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new google email - 1 gig of storage for free!

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  • #2
    Rabies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    loads of us taught it was an April fools joke


  • #3
    nahdoic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭nahdoic


    They certainly made a mistake doing a press release on the 1st April when they were offering a gig of storage for free and expanding into a whole new market!

    Here are some screenshots of what the service looks like now.

    http://www.shellen.com/gallery/gmail_collapsed.gif

    http://www.shellen.com/gallery/gmail_expanded.gif

    I'm sure as many others, I'd very tempted to try this out when it comes out.


  • #4
    Terminator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭Terminator


    Releasing it on April Fools Day (GMT) was kinda the whole point of it. Along with the hammy press release. They wanted to drum up internet speculation on whether or not it was another april fools trick.

    Judging by slashdot, webmasterworld, et al it was a huge success. :cool:


  • #5
    Dr. Dre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Dr. Dre


    It's not being too well received in the tech world, apparently they're gonna keep all mail on their servers as a permanent record, even when you have closed your account or let it lapse - privacy groups are up in arms.
    :dunno:


  • #6
    cgarvey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    Well I for one don't care .. for the 1GB they're giving me, I'll happily let their machines scan my email and target ads.. if they want to hold on to it, then let them .. as long as its not shared to other humans. Its not like I'd have anything top secret in my mail anyway (or if I did, I'd be encrypting it).

    .cg


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  • #7
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Would be well handy as the account you give websites when you sign up :)

    Here GMail, feast on my spam :D


  • #8
    dahamsta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Unfortunately it's not that simple cgarvey. I'd be the same as yourself in that if I have to deal with advertising, I'd prefer it was advertising that was appropriate to me. However that's not the issue. The problem is that Google will be in a position to create, store, and possibly sell very rich, extremely granular profiling data directly associated with your personal details. Of course Google says that they're committed to "not doing evil", but that data would be worth an awful lot of money. And they've got an IPO coming up...

    adam


  • #9
    Terminator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭Terminator


    I created a new account on yahoo the other day and the amount of personal information that was mandatorily required was unbelievable. It was easy enough to waffle through the form but the fact that it was required was a bit sinister.

    Google's way is much better - basically a bot will scan your email and display relevant ads. Big deal - its better than the inane banners you see on Yahoo or MSN. Besides which I've no doubt they'll soon be following Google's lead anyway.


  • #10
    Johnny Versace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/36778.html


  • #11
    cgarvey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    Roger the privacy concerns.. but it is free, and it is unlimited (in my eyes, not technically) storage. I won't be using it for sensitive emails, it won't be my main address.

    The biggest concern is sending specifics like "cgarvey views disney.com 3 times every tuesday sends 15 mails every thursday to the pope, lives at x,y, co. z, was born x/y/z, blah blah". I don't mind "cgarvey is 20-30 and lives in dublin, and likes girls, linux but hates eircom. His outgoing mails have included queries for RAM and HDD's" .. that sort of information is generic, and usually in the public domain anyway. Hell a search on boards.ie will reveal most things like that about me anyway.

    As an aside, chances are, they won't be getting valid dates of birth or addresses anyway.. that sort of info I don't like being handed out.

    So to summarise, I see the conerns, they just aren't as significant to me as others, it would seem. Most of my mail I don't care who sees, and the ones I care about are protected (and won't be sent to qmail!).

    Are there other privacy issues I'm missing?

    .cg


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  • #12
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    By the way, what is the story with signing up? doesn't seem to be a signup link on www.gmail.com / gmail.google.com

    Edit: sorry, checked the FAQs. Still in testing phase, so they're not giving out accounts to everyone.


  • #13
    daveirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


    This post has been deleted.


  • #14
    NeVeR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭NeVeR


    lol..

    man they must be buying some new servers.

    1 gig . say 1 million get an adress. and fill it

    umm you do the math.


  • #15
    daveirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


    This post has been deleted.


  • #16
    cgarvey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    And they won't be assigning the full quota per user .. how many users will use 1GB, for e.g.

    I've read on /. that the concept here is to demonstrate massive distributed computing, rather than the biggest free webmail host.

    Also, to further my last post above, the one thing that does concern me (and I question its legality, but presumably Google's lawyers have been over it) is the retention of email after account is cancelled... again I don't care, but I can see that as a privacy concern.

    .cg


  • #17
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    anyone with an account at blogger.com should now have a link saying they have been offered a trial as a tester, so I suppose this is the next step after the beta tests.

    I set up my account, and will start to shift all my info from yahoo! to it today, I dont think it will be an invasion, given that its a bot and its just ad banners, I find it hard to believe that such a large profiled company would break the law (especially as it is cracking down on internet crimes lately), especially after all the criticism theyve gotten about the service.
    To hell with Yahoo, they suck, 4mb storage, 3mb attatchments max, see you in hell

    Flogen


  • #18
    DaithiSurfer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 843 ✭✭✭DaithiSurfer


    I dont see the link :(


  • #19
    JTMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Originally posted by flogen
    anyone with an account at blogger.com should now have a link saying they have been offered a trial as a tester, so I suppose this is the next step after the beta tests.

    I have a blogger account ...
    Where is the link to set up a gmail account?


  • #20
    quarryman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,496 ✭✭✭quarryman


    i've an account at blogger.

    where's the link?

    EDIT: apparently you have to be an active user.


  • #21
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    yeah, so they say, I opened my active blogger account, and I had the sign, i went and signed up etc,
    just to see i went to another account I set up and never used (or used once), and it had the link too... maybe if you post a blog it will appear... give it a try.

    I assume they call anyone with a post from less than 1 month (or something) as an active user.

    Flogen

    (and it will appear on the righthand side of the main page when you log in)


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  • #22
    hostyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭hostyle


    I fail to see the concens that people have with their email / data privacy using gmail. Whats the difference with using hotmail, yahoo, etc? They offer free email with ads along the top. Its guaranteed they can tell who clicked what and sell on that information if they want. Why is it so bad if google does it?


  • #23
    cgarvey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    Originally posted by hostyle
    I fail to see the concens that people have with their email / data privacy using gmail. Whats the difference with using hotmail, yahoo, etc? They offer free email with ads along the top. Its guaranteed they can tell who clicked what and sell on that information if they want. Why is it so bad if google does it?

    Me to, to an extent .. the fact that they can hold on to my mail after I'm gone (and have requested my account be deleted)... again it doesn't bother me, as I won't have anything critical on there anyway, but I can see how it would be a concern.


  • #24
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    while i havent used it enough yet to avail of features such as the search engine and conversation style e-mail layout, it sure is looking pretty sweet.
    When you begin to type and addy into the to: section, it gives you a list of names from your contacts, so say you type in 'a', then any names/addresses you have stored that begin with that letter come up for you to pick, very nice feature

    and the sign up info is minimal, just your name, your nick and your password needed... thats it!

    Flogen


  • #25
    qBot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭qBot


    Originally posted by flogen
    yeah, so they say, I opened my active blogger account, and I had the sign, i went and signed up etc,
    just to see i went to another account I set up and never used (or used once), and it had the link too... maybe if you post a blog it will appear... give it a try.

    I assume they call anyone with a post from less than 1 month (or something) as an active user.

    Flogen

    (and it will appear on the righthand side of the main page when you log in)

    I just signed up there. Posted a blog, but got no link :( . Hopefully it might show up soon.

    just a question though. When u signed up for gmail did u have to use the username u had for www.blogger.com. I ask this cause the username i want is already gone on blogger.


  • #26
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    whatever name and nick you used in blogger will automatically show up in the fields for gmail, but you can change them if you like before you sign up.

    try back tomorrow and the link might appear.... you never know :D

    Flogen


  • #27
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,490 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by cgarvey
    As an aside, chances are, they won't be getting valid dates of birth or addresses anyway.. that sort of info I don't like being handed out.
    Until they decide to post out your password.*

    * Additional $7.99 handling charge


  • #28
    drrnwbb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭drrnwbb


    Originally posted by flogen
    whatever name and nick you used in blogger will automatically show up in the fields for gmail, but you can change them if you like before you sign up.

    try back tomorrow and the link might appear.... you never know :D

    Flogen

    i read somewhere they had it set up to stop people from signing up to blogger just to get gmail invites.

    ive been using blogger for a few years and i got my invite the other day, gmail is fantastic. after a week or so i got the chance to send two invites to other people (both sent). so maybe there will be more chances soon.

    dw


  • #29
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    yeah, you would probably have to have signed up before they started the offer.

    Im very impressed so far, the only problem I have is the way you enter contacts into the 'to:' field, while i like the names and addresses coming up depending on the letter you type, if your sending to alot of people it can get confusing, as you may enter the same address twice (for example, your friend joe soaps address would come up when you typle j or s, and you might click it twice). Its not a big deal, infact its very minor, but its just something that could be fixed (I'd like to see the letter recognition stay, but the option of just ticking aload of boxes and hitting OK like in yahoo mail)

    Flogen


  • #30
    qBot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭qBot


    btw, what's are the spam options like. I'd love to see if they adopted a system where the sender had to verify themselves before the account would accept the email. Only the first time that person sends of course.


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  • #31
    drrnwbb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭drrnwbb


    ive not got any spam on it yet. i saw some analysis of gmails spam abilities on a weblog: http://www.taint.org/2004/04/15/033025a.html

    but its gonna be another 5-6 months or so before gmail goes public, so lots of time for them to improve on spam analysis

    here is another one: http://www.slamaspammer.com/blog/?postid=19

    dw


  • #32
    qBot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭qBot


    Originally posted by drrnwbb
    ive not got any spam on it yet. i saw some analysis of gmails spam abilities on a weblog: http://www.taint.org/2004/04/15/033025a.html

    but its gonna be another 5-6 months or so before gmail goes public, so lots of time for them to improve on spam analysis

    here is another one: http://www.slamaspammer.com/blog/?postid=19

    dw

    thanks, those were good links. The .forward system was exactly what i wanted to set up myself.


  • #33
    alleepally
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭alleepally


    Hard to believe but there are loads of people selling the gmail accounts on ebay. bids going over $60. over 206 for sale at the moment and everyone I see on the first page I looked at has tons of bids as well.,


  • #34
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    thats amazing about ebay... why dont they just wait afew weeks until the full release??

    lol... I have 2 accounts!!
    check this:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4291&item=3675841849&rd=1
    more money than sense

    one deal of four account invites is currently selling for $250 with over a day left.

    Flogen


  • #35
    Philbert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Philbert


    They all seem to be closing for around the $50 mark.

    Alot of people are bidding too! (260+ Auctions with bids on most of them)

    How come they all cant wait till they get their own? Whats the rush??:confused:


  • #36
    alleepally
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭alleepally


    Originally posted by Philbert
    They all seem to be closing for around the $50 mark.

    Alot of people are bidding too! (260+ Auctions with bids on most of them)

    How come they all cant wait till they get their own? Whats the rush??:confused:

    I guess it might be that people want to bag a name they want. e.g. I'd like to get a specific me but I bet byt the time it's public it will be gone. I'm presuming anyone on beta will keep whatever username they select when the system goes live?


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  • #37
    qBot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭qBot


    I wonder did google see this coming. It might prompt them to release gmail to the public sooner:D Seems to me if they're ready to give peeps on blogger an account then it's ready for public consumption. Someone said it would take another 6 months but I was under the general impression that it would be in the next month. Although this pure conjecture and I might be completely off.


  • #38
    dahamsta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Google would have seen it coming, it's been happening for years. I'm pretty sure most of the listings on ebid.ie were "attractive" email addresses at one stage. (I wonder if anyone ever actually sold one. There are some extraordinarily stupid people out there like...)

    adam


  • #39
    alleepally
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭alleepally


    Originally posted by dahamsta
    Google would have seen it coming, it's been happening for years. I'm pretty sure most of the listings on ebid.ie were "attractive" email addresses at one stage. (I wonder if anyone ever actually sold one. There are some extraordinarily stupid people out there like...)

    adam

    The stuff is on Ebay and people are selling invitations to setup an account so I'm assuming a name can be chose. And yes, have a look on ebay.com and see for yourself - they are selling like hotcakes.


  • #40
    Philbert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Philbert


    Hey Flogen!

    Any chance of a few screen shots of the "interior" of Gmail?! :)


  • #41
    Philbert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Philbert


    Ooops sorry! Found some.


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  • #42
    dangerman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dangerman


    i have an account, very slick presentation. I like the way it's javascript based and everything pops into place nice and quick + the labels really are cool.

    I haven't been using it that much (haven't switched over my email officially) but i can defo see myself switiching.


  • #43
    qBot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭qBot


    Originally posted by dangerman
    i have an account, very slick presentation. I like the way it's javascript based and everything pops into place nice and quick + the labels really are cool.

    I haven't been using it that much (haven't switched over my email officially) but i can defo see myself switiching.

    how did u get one... was it through the blogger website. i've been logging in and out for the past two weeks and no luck:mad:


  • #44
    dangerman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dangerman


    how did u get one... was it through the blogger website. i've been logging in and out for the past two weeks and no luck

    i'm pretty sure that won't work. I read that only those with active blogs over the last 6 months or something like that got an invite.

    My friend in college has a friend who works in google ireland. She got an account through that, then one day got that option to invite two people in and she got me in.

    I've yet to get the option to invite...bidding starts at 200 euro... ;)


  • #45
    qBot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭qBot


    damn...., thats funny, a friend of mine has an account aswell. His brother had a friend in google ireland too. He still doesn't have an option to invite anyone though. Do u know how long it takes or is it random.


  • #46
    Terminator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭Terminator


    It seems to be an occasional thing. On mothers day (USA) there was an option to give your Mom a gmail account. Of course the person I sent the invite to wasn't my mom at all. :p


  • #47
    mneylon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    I think it's a very tasty service. The way it handles mail is very nice and shows fantastic application of the google technology.
    Some "standard" features are still absent and I know they are working on resolving some issues with certain browsers, but overall I love my gmail account.

    Dahamsta - chill out. The advertising is pushed out using the same technology as adsense, so it's just a load of robots etc., ie. no human interaction and a hell of a lot easier to deal with than Yahoo or Hotmail crap.

    Blog | Tweets



  • #48
    qBot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭qBot


    Originally posted by Terminator
    It seems to be an occasional thing. On mothers day (USA) there was an option to give your Mom a gmail account. Of course the person I sent the invite to wasn't my mom at all. :p


    ah well... i guess ill just have to wait a bit longer.:(


  • #49
    dahamsta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Originally posted by blacknight
    Dahamsta - chill out. The advertising is pushed out using the same technology as adsense, so it's just a load of robots etc., ie. no human interaction and a hell of a lot easier to deal with than Yahoo or Hotmail crap.
    That's a bizarre reply Michele, it's like you read my objection and interpreted it as binary negative response. I'll post it again so you can try to assign a deeper meaning:
    Unfortunately it's not that simple cgarvey. I'd be the same as yourself in that if I have to deal with advertising, I'd prefer it was advertising that was appropriate to me. However that's not the issue. The problem is that Google will be in a position to create, store, and possibly sell very rich, extremely granular profiling data directly associated with your personal details. Of course Google says that they're committed to "not doing evil", but that data would be worth an awful lot of money. And they've got an IPO coming up...
    Did I object to the advertising? No. Did I suggest that human interaction would be involved? No. And for the record I don't object to the advertising and I don't believe that humans are involved at any kind of integral level. Which leaves me with the question: Your reply is relevant to mine how exactly?

    Let me be clear so this doesn't happen again: It's dangerous because /at some point in the future/ the data could be used for profiling: by Google, by a new owner, by someone Google sells to, or by a Government that subpoenas the data. Get it?

    adam


  • #50
    thesteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭thesteve


    i just got an invite and my mind has gone blank on a unique name... any ideas? has to be something i can use on the cv etc, so nothin obscene!


  • #51
    Terminator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭Terminator


    Username's must be 6 characters or more so if your name was joseph soap, you could go for

    joseph@gmail.com
    josoap@gmail.com
    soapster@gmail.com

    Etc

    Try to get as close to your name as possible - something that's easy to remember. Most other users will have to add in numbers to their usernames so get a good one while you still can.


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