Hard Knocks

BaronVon · 27-08-2014 10:43am

Episode 4

"You're not good enough to be an asshole!"

HigginsJ · 27-08-2014 1:31pm

Channel 4 will be showing Hard Knocks at 0.55am on the 3rd of September.

Arrow in the Knee · 10-05-2015 6:46pm

Which franchise is Hard Knocks following this year?

jack presley · 10-05-2015 7:02pm

Arrow in the Knee wrote: »

Which franchise is Hard Knocks following this year?

Cleveland I think.

nasty_crash · 11-05-2015 10:08am

no official decision yet but cleveland are the favourites to do it! Although rumors are that they dont really want it because of the manziel out of rehab storyline - Texans are also meant to be considering going for it!

Eligible teams - Bucs, Browns, Giants, Jags, Rams, Redskins, Texans, Titans & Vikings

Guffy · 11-05-2015 10:13am

nasty_crash wrote: »

no official decision yet but cleveland are the favourites to do it! Although rumors are that they dont really want it because of the manziel out of rehab storyline - Texans are also meant to be considering going for it!

Eligible teams - Bucs, Browns, Giants, Jags, Rams, Redskins, Texans, Titans & Vikings

do any teams want it?

nasty_crash · 11-05-2015 10:19am

Texans are the only ones i have heard that might want it....

helimachoptor · 11-05-2015 11:23am

could see it being forced on the titans

New QB
DGB
Orakpo
Dick Le Beau

We're probably a bit boring though

Leslie91 · 11-05-2015 12:14pm

nasty_crash wrote: »

no official decision yet but cleveland are the favourites to do it! Although rumors are that they dont really want it because of the manziel out of rehab storyline - Texans are also meant to be considering going for it!

Eligible teams - Bucs, Browns, Giants, Jags, Rams, Redskins, Texans, Titans & Vikings

What does eligible mean?... I guess if you have already been featured on it then you can get out of it but there are loads of teams not on that 'eligible' list that have never been featured.

Adamcp898 · 11-05-2015 12:19pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

What does eligible mean?... I guess if you have already been featured on it then you can get out of it but there are loads of teams not on that 'eligible' list that have never been featured.

Basically the show was/is dying and the last two years in particular it was tough to get a team to actually do the show for HBO and so the NFL introduced rules to make it that some team has to do it every year.

You can get out of it though if you fall under the following headings

Under new rules implemented by the NFL last year, teams can avoid Hard Knocks if they fall under any of three exemptions: 1) A first-year head coach is in place; 2) A playoff berth in the past two seasons; 3) A Hard Knocks appearance in the past 10 years.

But you can still volunteer afaik if you want to do it.

Realt Dearg Sec · 11-05-2015 1:07pm

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Basically the show was/is dying and the last two years in particular it was tough to get a team to actually do the show for HBO and so the NFL introduced rules to make it that some team has to do it every year.

You can get out of it though if you fall under the following headings

But you can still volunteer afaik if you want to do it.

It's a shame it's dying, but realistically,you're probably right. Most teams, the big drama is the exact same every year, so we don't need to see it reiterated every year (rookies, will they or won't they make the roster...). You get characters who can make a difference (Rex Ryan, Chad Ochocinco), but if a team lacks someone like that it falls a bit flat after a few seasons of it. The Falcons had basically nobody who I really gave a damn about. Matt Ryan is more of a walking toothpaste commercial than a human with a personality and flaws. He could bore rust off a gate.

jack presley · 11-05-2015 1:26pm

Last season's was definitely the least interesting it's ever been.

slimpickens · 12-05-2015 12:53pm

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

It's a shame it's dying

It is not

Ratings were fine.

Realt Dearg Sec · 12-05-2015 2:33pm

slimpickens wrote: »

It is not

Ratings were fine.

The ratings for The Simpsons are also as high as ever, the show has still been dead for well over a decade.

slimpickens · 12-05-2015 3:37pm

I was taking dying to mean it would soon finish.

The last season (Falcons) - a few of my friends with no existing interest in NFL, watched, enjoyed and are now getting more into NFL.

Realt Dearg Sec · 12-05-2015 3:52pm

slimpickens wrote: »

I was taking dying to mean it would soon finish.

The last season (Falcons) - a few of my friends with no existing interest in NFL, watched, enjoyed and are now getting more into NFL.

Fair enough, maybe I'm just getting sick of it. But really, it's the fact that, compared with the jets and dolphins series, the falcon one was very flat and sanitised. Bring me back Chad!

That being said, maybe Johnny football will liven things up...

12-05-2015 4:02pm

to be fair i think when they could almost cherry pick teams they could get characters like rex on it that made the show. buffalo, pats, seahawks, eagles(maby I'm biased there but a chip training camp :eek:) maby broncos could all be excellent

Guffy · 12-05-2015 4:38pm

Lucas Fluffy Underarm wrote: »

to be fair i think when they could almost cherry pick teams they could get characters like rex on it that made the show. buffalo, pats, seahawks, eagles(maby I'm biased there but a chip training camp :eek:) maby broncos could all be excellent

New coach, playoff, playoff, playoff

12-05-2015 5:00pm

gufc21 wrote: »

New coach, playoff, playoff, playoff

i know that i was saying if they could cherry pick

Realt Dearg Sec · 12-05-2015 5:01pm

gufc21 wrote: »

New coach, playoff, playoff, playoff

I think that was his point.

nasty_crash · 13-05-2015 11:30am

Lucas Fluffy Underarm wrote: »

to be fair i think when they could almost cherry pick teams they could get characters like rex on it that made the show. buffalo, pats, seahawks, eagles(maby I'm biased there but a chip training camp :eek:) maby broncos could all be excellent

im not so sure on the broncos pick - elway would just be in front of the camera all the time! haha!

Definitely Eagles - with the way there off season has been - with bradford returning from injury - there could be a couple of good storylines in it!

I personally hope its Vikings from the eligible teams - AP storyline, Cordarelle Patterson getting better at zimmers offense - bridgewaters development and then seeing how Waynes gets on!

But i can see them giving it to the Browns tbh

Guffy · 13-05-2015 11:35am

Lucas Fluffy Underarm wrote: »

i know that i was saying if they could cherry pick

Mis read, woosh lol

mikemac1 · 13-05-2015 3:20pm

+1 for the Vikings, would like to see that

Mike Zimmer was on it before for the Cowboys.

Some players getting a lashing is guaranteed!

He won't be giving weak waffley answers to players like Joe Philbin or telling players one thing and than doing the opposite like Mike Smith

poldebruin · 14-05-2015 2:33am

I'd love to see the Redskins or Browns for the QB competition with RG3 and Manziel. Also, the locker room dynamic would be very interesting, driven by attitudes towards those two players. My guess is that the NFL will want to leave Manziel alone for the moment though seeing as he is rehabbing.

jack presley · 22-05-2015 6:44pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/17585/redskins-not-candidates-for-hard-knocks

Redskins out, Houston rumoured to be the front runner

Paully D · 23-05-2015 11:06am

jack presley wrote: »

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/17585/redskins-not-candidates-for-hard-knocks

Redskins out, Houston rumoured to be the front runner

The Texans just bore me to tears, J.J. Watt aside.

In that sense, they'd be a fitting pick given the way the show has gone over the last couple of years.

slimpickens · 26-05-2015 5:45pm

REally looking forward to JJ Watt and Jadeveon Clowney in practice.

26-05-2015 5:48pm

honestly if they just followed jj watt around for a few weeks it would be a better show

Morrison J · 27-05-2015 1:31pm

Ryan Mallett will be hundreds of times more interesting than Matt Ryan. I actually think this could be a decent series. Mallett, Watt, Foster, Clowney and the best CB in this draft class imo Kevin Johnson. Not too bad at all.

Knex* · 27-05-2015 2:02pm

I think its impossible not to be more interesting than Matt Ryan. Dead people are more interesting that Matt Ryan. You have to actively seek that level of boredom, to not be more interesting than Matt Ryan.

Like, you know when you're sitting on a train or a bus, or something, minding your own business, happy out. The guy next to you is doing likewise. No boredom. Guy suddenly starts talking about the most mundane thing imaginable in the most dull, monotonous fashion. Suddenly, you're simultaneously annoyed, bored, and wishing the fella would go back to looking out the window.

That's Matt Ryan.

Realt Dearg Sec · 27-05-2015 2:30pm

Arian Foster should be good if they concentrate on him, he's got an interesting Twitter account anyway. Makes a change from all the "thank Jesus for the new day" types I've unfollowed over the last couple of years.

jack presley · 27-05-2015 2:34pm

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Arian Foster should be good if they concentrate on him, he's got an interesting Twitter account anyway. Makes a change from all the "thank Jesus for the new day" types I've unfollowed over the last couple of years.

Stay well clear of RGIII on Twitter then if you want to avoid the 'Praise Jesus' tweets. He never stops.

Knex* · 27-05-2015 2:35pm

jack presley wrote: »

Stay well clear of RGIII on Twitter then if you want to avoid the 'Praise Jesus' tweets. He never stops.

With the way his career is going, you'd think he'd start believing Jesus hates him.

Leslie91 · 27-05-2015 3:40pm

Looks like it will be the Texans this year lads, per John McClain on Twitter.

Realt Dearg Sec · 27-05-2015 4:32pm

jack presley wrote: »

Stay well clear of RGIII on Twitter then if you want to avoid the 'Praise Jesus' tweets. He never stops.

Yeah I unfollowed him a good while back. Matt Forte and Alshon Jeffery are another two. If boring the balls off me was a competitive sport they'd be first round draft picks.

Paully D · 27-05-2015 5:22pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

Looks like it will be the Texans this year lads, per John McClain on Twitter.

Snore fest.

jack presley · 27-05-2015 5:50pm

Paully D wrote: »

Snore fest.

To be fair, some of the time it's the rookies trying to make the team that make the show so hopefully they'll have some characters that make the show interesting. The Atlanta rookies they focused on last year were awful.

Morrison J · 27-05-2015 8:21pm

Morrison J wrote: »

Ryan Mallett will be hundreds of times more interesting than Matt Ryan. I actually think this could be a decent series. Mallett, Watt, Foster, Clowney and the best CB in this draft class imo Kevin Johnson. Not too bad at all.

Forgot Vince Wilfork had gone there too so add him to the list...

Head coach and QB tend to be the difference between whether its boring or not each year. I definitely don't see Bill O'Brien and Ryan Mallett making it a snore fest personality wise.

27-05-2015 8:57pm

speaking of the texans whats the story with chocolate irish is he fully healthy or still coming back from it

Leslie91 · 27-05-2015 9:07pm

I look forward to seeing Jaelen Strong, the rookie WR who I've heard can be a stud and he was 'only' a 3rd rounder.

mikemac1 · 02-06-2015 5:54pm

Any thoughts if Hoyer or Mallett will win the starters job?

Hazys · 02-06-2015 6:06pm

Surely Hoyer.

Mallett has done nothing to warrant any type of consideration as a starting NFL QB.

Morrison J · 02-06-2015 6:10pm

I'd be pretty confident it'll be Mallett. Bill O'Brien obviously likes him enough from their days in New England. He's flashed some good stuff in limited starts too. You know you're getting mediocrity with Hoyer

BaronVon · 12-08-2015 9:43am

This started last night, can't find any links yet though. There were always slow to come out last year......

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adrian522 · 12-08-2015 9:44am

Probably less interest due to it being so bad last few years and low expectations again this year,

BaronVon · 12-08-2015 9:46am

Yeah, it's been going downhill the last few years, but I'm optimistic this year........:cool:

12-08-2015 9:47am

Looks like notre dame are going to have one could be interesting to see the difference betweent nfl and NCAA

Paully D · 12-08-2015 10:21am

Pound-for-pound, the Texans are arguably the most boring team in the league IMO. I'll watch it later but don't have any great expectations to be honest.

Realt Dearg Sec · 12-08-2015 10:36am

Lucas Fluffy Underarm wrote: »

Looks like notre dame are going to have one could be interesting to see the difference betweent nfl and NCAA

This year?

slimpickens · 12-08-2015 10:43am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnBavJNX6U&feature=youtu.be

Hard Knocks

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