South of Ireland Amateur Open

slingerz · 15-07-2014 4:16pm #1

guys i'm going to be in lahinch during the time this comp is on, is it possible to spectate at the course for this?

ShivasIrons · 15-07-2014 4:59pm

slingerz wrote: »

guys i'm going to be in lahinch during the time this comp is on, is it possible to spectate at the course for this?

It is and it's encouraged. A good spot is the par three fifth or down by the 10th green from there you see 10,11,12, 13 as well as the 14th and 16th tees.

Keano · 15-07-2014 5:29pm

I'm hoping to go watch at least one day of this. Was at the the final day last year and really enjoyed.

big_drive · 15-07-2014 8:59pm

I'm thinking of going for a look as well. Chance to see some quality golf up close

Rikand · 15-07-2014 10:14pm

Well worth it for anyone thinking of going. Great to see so many great golfers up close and personal and for no cost whatsoever. Just rock up and away you go

Moggaman · 15-07-2014 10:38pm

It doesn't attract the top top amateurs anymore though... I remember watching Clarke Harrington mcginley McDowell mcgimpsey fanagan etc

Rikand · 15-07-2014 11:20pm

Moggaman wrote: »

It doesn't attract the top top amateurs anymore though... I remember watching Clarke Harrington mcginley McDowell mcgimpsey fanagan etc

Thats a silly statement imo.

Who's to say what the current crop of amateurs will or won't be able to achieve after winning the South of Ireland. Wouldn't you love to say you were there when the next top irish professional won the South of ireland as an amateur, just as you love saying about Clarke, Harrington, etc

pinkdoubleeagle · 16-07-2014 8:14am

Looking forward to this

Moggaman · 16-07-2014 11:09pm

My question simply is name the top 5 ranked Irish amateurs in the games at the moment and name how many will be in Lahinch .. If the answer is 3 or more I take your point

Whyner · 17-07-2014 1:08pm

You name them and tell us why they don't play the south? Might as well get to the point

Is it just the south they don't play?

gorfield · 17-07-2014 10:48pm

There will a usual be little or none of the top amateurs at the south yet again, Why?? Interpros finish next Thursday which is 3 days x 36h, so it's simply too much golf. Along with tht all teams are picked before if so it's become pretty irrelevant, that's set to chamge though, with new dates in 2015. To answer the question no it's not the place to see the too amateurs anymore.

Whyner · 18-07-2014 10:09am

gorfield wrote: »

There will a usual be little or none of the top amateurs at the south yet again, Why?? Interpros finish next Thursday which is 3 days x 36h, so it's simply too much golf. Along with tht all teams are picked before if so it's become pretty irrelevant, that's set to chamge though, with new dates in 2015. To answer the question no it's not the place to see the too amateurs anymore.

Cheers. So it's got an unfortunate tee time on the golfing calendar

LuckyGent88 · 26-07-2014 11:55am

Delighted Davy Fitz is getting hammered. No way he deserves to get into the tournament in the first place.

the greatest game · 26-07-2014 12:17pm

what handicap is Davy ?

Arsenium · 26-07-2014 12:30pm

the greatest game wrote: »

what handicap is Davy ?

0.6 according to the GUI website. Bit rough on Davy relishing in his demise. If he is playing in such a major amateur competition you have to think he is there on merit. I'd love to be able to play to a standard that obviously he can!!

Would this dislike be stemming from another sport I wonder??? :P

LuckyGent88 · 26-07-2014 12:36pm

Arsenium wrote: »

0.6 according to the GUI website. Bit rough on Davy relishing in his demise. If he is playing in such a major amateur competition you have to think he is there on merit. I'd love to be able to play to a standard that obviously he can!!

Would this dislike be stemming from another sport I wonder??? :P

Nope, he is a good golfer, Just not the standard for the south and I just feel he takes the place of someone more deserving. He has done this on numerous occasions.

Arsenium · 26-07-2014 12:47pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Nope, he is a good golfer, Just not the standard for the south and I just feel he takes the place of someone more deserving. He has done this on numerous occasions.

I'm just curious and not looking for an argument by the way.

But I'd love to know how you think he can be taking the place of someone more deserving? Whats the qualification criteria? A handicap cut off as I understand. So are you saying he is not a genuine 1 handicapper? From looking at the entrant sheet there are a hell of a lot of entrants with higher handicaps than he has.

The only way I could see him not being deserving is if he has an artificial handicap of 0.6 and turns up and plays to a handicap of 6 or 7. Thereby taking the place of someone more deserving.

I reckon if he makes the qualification grade he's as entitled as anyone to be there.

It appears there is no stroke play qualifying round in the South? Just straight into matchplay?

Arsenium · 26-07-2014 12:50pm

Oh dear Lord.....gone down 8&6 !! Bad day at the office :eek:

kiers47 · 26-07-2014 2:13pm

Arsenium wrote: »

Oh dear Lord.....gone down 8&6 !! Bad day at the office :eek:

From what I seen of him in the pro am at the irish open. He is more of a 5-8 handicapper. Not a chance in hell could be off 1 from what I seen that day. He duffed at 2 chips and hit poor approach shots for the 4 holes I seen him play.

big_drive · 26-07-2014 5:30pm

I've heard on more than one occasion that he's handicap is nicely lower than it should be. Should be more in the region of 4 from what I've heard. Must still have done a few decent scores to get it down there.
But there's plenty low guys out there dodging .1's and keeping their hcap down. Similar enough to the guys at the other end of the scale who manage to keep their handicap on the high side

LuckyGent88 · 26-07-2014 7:34pm

Arsenium wrote: »

I'm just curious and not looking for an argument by the way.

But I'd love to know how you think he can be taking the place of someone more deserving? Whats the qualification criteria? A handicap cut off as I understand. So are you saying he is not a genuine 1 handicapper? From looking at the entrant sheet there are a hell of a lot of entrants with higher handicaps than he has.

The only way I could see him not being deserving is if he has an artificial handicap of 0.6 and turns up and plays to a handicap of 6 or 7. Thereby taking the place of someone more deserving.

I reckon if he makes the qualification grade he's as entitled as anyone to be there.

It appears there is no stroke play qualifying round in the South? Just straight into matchplay?

IMO he is not a genuine 1 handicapper and that is well known around the clubs in Clare.

big_drive · 26-07-2014 8:15pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

IMO he is not a genuine 1 handicapper and that is well known around the clubs in Clare.

How did he manage to actually get there?

By just shooting good scores on one course I'm presuming is it?

We've a 6 handicapper at our course and he basically knows the place like the back of his hand but never plays anywhere else. Whenever he does it's usually an awful score. So he's like a 6 on our course, but a 10 outside

Keano · 26-07-2014 8:49pm

Davy may not be a 1 handicap but he played a really good golfer today so I'd rather heap praise on that guy.

Montgolfier · 26-07-2014 9:43pm

kiers47 wrote: »

From what I seen of him in the pro am at the irish open. He is more of a 5-8 handicapper. Not a chance in hell could be off 1 from what I seen that day. He duffed at 2 chips and hit poor approach shots for the 4 holes I seen him play.

I think this a bit of Irish begrudgery just because he's famous.
He had to beat his Hcp to get down to 0.6.
If you think a couple of bad approach shots and a duffed chip makes him a 6 handicapper then some of the guys on tour should be amateurs.
There golfers not machines form comes and goes look at Mcilory

Henry Ford III · 26-07-2014 9:55pm

Great day at Lahinch today. Course was good and the weather was great. More of the same tomorrow I hope......

agusta · 26-07-2014 11:12pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Nope, he is a good golfer, Just not the standard for the south and I just feel he takes the place of someone more deserving. He has done this on numerous occasions.

how many matches has he won in the south of ireland do you think?,you qualify for the south of ireland on merit!,just in case you didnt know!

PARlance · 26-07-2014 11:50pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

IMO he is not a genuine 1 handicapper and that is well known around the clubs in Clare.

Where can I read up a bit more about the Handicap System used around those clubs in Clare?

Fair play to him, 99% of golfers on here couldn't do it, yet we all seem to need just a little bit more practice time..... Sure managing a team to an All Ireland wouldn't get in the way too much I suppose

kiers47 · 27-07-2014 3:58am

Montgolfier wrote: »

I think this a bit of Irish begrudgery just because he's famous.
He had to beat his Hcp to get down to 0.6.
If you think a couple of bad approach shots and a duffed chip makes him a 6 handicapper then some of the guys on tour should be amateurs.
There golfers not machines form comes and goes look at Mcilory

Fair play to him for getting to it. But as I said from what I seen he is not a 1 handicapper. I would never begrudge anyone and he is incredibly successful at what he does but that is just my opinion. As it seems to be many peoples who have seen him play!

Montgolfier · 27-07-2014 8:19am

kiers47 wrote: »

Fair play to him for getting to it. But as I said from what I seen he is not a 1 handicapper. I would never begrudge anyone and he is incredibly successful at what he does but that is just my opinion. As it seems to be many peoples who have seen him play!

I've seen low handicappers with poor looking swings. It surprises me sometimes that their Hcp is so low.
I think they're good because of their mind set more than anything else. Getting the job done no matter how ugly. Davy is a seriously focused and competitive individual and he's not only successful at hurling, he has co/created the family fitness program and sold the TV rights around the world.
I'm a Tipperary man and supposed to hate him for that penalty he scored on us to win the all Ireland in 1999, but I can't help admire and respect the guy.

Benny Cake · 27-07-2014 8:47am

Davy will have plenty of time to focus on golf now for the rest of the summer....

kiers47 · 27-07-2014 10:57am

Montgolfier wrote: »

I've seen low handicappers with poor looking swings. It surprises me sometimes that their Hcp is so low.
I think they're good because of their mind set more than anything else. Getting the job done no matter how ugly. Davy is a seriously focused and competitive individual and he's not only successful at hurling, he has co/created the family fitness program and sold the TV rights around the world.
I'm a Tipperary man and supposed to hate him for that penalty he scored on us to win the all Ireland in 1999, but I can't help admire and respect the guy.

As a Tipp man myself I really don't know what goal your talking about that Davy scored to win an all ireland.
Also neither Clare or Tipp played in the all ireland in 1999. 1999 was the year of Joe Deane.
Tipp were beaten by Clare in the 1997 all ireland but I'm fairly sure Clare didn't score a goal on us.

Montgolfier · 27-07-2014 11:04am

kiers47 wrote: »

As a Tipp man myself I really don't know what goal your talking about that Davy scored to win an all ireland.
Also neither Clare or Tipp played in the all ireland in 1999. 1999 was the year of Joe Deane.
Tipp were beaten by Clare in the 1997 all ireland but I'm fairly sure Clare didn't score a goal on us.

Apologies Munster final either way I don't think a 14 Hcp can judge how a 1 Hcp plays golf.

kiers47 · 27-07-2014 11:15am

Montgolfier wrote: »

Apologies Munster final either way I don't think a 14 Hcp can judge how a 1 Hcp plays golf.

I really don't remember him scoring a goal to win any final against Tipp! But anyway it hardly matters.

As I stated it is my opinion. We will have to agree to disagree

Montgolfier · 27-07-2014 11:25am

kiers47 wrote: »

I really don't remember him scoring a goal to win any final against Tipp! But anyway it hardly matters.

As I stated it is my opinion. We will have to agree to disagree

Fair enough here's the clip, I was heart broken.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs6pEvYGnpo

kiers47 · 27-07-2014 11:32am

Montgolfier wrote: »

Fair enough here's the clip, I was heart broken.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs6pEvYGnpo

That match finished in a draw. Granted they won the replay. But it wasn't a match winner.

Keano · 27-07-2014 11:34am

So back to the golf!

The guy who beat Davy is 3 up thru 9 in his match today.

There is a link to live scoring through the Lahinch website

Montgolfier · 27-07-2014 11:40am

kiers47 wrote: »

That match finished in a draw. Granted they won the replay. But it wasn't a match winner.

It was a mental victory for them, anyway the guy is a legend deserves his place in the ....... (what's this thread called again?)

GreeBo · 27-07-2014 2:37pm

there is an off topic thread lads...

FixdePitchmark · 27-07-2014 6:09pm

Fair play to Davy getting to that handicap.

But in a more general sense - do you not think , lads would want to be going to that playing at least to scratch ?
If it was me (never will be) - but I'd be sort of embarrassed going to that , unless I was sure that par or lower was in me most days ?

I still admire anybody who has the balls to do it.

Rikand · 27-07-2014 7:07pm

no harm in going to something like that and testing yourself against the best golfers in the country. Really shows where your game is at!

Norfolk Enchants_ · 27-07-2014 8:53pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Fair play to Davy getting to that handicap.

But in a more general sense - do you not think , lads would want to be going to that playing at least to scratch ?
If it was me (never will be) - but I'd be sort of embarrassed going to that , unless I was sure that par or lower was in me most days ?

I still admire anybody who has the balls to do it.

It's matchplay.

FixdePitchmark · 27-07-2014 8:57pm

Norfolk Enchants_ wrote: »

It's matchplay.

No experience - just watched a few amateur events.

But - the point I'm making - there is no hiding if your game is not up to it ?

Sure your going to a championship course from the back sticks. On public display.

Fair play.

Russman · 27-07-2014 9:21pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Fair play to Davy getting to that handicap.

But in a more general sense - do you not think , lads would want to be going to that playing at least to scratch ?
If it was me (never will be) - but I'd be sort of embarrassed going to that , unless I was sure that par or lower was in me most days ?

I still admire anybody who has the balls to do it.

A lot of players in those championships rarely come within shouting distance of par though.

Keano · 28-07-2014 8:58pm

Alan Lowry, Shane's younger brother is through to the last 16 as is 63 year old Arthur Pierse.

A New earth · 29-07-2014 6:05pm

E. Griffin Vs S. Bleakley and D. Coughlan Vs R. Knightly

Henry Ford III · 31-07-2014 10:47am

I was fortunate enough to have been able see a lot of the action since Saturday. I walked the 1st semi final yesterday morning and Bleakley was highly impressive. His early scoring was excellent in a brisk wind - par, birdie, birdie, eagle, par, birdie......

The course won universal praise, and plans are afoot to change the change the dates of the event and briong the South back to it's rightful place at the very top of the list of annual golfing events in Ireland.

A New earth · 31-07-2014 11:35am

Did anybody else impress you there?

Henry Ford III · 31-07-2014 11:59am

I saw Robbie Cannon play a few holes. He was pretty good. Bleakley beat him soundly though - he won 5 holes on the trot in birdie I think.

I also saw a 2nd shot played on 17 to win a match - a serious full stop to that one.

Rippeditup · 31-07-2014 12:19pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I saw Robbie Cannon play a few holes. He was pretty good. Bleakley beat him soundly though - he won 5 holes on the trot in birdie I think.

I also saw a 2nd shot played on 17 to win a match - a serious full stop to that one.

I heard he was like 6 or 7 under by the 12th when beating Robbie. Some golf as Robbie had been playing well before then.

South of Ireland Amateur Open

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