up further conflict. If this went unchecked it could spread and has being.

    If you say that this has no significance why is there such a large international navy force present?

    So why exactly would increased naval presence be a bad thing?

    Why would it be a new world order scheme?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    King Mob wrote: »
    So why exactly would increased naval presence be a bad thing?
    It is not a bad thing if it helps to fight this scourge, You have several international navies present and the opportunity of drawing more depending on the nationalities of the ships that are hijacked. IE if an Israeli frigate gets Hijacked there is a possibility of drawing in the Israeli Navy. India is already involved. Many of these nations are not a part of any internatiional offiliation such as the UN.
    King Mob wrote: »

    Why would it be a new world order scheme?
    Just as 9/11 bonded aviation security around the world and invoked biometric chipped passports, A major incident in at sea in Somalia could well be another step towards global cooperation against marine terrorism.

    More global agreements towards a one world government do get it? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    It is not a bad thing if it helps to fight this scourge, You have several international navies present and the opportunity of drawing more depending on the nationalities of the ships that are hijacked. IE if an Israeli frigate gets Hijacked there is a possibility of drawing in the Israeli Navy. India is already involved. Many of these nations are not a part of any internatiional offiliation such as the UN.
    Heaven forbid a country protects it citizens and their property.
    Just as 9/11 bonded aviation security around the world and invoked biometric chipped passports, A major incident in at sea in Somalia could well be another step towards global cooperation against marine terrorism.
    Well piracy is not marine terrorism, it's piracy.
    And why exactly would they need to panic the public to increase naval presence in the area?
    More global agreements towards a one world government do get it? :rolleyes:
    Oh I forgot anything any government does is working towards a one world government.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    King Mob wrote: »
    Well piracy is not marine terrorism, it's piracy.
    And why exactly would they need to panic the public to increase naval presence in the area?
    "Piracy is robbery committed at sea, or sometimes on shore, without permission from a nation". If it involves RPGS and automatic weapons I would certainly classify it as marine terrorism.
    King Mob wrote: »
    Oh I forgot anything any government does is working towards a one world government.
    Like signing our constitution away through another Lisbon Referendum..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    "Piracy is robbery committed at sea, or sometimes on shore, without permission from a nation". If it involves RPGS and automatic weapons I would certainly classify it as marine terrorism.
    Ever look up the definition of terrorism?
    You probably should.
    Like signing our constitution away.
    Yea if there was actually anything that would do that.
    Luckily there isn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Piracy has existed for centuries, and this sort of event is nothing new in the 21st century. For that reason it only pops into the news when something extraordinary happens, like the taking of said super tanker. If there were any plans to make a navy taskforce it would've already happened under NATO or some other group. Even if there were such plans they would bankrupt the West, which is why piracy is still allowed exist at all-it simply costs too much to fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    911? Are they planning on slowly ramming the Empire State building or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    looking at the press over the last number of days, Piracy is getting out of hand off the coast of Somalia, Even the presence of international navies has no effect on these guys.

    Currently an oil-laden Saudi super-tanker the Sirius Star with an international crew of 25 is awaiting its faith. This ship is one of the biggest supertankers in its class.

    SiriusStar460.jpg

    There are heavily armed insurgents from Islamic factions building up along the coast with an interest in this ship. Also along the coast there are Navies from Russia, the EU, US, India. http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/11/21/africa/somalia.php

    What would happen if this ship or one similar exploded in another well photographed rigged 9/11 type spectacular with the loss of everyone on board? A huge environments catastrophe, Of course Islamic insurgents getting the blame,

    hang on you're saying that Islamic extremists exist, do you believe Al Qaeda exists?
    global panic to rapidly usher in a special international task force to police the worlds oceans.

    You do realise that there is a global international task force already in existence? An India warship recently destroyed a Somalia pirate ship, while a British ship recently killed several pirates and handed the rest over to Kenyan authorities.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Why should the public care about the Twin Towers, ah, sure it only happened in New York. :rolleyes:

    Exactly. It happened in New York.

    To put this in comparison....

    America was involved in Somalia, fighting what would by today's benchmarks be classed as terrorists. Did the world care when US troops lost their lives there? Not really - they probably got more worked up about it when they saw Black Hawk Down then they did when the events actually happened.

    In 2007, America bombed a village in Somalia. Did the world care? No...again, they'd probably care more if a film were made about it.

    Today, the Somalians have branched into piracy. They've taken in the region of 100 ships this year including a supertanker. Does the world care? Well, currently, the media and the military seem more concerned about the lives of the crew then about the massive quantities of oil in the ship. Again, if a film is made about it someday, it'll probably stir up more outrage/emotion than the ongoing events....even if the ship blows up and all hands are lost.

    If you want the public to care about a shipping disaster....then do it on the American coast, not the Somalian.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    if the oil spills into the ocean how much should we expect the price of a barrel to rise by?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    if the oil spills into the ocean how much should we expect the price of a barrel to rise by?
    1 tanker? Not very much even if at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    King Mob wrote: »
    1 tanker? Not very much even if at all.

    That tanker represents more than one quarter of Saudi Arabia's oil output apparently. So it would have some minor direct impact on prices. More significant though would be the cost of increased security and the knock on in oil prices from that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    so they wont pass the cost of the cleanup on to us at the pump? very magnanamous of them?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    javaboy wrote: »
    That tanker represents more than one quarter of Saudi Arabia's oil output apparently. So it would have some minor direct impact on prices. More significant though would be the cost of increased security and the knock on in oil prices from that.
    Plus the extra cost of diverting around the Cape Hope which will add extra time and time to the transportation of fuel and goods to the US.

    Oil companies will look for any excuse to jsck up their fuel prices and this is a good one.

    This route will also effect the cost and timing of imorts & exports between Europe, China Japan, India, Australia etc.

    routemap2.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Plus the extra cost of diverting around the Cape Hope which will add extra time and time to the transportation of fuel and goods to the US.

    Oil companies will look for any excuse to jsck up their fuel prices and this is a good one.

    This is a made up excuse?
    This route will also effect the cost and timing of imorts & exports between Europe, China Japan, India, Australia etc.

    routemap2.jpg

    So hang on a sec, your argument is that if the tanker is destroyed it will be used to create a NWO navy, which as RtdH telling us, is a bad thing.

    Alternatively ships will just have to avoid the region entirely leading to an increase of costs a bad thing.

    Why don't we just have the NWO navy fight the pirates?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Diogenes wrote: »
    Alternatively ships will just have to avoid the region entirely leading to an increase of costs a bad thing.

    Why don't we just have the NWO navy fight the pirates?

    Yet again RTDH only manages to convince me what a good thing the NWO would actually be. He always seems to draw attention to the benefits of the very thing he is railing against.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    javaboy wrote: »
    Yet again RTDH only manages to convince me what a good thing the NWO would actually be. He always seems to draw attention to the benefits of the very thing he is railing against.
    Again I could write a book about the benifits of RFID, likewise about the benefits of a global merchant navy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Again I could write a book about the benifits of RFID, likewise about the benefits of a global merchant navy.

    I know you told me before. I told you to write them and I'd promise to buy a copy. :D

    But seriously you always seem to come up with tangible reasons why technology/policy X would be a good idea and only intangible unsubstantiated reasons why it wouldn't.

    Can you please explain to me in point form the pros and cons of a global navy? Almost all I see are pros.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    javaboy wrote: »
    That tanker represents more than one quarter of Saudi Arabia's oil output apparently. So it would have some minor direct impact on prices. More significant though would be the cost of increased security and the knock on in oil prices from that.
    It's one quarter of day's production according to the BBC
    Alot but an earth shattering amount.

    so they wont pass the cost of the cleanup on to us at the pump? very magnanamous of them?
    Well it hasn't spilled yet nor is it likely to.

    Do normal oil spills add to the cost of petrol?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    javaboy wrote: »
    I know you told me before. I told you to write them and I'd promise to buy a copy. :D

    But seriously you always seem to come up with tangible reasons why technology/policy X would be a good idea and only intangible unsubstantiated reasons why it wouldn't.

    Can you please explain to me in point form the pros and cons of a global navy? Almost all I see are pros.
    A Global navy would just be the start of it. Every craft afloat would have to be registered on a global database even down to pleasure craft. (Just like all EAN/UPC/RFID on global consumer products).

    All cargo's must be etagged with track and trace so if they ever go astray they could be traced.

    All correspondence monitored and recorded through a global database.

    All crew and intending passengers must have their microchipped passports swiped prior to any sea going voyage. This information would be transmitted to the central database on a regular basis through out the voyage.

    All ships and must log into this global data base of their cargo and intended destination.

    All ships and pleasure craft must carry GPS beacons and satellite tracking mechanism.

    Failure to any of the above would be a breach of local / international law could be treated as an act of terrorism or war and drastic action taken.

    Massive increase in Global policing and surveillance throughout the globe.

    All sounds wonderful, could you imagine if Hitler or Stalin having control of such technology to monitor the seas during his reign. You would have no escape and no where to go if you wanted to resist the system.

    Remember it will soon come to a time when you will not be able to board a train, plane, travel on a bus, cross a border without swiping your NWO RFID smartcard. Refugees escaping Hitlers regime regularly used sea craft to escape Nazi occupied Europe.

    In this up and coming NWO regime it will not be so easy to escape..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    A Global navy would just be the start of it. Every craft afloat would have to be registered on a global database even down to pleasure craft. (Just like all EAN/UPC/RFID on global consumer products).

    All cargo's must be etagged with track and trace so if they ever go astray they could be traced.

    All correspondence monitored and recorded through a global database.

    All crew and intending passengers must have their microchipped passports swiped prior to any sea going voyage. This information would be transmitted to the central database on a regular basis through out the voyage.

    All ships and must log into this global data base of their cargo and intended destination.

    All ships and pleasure craft must carry GPS beacons and satellite tracking mechanism.

    Failure to any of the above would be a breach of local / international law could be treated as an act of terrorism or war and drastic action taken.

    Massive increase in Global policing and surveillance throughout the globe.

    All sounds wonderful, could you imagine if Hitler or Stalin having control of such technology to monitor the seas during his reign. You would have no escape and no where to go if you wanted to resist the system.

    Remember it will come to a time when you will not be able to board a train, plane, travel on a bus, cross a border without swiping your NWO RFID smartcard. Refugees escaping Hitlers regime regularly used sea craft to escape Nazi occupied Europe.

    In this up and coming NWO regime it will not be so easy to escape..

    Right a global navy would just be the start of it, fine. But if a global navy is such a bad thing, why can't you tell me why that is instead of changing the subject and throwing in red herrings? Very few of your points above relate directly to a global navy which is what I was asking about.

    Bringing in issues like NWO RFID smartcards is just muddying the waters and distracting from the question at hand. Fair enough if you see a global navy as a stepping stone to pave the way for a more unified approach to military and global infrastructure in general but as a standalone thing, what is wrong with a global navy?

    P.S. Do you really believe that say for example, failing to log one of containers to the central database will ever be "treated as an act of terrorism or war and drastic action taken"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    javaboy wrote: »
    Right a global navy would just be the start of it, fine. But if a global navy is such a bad thing, why can't you tell me why that is instead of changing the subject and throwing in red herrings? Very few of your points above relate directly to a global navy which is what I was asking about.

    Bringing in issues like NWO RFID smartcards is just muddying the waters and distracting from the question at hand. Fair enough if you see a global navy as a stepping stone to pave the way for a more unified approach to military and global infrastructure in general but as a standalone thing, what is wrong with a global navy?

    P.S. Do you really believe that say for example, failing to log one of containers to the central database will ever be "treated as an act of terrorism or war and drastic action taken"?
    No its all relevant. The New World Order is all about enforcing law and order throughout the world through a single governing body.

    A Global navy is useless unless there are measures laid down for it to act on and take the necessary steps. Just as there are limits layed down for our own waterways such as fishing limits and off shore territory .

    A Global navy would be in charge of policing drug traffic, piracy and illegal migration. In order for them to do so laws must be put into force such as the registering of all marine craft, logging of cargo, passenger identification and route tracking. I don't see where the problem is about mentioning "red herrings".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    This "spectacular" may now be closer than we think.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jiPfFp1FDSmocjugNu0SX_kgOlXg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri



    can you please tell where in this article, it says anything about a NWO global navy and all the other things you have come up with???


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,351 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    What would happen if this ship or one similar exploded in another well photographed rigged 9/11 type spectacular with the loss of everyone on board? A huge environments catastrophe, Of course Islamic insurgents getting the blame, global panic to rapidly usher in a special international task force to police the worlds oceans.
    We now have "What if" conspiracies?

    Piracy has been a problem for hundreds of years. Wasn't there a big fuss created by the press when former US President Gerald Ford sent the US Navy into the Indian Ocean after pirates in 1975? Did any "spectacular" rigged event occur afterwords to justify the creation of a global navy?

    "Ironic that MAERSK ALABAMA is owned/operated by same owner/operator of SS MAYAGUEZ seized by Cambodian pirates in May 1975?"
    Source: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/09/morning-buzz-pirates-hold-american-captain-hostage/

    "While many commentators have recalled Thomas Jefferson and his battles with the Barbary pirates (“the shores of Tripoli”), a more instructive comparison to the latest encounter might be drawn from President Gerald Ford’s handling of the Mayaguez incident that started on May 12, 1975."
    Source: http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/76324.html

    No global navy after Thomas Jefferson? No global navy after Gerald Ford? What's the US Navy now?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The US navy is bigger than the next 17 put together so where is the NWO supposed to get the ships.

    Oil tankers burn they don't explode in the way that fertilizer ships do.

    Ammonium nitrate explosions have wiped out ports and killed thousands in the past and still no NWO navy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome



    As sweet Jesus, bad enough the rubbish that Rtdh is claiming. But now 'the Jews' are in on it too. Lot's of people and companies own lot's of ship registered in lot's of countries so ****ing what. Or are you now saying Jew=Zionist?
    And in all fairness the Sudanese government have been shown to be complicit in the murder of their own people so I'll take what they say with a big pinch of salt if you don't mind.

    As others have mentioned I'm starting to really see the benefits of the NWO thanks to Rtdh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    We now have "What if" conspiracies?

    Piracy has been a problem for hundreds of years. Wasn't there a big fuss created by the press when former US President Gerald Ford sent the US Navy into the Indian Ocean after pirates in 1975? Did any "spectacular" rigged event occur afterwords to justify the creation of a global navy?

    "Ironic that MAERSK ALABAMA is owned/operated by same owner/operator of SS MAYAGUEZ seized by Cambodian pirates in May 1975?"
    Source: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/09/morning-buzz-pirates-hold-american-captain-hostage/

    "While many commentators have recalled Thomas Jefferson and his battles with the Barbary pirates (“the shores of Tripoli”), a more instructive comparison to the latest encounter might be drawn from President Gerald Ford’s handling of the Mayaguez incident that started on May 12, 1975."
    Source: http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/76324.html

    No global navy after Thomas Jefferson? No global navy after Gerald Ford? What's the US Navy now?
    Difference is that this has got totally out of control. The Somali Pirates have their two fingers up at the worlds elite navies. Insurance is going to sky rocket, if not already for any ship passing the Suez and out as far as traffic coming from up the cape of Good Hope.

    What me may see in the near future is legislation for electronic GPS based registration for any craft in International waters irrespective of size or nationalities. This legislation could also be in forced to curtail drug trafficking, migrating refugees and terrorist movement. A list of anyone on board would have to be logged, the purpose of journey, cargo etc. Those that do not conform could be blown out of the water by the international task force.

    9/11 brought in strict microchip tagging for passports and ID cards across the globe. It shook up international air travel and security. Something similar is now badly needed to shake up international marine travel and all it takes is something big to happen to create a need for such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    meglome wrote: »
    As others have mentioned I'm starting to really see the benefits of the NWO thanks to Rtdh.

    I'd have to agree. He's pointed out that it will lower crime rate, fraud, black markets, illegal immigration, lost pets, help with medical records, sharing of police resources, and plenty more.

    I for one welcome our new overlords.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    I'd have to agree. He's pointed out that it will lower crime rate, fraud, black markets, illegal immigration, lost pets, help with medical records, sharing of police resources, and plenty more.
    I agree with ya, until such time as they start implanting us with microchips. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    I agree with ya, until such time as they start implanting us with microchips. :rolleyes:

    So the NWO is a good thing until the chips go in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    I agree with ya, until such time as they start implanting us with microchips. :rolleyes:

    something else you have no proof off....


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    If the situation is really bad then ships can be convoyed through

    Maybe it's part of the fight against global warming

    FSM_Pirates.png

    Somalia has the highest number of Pirates AND the lowest Carbon emissions of any country. Coincidence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    So the NWO is a good thing until the chips go in?
    The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    If the situation is really bad then ships can be convoyed through

    Maybe it's part of the fight against global warming

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    Somalia has the highest number of Pirates AND the lowest Carbon emissions of any country. Coincidence?
    Oh please tell me that's true.


    EDIT: Yes it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.
    *sigh*

    How often do I have to remind people this has already happened ?

    In the last 6 years the number of people who can be tracked and traced has gone from 1 billion to 4.1 Billion. That's 61% of the global population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.

    Can you remind me why again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,344 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.

    But why?
    What benefit would tracking 6 billion people give?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.

    Is there a timeframe on the chipping? Cos if its a few hundred years away then I welcome the side effects of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    *sigh*

    How often do I have to remind people this has already happened ?

    In the last 6 years the number of people who can be tracked and traced has gone from 1 billion to 4.1 Billion. That's 61% of the global population.

    The fact that the majority of the people on the planet who can afford a mobile have one and can therefore be tracked doesn't fit into Rtdh's fantasy I'm afraid. It's all about the penetration with Rtdh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    meglome wrote: »
    The fact that the majority of the people on the planet who can afford a mobile have one and can therefore be tracked doesn't fit into Rtdh's fantasy I'm afraid. It's all about the penetration with Rtdh.
    Mobile Phones are not a true tracking system, numbers /IMEI can still be bought RTG off the shelf in supermarkets unregistered, they can get lost, stolen and change hands legally without any form of registration. Any professional criminal will know how to cover his digital prints using these devices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Mobile Phones are not a true tracking system, numbers /IMEI can still be bought RTG off the shelf in supermarkets unregistered, they can get lost, stolen and change hands legally without any form of registration. Any professional criminal will know how to cover his digital prints using these devices.

    So the chipping would only be needed for professional criminals then?


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