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Summons through post box?

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  • 01-09-2008 11:18am
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    Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭


    Hi All,

    I was stopped last December for using a mobile phone in my car. I got the fine but sent it back a few days late. I then got a latter saying that they were unable to accept payment. That was it. No further instructions or anything. I assumed that it had been cancelled for some technicality or something.

    Anyway, forgot all about it until this weekend. On Sunday morning I got up to find an envelope that had been put through my letter box. It had now postage marks and was not even sealed. It is a summons to appear at court this Friday for the above charge that had an issue date of 22 Feb.

    Now I have no interest in contesting the charge but don't think that I should risk getting 4 points instead of 2 when I did nothing wrong.

    From reading the rules on a summons I thought it have to be delivered by registered post within 21 days or in person within 7 days? I had neither. Doe that make it invalid?

    Also, would I be better off just explaining the situation to the judge and hope that he does not give me extra points?

    If I contact the Garda involved would we be able to sort it out before going to court.

    Thanks for the advice.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    You could try the Garda, but I'd say it's a bit late...........you could tell him you did send it in, and ask him to mention that when he's called on the day.

    You should also tell the judge - but make sure you have evidence of that sending, and the response - he has discrection - the extra points are not automatic.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭chrisp2281


    Robertr wrote: »
    Hi All,

    I was stopped last December for using a mobile phone in my car. I got the fine but sent it back a few days late. I then got a latter saying that they were unable to accept payment. That was it. No further instructions or anything. I assumed that it had been cancelled for some technicality or something.

    Anyway, forgot all about it until this weekend. On Sunday morning I got up to find an envelope that had been put through my letter box. It had now postage marks and was not even sealed. It is a summons to appear at court this Friday for the above charge that had an issue date of 22 Feb.

    Now I have no interest in contesting the charge but don't think that I should risk getting 4 points instead of 2 when I did nothing wrong.

    From reading the rules on a summons I thought it have to be delivered by registered post within 21 days or in person within 7 days? I had neither. Doe that make it invalid?

    Also, would I be better off just explaining the situation to the judge and hope that he does not give me extra points?

    If I contact the Garda involved would we be able to sort it out before going to court.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Unfortunately, a garda no longer has to hand deliver a summons or send it by registered post. You are better off just going to court, pleading guilty and saying that you will pay the original fine and accept the 2 points. This normally will suffice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    That summons is maybe more than 6 months out of date making it invalid.

    Someone with a legal mind might know more on this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    gurramok wrote: »
    That summons is maybe more than 6 months out of date making it invalid.

    Someone with a legal mind might know more on this.
    On the summons it will specify "on date an application to the court". If that date is within 6 months after the offence then the summons is legal. I haven't come across a summons which was statute barred yet.

    The summons can be served after six months


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