College Football Penn St/UCF Game confirmed 2014 in Croker

JaMarcusHustle · 07-09-2014 12:03am

PADRAIC.M wrote: »

Yeah I got back onto him, he said def a 2016 and 2018 game

jack presley wrote:

The GAA have already announced that the next games are 2017 and 2019.

I wouldn't be turning to your mate for any more exclusives! :pac:

stereomatic · 07-09-2014 12:07am

How far in advance of the fixture will the teams playing be announced?

PADRAIC.M · 07-09-2014 12:31am

Fml!

KnightLight · 07-09-2014 3:05pm

stereomatic wrote: »

How far in advance of the fixture will the teams playing be announced?

Some teams have non-conf games already schedule for 2022, 2023 and so on...as these few dates get gobbled up.

I think teams have to be announced at least 18 months in advance (earlier the better) as it would help attract more fans to come to Ireland plus help work out the logistics for the game (passports for all players, etc...), all while trying to fit in their non-conf schedule strategy (more and more teams don't even want to play true road games, ala Penn State, Alabama, etc...but one neutral site game is ok).

JaMarcusHustle · 07-09-2014 3:08pm

Well Bill O'Brien confirmed that Penn State were working on a game in Ireland in February 2013, which is 17/18 months before the game took place. You can imagine discussions/preliminary talks took place in the months leading up to him confirming it, so I'd say teams will be talking about it next year and we should get an announcement or some official-speak before the 2016 season.

TO. · 07-09-2014 4:20pm

KnightLight wrote: »

UCF/Penn State game drew the largest crowd ever for an American College Football Game in Ireland (53,304), which is I think an International Attendance record for any college game played outside the USA.

They got a bigger attendance only due to the stadium sizes. Landowne Road(Aviva) only hold 49,000 for the American Football setup. I feel had Notre Dame played Navy in Croke Park there would have been a bigger crowd than Penn State and UCF.

Notre Dame/Navy organisers made the sensible choice choosing Landowne Road(Aviva) as they didn't want 20,000+ empty seats. Also they didn't have to give away or reduce prices on their tickets like the recent game to get people to attend.

All in All the GAA need to attract bigger college matchup to Dublin and do a better job selling it to regular Joe. And I say that with no disrespect to Penn State or UCF in particular.

KnightLight · 07-09-2014 4:34pm

TO. wrote: »

They got a bigger attendance only due to the stadium sizes. Landowne Road(Aviva) only hold 49,000 for the American Football setup. I feel had Notre Dame played Navy in Croke Park there would have been a bigger crowd than Penn State and UCF.

Notre Dame/Navy organisers made the sensible choice choosing Landowne Road(Aviva) as they didn't want 20,000+ empty seats. Also they didn't have to give away or reduce prices on their tickets like the recent game to get people to attend.

All in All the GAA need to attract bigger college matchup to Dublin and do a better job selling it to regular Joe. And I say that with no disrespect to Penn State or UCF in particular.

Maybe...but Notre Dame had played at Croke Park in the past...(drew 38,651 for their game vs Navy in the late 90's).

Regular-Season Games Played in Ireland
1988 – Boston College 38, Army 24 – Dublin – Attendance: 45,525
1989 – Pittsburgh 46, Rutgers 29 – Dublin – Attendance: 19,800
1991 – Holy Cross 24, Fordham 19 – Limerick – Attendance: 17,411
1992 – Bowdoin 7, Tufts 6 – Galway – Attendance: 2,500
1996 – Notre Dame 54, Navy 27 – Dublin – Attendance: 38,651
2012 – John Carroll 40, St. Norbert 3 – Dublin – Attendance: 4,877
2012 – Notre Dame 50, Navy 10 – Dublin – Attendance: 48,820
2014 - Penn State 26, UCF 24 - Dublin - Attendance: 53,304

TO. · 07-09-2014 6:45pm

KnightLight wrote: »

Maybe...but Notre Dame had played at Croke Park in the past...(drew 38,651 for their game vs Navy in the late 90's).

Regular-Season Games Played in Ireland
1988 – Boston College 38, Army 24 – Dublin – Attendance: 45,525
1989 – Pittsburgh 46, Rutgers 29 – Dublin – Attendance: 19,800
1991 – Holy Cross 24, Fordham 19 – Limerick – Attendance: 17,411
1992 – Bowdoin 7, Tufts 6 – Galway – Attendance: 2,500
1996 – Notre Dame 54, Navy 27 – Dublin – Attendance: 38,651
2012 – John Carroll 40, St. Norbert 3 – Dublin – Attendance: 4,877
2012 – Notre Dame 50, Navy 10 – Dublin – Attendance: 48,820
2014 - Penn State 26, UCF 24 - Dublin - Attendance: 53,304

The game is Europe has come a long way since 1996 especially in Ireland. Comparing the mid 90's to 2014 is pointless in this argument as the lack of media in Ireland showing the game and barely any internet connections meant that most interested in the game fell on it through passing interest of through family. Nowadays the media has converted a lot of people due to the access people have now. In fact the attendance they drew back was impressive compared to todays attendances.

Leslie91 · 08-09-2014 9:52am

KnightLight wrote: »

Maybe...but Notre Dame had played at Croke Park in the past...(drew 38,651 for their game vs Navy in the late 90's).

Regular-Season Games Played in Ireland
1988 – Boston College 38, Army 24 – Dublin – Attendance: 45,525
1989 – Pittsburgh 46, Rutgers 29 – Dublin – Attendance: 19,800
1991 – Holy Cross 24, Fordham 19 – Limerick – Attendance: 17,411
1992 – Bowdoin 7, Tufts 6 – Galway – Attendance: 2,500
1996 – Notre Dame 54, Navy 27 – Dublin – Attendance: 38,651
2012 – John Carroll 40, St. Norbert 3 – Dublin – Attendance: 4,877
2012 – Notre Dame 50, Navy 10 – Dublin – Attendance: 48,820
2014 - Penn State 26, UCF 24 - Dublin - Attendance: 53,304

Can't remember the 1996 game for the life of me, was that in Lansdowne? was Mirer playing that day? I was one of the 4877 at Donnybrook but would have thought the crowd was less than that.

BKWDR · 08-09-2014 9:54am

Was at the '89 Pittsburgh game!

Realt Dearg Sec · 08-09-2014 10:55am

Leslie91 wrote: »

Can't remember the 1996 game for the life of me, was that in Lansdowne? was Mirer playing that day? I was one of the 4877 at Donnybrook but would have thought the crowd was less than that.

It was probably about right, there was a high school game before it between a team from Chicago and one from Texas, and the Texans in particular brought a massive crowd. (Probably the most entertaining game of that weekend)

jack presley · 08-09-2014 11:08am

Leslie91 wrote: »

Can't remember the 1996 game for the life of me, was that in Lansdowne? was Mirer playing that day? I was one of the 4877 at Donnybrook but would have thought the crowd was less than that.

The '96 game was at Croker. I wasn't at that one but was at the first two in Landsdowne. I was only 13-14 at the time but I remember really enjoying them, especially the BC V Army one.

Leslie91 · 08-09-2014 3:49pm

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

It was probably about right, there was a high school game before it between a team from Chicago and one from Texas, and the Texans in particular brought a massive crowd. (Probably the most entertaining game of that weekend)

Yeah it was.. the HC of the Chicago team (Loyola was it?) was an ex Charger who played for the Bills also. Looked like a v promising young coach. Holecek is his name.

nolllaig · 08-09-2014 8:22pm

Penn State get bowl eligibility back immediately and scholarships next year.

Amerika · 09-09-2014 3:35pm

nolllaig wrote: »

Penn State get bowl eligibility back immediately and scholarships next year.

Good news, the penalties were too harsh to begin with as they mostly affected people and players that had nothing to do with the Sandusky incident. But the fact that the decision remains that Penn State must vacate 111 victories from 1998 to 2011 is bullsh!t.

KnightLight · 17-09-2014 5:40am

jack presley wrote: »

The '96 game was at Croker. I wasn't at that one but was at the first two in Landsdowne. I was only 13-14 at the time but I remember really enjoying them, especially the BC V Army one.

Correct...1996 Notre Dame game was at Croke Park (not even half full for that one).

Bateman · 17-09-2014 10:49am

That '96 game at Croker was grim alright, raining hard enough on the Hill that day and they didn't throw us into the comforts of covered seating either!

Paully D · 01-05-2015 3:40pm

So anyone who attended this game can now say they saw a 1st round draft pick in action with Breshad Perriman going at #26 to the Ravens in the 2015 draft.

johnmcdnl · 01-05-2015 7:19pm

Paully D wrote: »

So anyone who attended this game can now say they saw a 1st round draft pick in action with Breshad Perriman going at #26 to the Ravens in the 2015 draft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM3Em-4cfnE

jack presley · 03-06-2015 10:54am

http://www.the42.ie/college-american-football-2016-aviva-stadium-2139432-Jun2015/

Could be back on! But in Landsdowne which I think we all agree is a much better venue.

OU812 · 03-06-2015 11:25am

Anyone have a HD version of the Croke Park game ?

Realt Dearg Sec · 03-06-2015 12:42pm

jack presley wrote: »

http://www.the42.ie/college-american-football-2016-aviva-stadium-2139432-Jun2015/

Could be back on! But in Landsdowne which I think we all agree is a much better venue.

It's an awful, dead, soulless pit of a venue, not fit to host a Hansen comeback gig, but in terms of numbers it's more suitable than Croke Park I suppose.

OU812 · 03-06-2015 12:57pm

Unfortunately it being a smaller venue will I suspect result in a larger demand for tickets & higher price. But I'm looking forward to it if they can arrange it

SantryRed · 03-06-2015 1:57pm

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

It's an awful, dead, soulless pit of a venue, not fit to host a Hansen comeback gig, but in terms of numbers it's more suitable than Croke Park I suppose.

How is it any less soulless than Croke Park? It's a much better venue.

jack presley · 03-06-2015 2:00pm

SantryRed wrote: »

How is it any less soulless than Croke Park? It's a much better venue.

There was a great atmosphere there the day Navy played ND.

Realt Dearg Sec · 03-06-2015 3:13pm

SantryRed wrote: »

How is it any less soulless than Croke Park? It's a much better venue.

Every event I've attended there I had a sense that, full or not, an atmosphere simply can't be generated in it. That is not my experience with Croke Park (although when it's not full Croke Park can be cavernous, which is why I ultimately agree that it's better to have the event in the Aviva). It's most definitely not a better venue. For one thing, when it's full there's loads of people with horribly restricted views in the upper decks of the Aviva, either by the bars going across, or even just from seeing the big screen properly (which marred my enjoyment of the ND Navy game as it happens, and I had savage seats that day). Also when it's full Hill 16 adds tremendous atmosphere. There's no comparison for me, a full Croke Park is unforgettable.

Realt Dearg Sec · 03-06-2015 3:15pm

OU812 wrote: »

Unfortunately it being a smaller venue will I suspect result in a larger demand for tickets & higher price. But I'm looking forward to it if they can arrange it

Ah I'd say tickets will still be readily available, it just means there'll hopefully be a bit more of a sense of occasion comparing with playing it in Croke Park with half the seats empty.

jack presley · 03-06-2015 3:45pm

My issue with CP isn't the half empty stands or the empty hill but the fact that the pitch is so big and an American football layout is tiny on it.

Realt Dearg Sec · 03-06-2015 3:50pm

jack presley wrote: »

My issue with CP isn't the half empty stands or the empty hill but the fact that the pitch is so big and an American football layout is tiny on it.

True that's an issue as well in fairness, had kind of forgotten about that, remember it being an issue at soccer and rugby matches as well, but much less so once the place was full. But in AF they are already closing the front few rows because of the lack of a view of the field, so it leaves a massive gap between crowd and field that isn't good for an atmosphere even before you take in that there's so many empty seats.

OU812 · 04-06-2015 11:01am

Saturday 3 September 2016 - 12.30pm Irish time, meaning a 7.30am start for fans on the east coast in the US.

http://www.the42.ie/2016-aviva-college-american-football-game-2141636-Jun2015/

College Football Penn St/UCF Game confirmed 2014 in Croker

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