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chinacup · 31-01-2014 1:11pm

pickarooney wrote: »

They've made the Adam character far too nice this season. I don't trust it at all.

Ya it doesn't suit him. And trying to make Hannah too cold. It should be the other way round where Hannah gets burned like how it would probably be in real life.

Mardy Bum · 31-01-2014 1:57pm

arf91 wrote: »

Ya it doesn't suit him. And trying to make Hannah too cold. It should be the other way round where Hannah gets burned like how it would probably be in real life.

Would it? No girls are self-centred egotists?
She is also a writer/artist in the making so they are usually self-centred anyway.

chinacup · 31-01-2014 2:06pm

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Would it? No girls are self-centred egotists?
She is also a writer/artist in the making so they are usually self-centred anyway.

Yes they are and I know plenty but in terms of these two personalities he seems more emotionally shut down to me.

S.M.B. · 04-02-2014 2:35am

Another cracker of an episode although it probably could have benefited from focusing solely on Hannahs storyline. Possibly it's funniest episode so far and just as dark if not darker than always.

The show has been incredibly consistent so far this season.

MacBoogerBalls · 25-03-2014 9:59am

Ouch...

Season Finale ends on a bit of a downer for all the Girls.

FouxDaFaFa · 25-03-2014 11:15am

MacBoogerBalls wrote: »

Ouch...
Season Finale ends on a bit of a downer for all the Girls.

I thought the very last scene kind of had it go out on a positive note.

It's not often we see Hannah be honestly proud of herself and have a reason to be, not just posturing.

hfallada · 25-03-2014 11:17am

I thought it was a really good ending. For the first time in the 3 seasons, the characters are taking responsibility for their actions rather blame others as usual

irish son · 27-03-2014 1:13am

Season 3 was the best season so far, loved the last scene with Hannah smiling with the letter.

K4t · 21-01-2015 4:48am

Very watchable show.

Hopefully this is the season Hannah attempts to go on a diet.

macyard · 21-01-2015 4:54am

K4t wrote: »

Very watchable show.

Hopefully this is the season Hannah attempts to go on a diet.

Is this still going? Didn't the main actress wright a book in which she confessed to sexually abusing her underage sister when she was younger?

I though hbo would pull the series

K4t · 21-01-2015 5:04am

macyard wrote: »

Is this still going? Didn't the main actress wright a book in which she confessed to sexually abusing her underage sister when she was younger?

Nah, she was only 7 and simply examined her sister's genitals who was 1 at the time. It's normal enough behaviour.

I though hbo would pull the series

They probably gave her a raise. Season 4 started on sky atlantic recently. Hannah is in grad school in Iowa being strong-willed, witty and fat.

macyard · 21-01-2015 5:07am

K4t wrote: »

Nah, she was only 7 and simply examined her sister's genitals who was 1 at the time. It's normal enough behaviour.

They probably gave her a raise. Season 4 started on sky atlantic recently. Hannah is in grad school in Iowa being strong-willed, witty and fat.

If it was a boy examing his sister would it be ok? What about giving her candy for kisses like adults do.

It was all very creep and predatory

_Whimsical_ · 21-01-2015 5:11am

macyard wrote: »

Is this still going? Didn't the main actress wright a book in which she confessed to sexually abusing her underage sister when she was younger?

I though hbo would pull the series

No she wrote a book and parts were taken very dramatically out of context and people on the internet who did not read the book thought she had. You'd have to be a bit twisted to read the book and come away going yeah that's abuse though .

I don't like the seriss at all.

K4t · 21-01-2015 5:14am

macyard wrote: »

If it was a boy examing his sister would it be ok?

Of course. Why not? As I said, it's normal behaviour for siblings of that age and most psychologists/psychiatrists will back me up on this.

What about giving her candy for kisses like adults do.

She was 7 and it was her baby sister.

It was all very creep and predatory

No, it wasn't. That you would view it as being any of those things says more about your own insecurities.

macyard · 21-01-2015 5:20am

K4t wrote: »

Of course. Why not? As I said, it's normal behaviour for siblings of that age and most psychologists/psychiatrists will back me up on this.
She was 7 and it was her baby sister.

No, it wasn't. That you would view it as being any of those things says more about your own insecurities.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/lena-dunham-describes-sexually-abusing-her-toddler-sister

Masterbating beside her, candy for prolonged kisses, spreading open her sisters vagina. This is from her own book.

This is not normal behaviour.

I am glad my siblings where not like her anyway it would have scared me for life

_Whimsical_ · 21-01-2015 2:36pm

macyard wrote: »

If it was a boy examing his sister would it be ok? What about giving her candy for kisses like adults do.

It was all very creep and predatory

A boy of seven being curious about genitals, totally normal.
To be clear there was no mention of "kisses like adults do". Her sister was not affectionate, not the baby she dreamed would be her adoring little sister. She gave her sweets in exchange for baby kisses, she was only 6 years older than the sister.The younger child was 4 when Lena was 10, the bribing for kisses or for playing games went on when the youngest child was a toddler.

That people made something sexual of the innocents actions of a child less than 10 is a scary reflection on humankind. I realise you didn't read the book and you're reacting to hearsay so I don't mean you, but it is disturbing how this story ever took wings.

Frank O. Pinion · 21-01-2015 8:24pm

Did she or didn't she spread open her sister's vagina? That to me, is where things get a little hairy.

S.M.B. · 21-01-2015 10:54pm

Ugh, already nearly as many posts about Dunhams book as there was during the entire third season.

I really enjoyed the first episode of season 4 but thought the second episode was one of the weakest of the entire series.

Andrew Rannells being upgraded to a series regular gets a massive thumbs up from me though.

Rosy Posy · 22-01-2015 1:13am

I actually really enjoyed her book, and the honesty and humour with which she expresses herself, both on paper and on screen (although I did find Tiny Furniture a bit dull and self consciously artsy). The sister thing is a total storm in a teacup. The 'Barry' thing was more worrying to me, but I think she has to share responsibility at least equally with the publisher for not fact checking and making it clear that it was a pseudonym.

I'm liking the new season although I wonder how they're going to keep the story lines going between New York and Iowa. I felt like Jessa's story is just sort of tacked on. Loved the jazz brunch scene in the first episode, and Hannah's interactions with her new classmates- they had that trademark Girls cringe factor.

K4t · 22-01-2015 1:15pm

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Did she or didn't she spread open her sister's vagina?

Did a 7 year old girl spread open her 1 year old sister's vagina? I'm struggling to understand why any stranger would want to know the answer to that question.

That to me, is where things get a little hairy.

Don't be ridiculous, neither of them had reached the age of puberty.

Frank O. Pinion · 22-01-2015 11:44pm

K4t wrote: »

Did a 7 year old girl spread open her 1 year old sister's vagina?

Well...did she?

K4t wrote: »

I'm struggling to understand why any stranger would want to know the answer to that question.

Why would a stranger struggle to understand what any stranger wants to know?

K4t · 23-01-2015 5:57am

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Well...did she?

I neither know nor care as it is none of mine or anyone else's business. Why are you so desperate to know?

Why would a stranger struggle to understand what any stranger wants to know?

I don't know, you tell me.

Frank O. Pinion · 23-01-2015 10:45am

K4t wrote: »

I neither know nor care as it is none of mine or anyone else's business.

I'd say its her parents business, at least. Maybe you wouldn't care if you caught your 7 year old splitting open your 1 year old's vag like a ham sandwich, but I'd at least have a chat with her.

K4t wrote: »

Why are you so desperate to know?

I'm beyond desperate. There is nothing else more important to me. NOTHING.

Why are you so desperate to know why I want to know?

K4t · 23-01-2015 12:47pm

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Maybe you wouldn't care if you caught your 7 year old splitting open your 1 year old's vag like a ham sandwich, but I'd at least have a chat with her.

You're right, I wouldn't care. A chat about what exactly?

Why are you so desperate to know why I want to know?

I'm not, I'm simply curious.

Why are you so desperate to know why I want to know why you are so desperate to know?

Frank O. Pinion · 23-01-2015 1:07pm

K4t wrote: »

You're right, I wouldn't care. A chat about what exactly?

That it's not okay to spread open a baby's vagina? That's it's not okay to use a baby as your biological playtoy? I wouldn't scream or shout at her, or try to make her feel bad, I would explain to her that while it's okay to be curious about our own and other's bodies, we don't have the right to feel and touch each other's bodies, without permission. I would explain that she can inspect her own vagina, in her bedroom or in the bathroom, but she can't just go up to her little sister's vagina and start spreading it.

Or maybe in your house it's, "What's little Sally doing? Ah sure, she's just spreading her sister's vaginal lips apart...drink your tea."

K4t wrote: »

I'm not, I'm simply curious.

Exactly. We'll are just curious cats here.

K4t wrote: »

Why are you so desperate to know why I want to know why you are so desperate to know?

See, wanting to know why someone wants to know something can be pretty pointless.

K4t · 23-01-2015 1:20pm

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

That it's not okay to spread open a baby's vagina? That's it's not okay to use a baby as your biological playtoy? I wouldn't scream or shout at her, or try to make her feel bad, I would explain to her that while it's okay to be curious about our own and other's bodies, we don't have the right to feel and touch each other's bodies, without permission. I would explain that she can inspect her own vagina, in her bedroom or in the bathroom, but she can't just go up to her little sister's vagina and start spreading it.

Fair enough, it's your choice as a parent, but you're creating a situation where there isn't one is what I'm trying to say.

Or maybe in your house it's, "What's little Sally doing? Ah sure, she's just spreading her sister's vaginal lips apart...drink your tea."

I don't drink tea.

See, wanting to know why someone wants to know something can be pretty pointless.

Interesting nonetheless when it relates to prepubescent sibling girls' vaginas.

K4t · 23-01-2015 5:29pm

Nearing the end of season 1, this is fucking great. Really, really great.

Haven't felt this way about a comedy series since Curb Your Enthusiasm. New, different, in your face. Girls cums in your face and expect you to laugh. It has flaws, several, but somehow that makes it even better. Very impressed.

eviltimeban · 23-01-2015 5:36pm

I liked the last two episodes (that bit with Marnie having her end away - jaysis!) but would like there to be more Adam - he's obviously off shooting Star Wars. He's a great character and very funny.

I fear with Hannah in Iowa the show might be less "Girls" and more "Girl" - I know she's the star but the others' stories added a different layer and made it more interesting.

K4t · 23-01-2015 5:39pm

eviltimeban wrote: »

(that bit with Marnie having her end away - jaysis!).

Did that really shock or surprise people? Or are they pretending?

Agree about Adam. Great character.

Rosy Posy · 23-01-2015 9:18pm

K4t wrote: »

Agree about Adam. Great character.

I love the way he's been developed through the show. Is it bad that, as a woman and a feminist (don't shoot!) that my favourite characters in this show are Adam and Elijah?

S.M.B. · 23-01-2015 9:54pm

Rosy Posy wrote: »

I love the way he's been developed through the show. Is it bad that, as a woman and a feminist (don't shoot!) that my favourite characters in this show are Adam and Elijah?

Nope, I think the female protagonists are portrayed warts and all whereas the likes of Elijah and Adam aren't given the same harsh treatment. Ray is probably the only other truly 'likeable' character on the show.

Rosy Posy · 24-01-2015 12:11pm

S.M.B. wrote: »

Nope, I think the female protagonists are portrayed warts and all whereas the likes of Elijah and Adam aren't given the same harsh treatment. Ray is probably the only other truly 'likeable' character on the show.

In fairness, the men (boys?)in the show are hardly all roses either! All of the characters are refreshingly, honestly human, and the show doesn't shy away from highlighting their flaws. I kind of flip flop between loving and hating the characters. Shoshanna's having a moment for me atm, even though she was the most annoying for me in the first season. I'm still waiting for Marnie to do something to make me like her.

macyard · 24-01-2015 12:58pm

K4t wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous, neither of them had reached the age of puberty.

What about masterbating in the bed beside her when she was 17 the sister would have been 11 roughly, she had reached the age of puberty, what age where the candy for kisses at that she described as predatory.

I really don't know how she thought people would react when reading the book, did she think women cannot be abusers so it would not cause an issue

S.M.B. · 24-01-2015 2:29pm

Rosy Posy wrote: »

In fairness, the men (boys?)in the show are hardly all roses either! All of the characters are refreshingly, honestly human, and the show doesn't shy away from highlighting their flaws. I kind of flip flop between loving and hating the characters. Shoshanna's having a moment for me atm, even though she was the most annoying for me in the first season. I'm still waiting for Marnie to do something to make me like her.

Yeah, the guys don't get away scot-free either.

I think Shoshannas great. Maybe my favourite character on the show these days.

Marnie is probably the least likeable out of the entire bunch but I still think she's a great character to have on the show.

Rosy Posy · 25-01-2015 1:55am

S.M.B. wrote: »

Yeah, the guys don't get away scot-free either.

I think Shoshannas great. Maybe my favourite character on the show these days.

Marnie is probably the least likeable out of the entire bunch but I still think she's a great character to have on the show.

Absolutely, I love her scenes, especially the singing. I'm kind of disappointed that her music seems to have improved with Dessie on board!

MakeEmLaugh · 03-03-2015 4:31pm

This week's episode (Season 4, Episode 7, where Hannah began working in a high school, with a guest appearance from Zachary Quinto) was the worst of this season so far, and probably worse than the episode in Season 2 with Patrick Wilson.

I kept waiting for the rose-tinted, masturbatory dream sequence at the beginning to end, before realising that, no, this is actually what Lena Dunham thinks working in a high school is like.

Only someone whose parents earned their living from being 'artists' could create something so preposterous.

Mardy Bum · 03-03-2015 9:49pm

MakeEmLaugh wrote: »

This week's episode (Season 4, Episode 7, where Hannah began working in a high school, with a guest appearance from Zachary Quinto) was the worst of this season so far, and probably worse than the episode in Season 2 with Patrick Wilson.

I kept waiting for the rose-tinted, masturbatory dream sequence at the beginning to end, before realising that, no, this is actually what Lena Dunham thinks working in a high school is like.

Only someone whose parents earned their living from being 'artists' could create something so preposterous.

She made a point of discussing how different that particular High School is compared to normal high schools when she was talking to the other teacher in the bar. It is a school where the kids are smarter than the teachers by all accounts.
Both of those episodes you mention were actually quite good.

MakeEmLaugh · 03-03-2015 10:29pm

Mardy Bum wrote: »

She made a point of discussing how different that particular High School is compared to normal high schools when she was talking to the other teacher in the bar.

And we're supposed to believe that a person with no previous teaching experience or qualifications would land a job as a substitute within weeks of the idea occurring to her? And high-five her students on the way out of class?

I've worked in secondary education. Dunham's portrayal of it is laughably, hopelessly inaccurate.

Mardy Bum · 03-03-2015 11:46pm

MakeEmLaugh wrote: »

And we're supposed to believe that a person with no previous teaching experience or qualifications would land a job as a substitute within weeks of the idea occurring to her? And high-five her students on the way out of class?

I've worked in secondary education. Dunham's portrayal of it is laughably, hopelessly inaccurate.

I also work in it. That school is not normal. That is why they joke about it in the bar and make a point of saying one of the teachers didn't finish middle school. The kids are smarter than the teachers. Well a person who was accepted on into the MFA in Iowa (a staggering amount of successful writers have either been students or taught on the course) would probably get a job teaching English in any school. It is the most illustrious writing programme in the world. She has worked as a copy writer with a major magazine as well. It is very believable that she got a substitution position. Her parents are also professors.

The high fives is meant to show how immature she is still despite her experiences.

S.M.B. · 05-03-2015 1:55am

It was also an excellent episode. One of the best of the entire series in my opinion.

MakeEmLaugh · 10-03-2015 1:04am

I came close to disclocating my eyeballs from the amount of times I rolled them during this week's episode (the one where Hannah went to a piercing studio with one of her students).

Nom De Guerre · 21-07-2015 4:43pm

I just discovered this yesterday and am absolutely ADDICTED now

24 Hours From Tulsa · 09-08-2015 2:58pm

Any fans?

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