Carlow Local Elections

hughj · 20-05-2009 1:10am

patrickc wrote: »

and not as mod here as poster, i met you out putting up your posters last week, gf said his surname is like yours and i said what i think ok Fianna fail people , not sure if you remember me or not

I think I remember alright (dont remember the surname bit mind you)
I understand a lot of the anger aimed at my party but there are plenty like me in the party who want to improve our local community and we have great people in the grassroots here in Carlow I am proud to be part of the Carlow organisation, but thats enough self promotion from me

On the matter of the email I take your point so if anyone wants to contact me feel free to send me a PM

patrickc · 20-05-2009 1:18am

hughj wrote: »

I think I remember alright (dont remember the surname bit mind you)
I understand a lot of the anger aimed at my party but there are plenty like me in the party who want to improve our local community and we have great people in the grassroots here in Carlow I am proud to be part of the Carlow organisation, but thats enough self promotion from me
On the matter of the email I take your point so if anyone wants to contact me feel free to send me a PM

i really want many of you to call to the door, and answer some honest questions for me....

hughj · 20-05-2009 1:31am

patrickc wrote: »

i really want many of you to call to the door, and answer some honest questions for me....

I am trying my best to get to as many houses as I can on the evenings I can get off work but I managed to get two weeks unpaid leave starting this sat so I will be out every night from then.
I hope I will get to your door and I wont be spouting any bull when I do, I have a number of issues locally that I want resolved and I have come across more on my canvass that are shocking to say the least

patrickc · 20-05-2009 1:37am

hughj wrote: »

I am trying my best to get to as many houses as I can on the evenings I can get off work but I managed to get two weeks unpaid leave starting this sat so I will be out every night from then.
I hope I will get to your door and I wont be spouting any bull when I do, I have a number of issues locally that I want resolved and I have come across more on my canvass that are shocking to say the least

i hope to see you so, cos of the 2 canditates that did call, they were opposed to what i said, but it will be happening soon

Villain · 20-05-2009 7:37am

Hugh if this is your first time to run for elections in Carlow local elections, I hope you have your eyes wide open if you do get elected (unlikely given your party choice).

I had a new FF candidate call to my door and I gave her a little lesson in what happens in the council that affects my area and she was shocked and even laughed at some of what I said but I had facts to back them up, she left a little disillusioned

stick-dan · 20-05-2009 8:40am

testicle wrote: »

I'll vote for this one, and hope to jaysus she gets new election posters.

Villain wrote: »

I wouldn't vote for Fianna Fail even if was running for them:

Butch09 wrote: »

all these lads are the same. a pack of good for nothing wasters, promis the sun moon and stars and give nothing. waste of time and money!!!!

Lads i know you mean it in light hearted banter and all but you have already been asked to stick to saying who you are voting for and why. Can you please just stick to the topic at hand and make informed opinionated posts.

Regards
Dan

hughj · 20-05-2009 12:29pm

Villain wrote: »

Hugh if this is your first time to run for elections in Carlow local elections, I hope you have your eyes wide open if you do get elected (unlikely given your party choice).

I had a new FF candidate call to my door and I gave her a little lesson in what happens in the council that affects my area and she was shocked and even laughed at some of what I said but I had facts to back them up, she left a little disillusioned

Oh Im fully aware of the way the council works so my eyes will be open alright. As for my party of choice there is one thing that people seem to forget and its this.....
Fine Gael with the help of labour hold the balance of power in Carlow Councils and have for as long as I can remember but they are the ones going around Carlow talking about the need for change its almost laughable

Villain · 20-05-2009 1:19pm

Oh don't get me wrong Hugh I wasn't saying FG are any better than FF, I would Tar them both with the same brush.

But the fact remains that FF are currently taking decisions that are just plainly wrong and no matter what you say about local elections been about the candidate rather the party, that imo is only the case with Independents as to be a member of party in my mind means you support that party and its decisions.

Take one example, the case of the Cervical Cancer Vaccine, that was a FF decision so whether you like it not you have supported that decision by choosing to run for that party, I honestly don't know how anyone could support that.

FG likewise when Noonan was Health Minsiter made seriously bad decisions in relation to Brigid McCole and Hep C, what we need in this state is a shift from the normal accepted choice of either FG or FF

leincar · 20-05-2009 10:44pm

Evening all,

Just a few thoughts and observations on the up-coming elections.

Can anyone explain why there are County Carlow Council elections, also Carlow Town council and Bagnelstown Town council elections?

The Bagnelstown Town council is particularly mystifying(to me most things are) but Bagnelstown population at 2,532 is just over 500 smaller than Tullows. Bagnelstown elects nine Councillors to its Town council as does Carlow Town with five times the population.

In Tullow there are only six candidates standing for election for four seats. So whether people like it or not, with three Fine Gael candidates surely going to dilute the vote, Fianna Fail are assured of one and perhaps two seats. According to County Carlows website Tullow councillor John Pender is listed as a Public Representative. Should it not also say that he has a painting and decorating business. I only know this as I invited him to leave my house four years ago due to the nature of his workmanship.

For a party that at present is in coalition in Dail Eireann and with a T.D. from this constituency there is one green councillor standing for election in Borris and no other candidates in the other constituencies. Despite the fact that I would not be voting for them I feel this reflects badly on them as a party.

I also notice in The Ireland East constituency for the Euro-Elections they have no candidate standing despite the fact that they had a sitting M.E.P. up to the 2004 election and Mary White polled over 25,000 1st preference votes in the 2004 election.

In Borris there are four seats being contested. As I stated in a previous post I will not be voting for Fianna Fail or the Greens. That leaves me with one Labour and two Fine Gael candidates. Could any one tell me if the two Independents, Billy Nolan and Charlie Murphy are real Independents or members of the wider Fianna Fail family?

Finally I'm a postal voter as I work abroad a lot. I found out today that when my postal ballot arrives I have to go in person to Carlow Garda station to have my I.D. scrutinised as being valid. Surely this defeats the purpose of the postal vote for certain people. It better arrive before the 27th as I'm gone from the 28th of May for five weeks.

Observations over. I need to lie down now.

Villain · 21-05-2009 8:44am

Pender is employed as M.J. Nolan's Pariamentary Handler, so he's a full time politician really

tombull82 · 22-05-2009 4:17am

patrickc wrote: »

but it will be happening soon

PatrickC, Curiosity is killing me. Whats this you refer to or have I taken something up wrong?

patrickc · 22-05-2009 2:23pm

tombull82 wrote: »

PatrickC, Curiosity is killing me. Whats this you refer to or have I taken something up wrong?

it's just something to do with work, can't say really, but want the politicans opinions on it when they come a knocking

tombull82 · 22-05-2009 8:05pm

patrickc wrote: »

it's just something to do with work, can't say really, but want the politicans opinions on it when they come a knocking

OK Fair enough so.

tombull82 · 22-05-2009 8:09pm

Just realized that I'm working days on the 5th of June so I'll be leaving Carlow at 05.30 and not arriving home until about 20.30.

Just wondering am I correct in thinking that the polling station's are open until 21.00hrs?

hughj · 22-05-2009 8:52pm

tombull82 wrote: »

Just realized that I'm working days on the 5th of June so I'll be leaving Carlow at 05.30 and not arriving home until about 20.30.

Just wondering am I correct in thinking that the polling station's are open until 21.00hrs?

I think they are open untill 10:00pm at least they were for the last election

testicle · 25-05-2009 1:07pm

tombull82 wrote: »

Just wondering am I correct in thinking that the polling station's are open until 21.00hrs?

0700->2200

SV · 25-05-2009 1:19pm

testicle wrote: »

0700->2200

yup, got the voting cards today.

patrickc · 25-05-2009 1:48pm

as did i. my first ever...:D

Nead21 · 26-05-2009 12:07pm

does anyone know what candidates i can vote for in my area? i vote in Bishop Foley school, and i have been reading up on some of the candidates but i can't figure out if they are actually in my area (am i wrong is saying they've changed the areas??)

usually give Sinn Fein a vote, but dont think their candidate is in my area....:o

on a separate note, i missed the TWO candidates who called to my door...raging!! needless to say, as a teacher, FF will not be getting a friendly response from me! :mad:

patrickc · 26-05-2009 12:30pm

Nead21 wrote: »

does anyone know what candidates i can vote for in my area? i vote in Bishop Foley school, and i have been reading up on some of the candidates but i can't figure out if they are actually in my area (am i wrong is saying they've changed the areas??)

usually give Sinn Fein a vote, but dont think their candidate is in my area....:o

on a separate note, i missed the TWO candidates who called to my door...raging!! needless to say, as a teacher, FF will not be getting a friendly response from me! :mad:

http://www.localelections.ie/

have a look here, myself and kia were trying to figure it out last night too, and this site seems to have it best with a map, the only thing is they seem very based towards one candiate

Sully · 26-05-2009 12:38pm

patrickc wrote: »

http://www.localelections.ie/

have a look here, myself and kia were trying to figure it out last night too, and this site seems to have it best with a map, the only thing is they seem very based towards one candiate

Shame they took the URL for a website that only offers information in two areas.

Nead21 · 26-05-2009 1:53pm

thanks patrick

patrickc wrote: »

http://www.localelections.ie/the only thing is they seem very based towards one candiate

hahaha....it would almost seem that its "sponsored" by that candidate!! :rolleyes:

stick-dan · 26-05-2009 2:18pm

Very funny but i would have to say if michael was in my locality he'd be getting my vote. He's a lovely man and very very helpful. I'm saying this on personal experience. Definitely hope he gets voted in

Stevecw · 26-05-2009 5:14pm

Hmm i got 3 voting cards!! 2 with my name, but 2 different endings to my address. And another with my proper address but with middle name included!

That explains why i got 3 flyers for every candidate while rest of my house got only 1!!

So that means as 1 person i have 3 votes!! :pac:

leincar · 26-05-2009 5:14pm

My postal ballot has just arrived.

Best of luck to all candidates. I won't be here to get the results. I'm out of the country from Thursday

testicle · 26-05-2009 9:54pm

patrickc wrote: »

http://www.localelections.ie/

have a look here, myself and kia were trying to figure it out last night too, and this site seems to have it best with a map, the only thing is they seem very based towards one candiate

He's the only one to sign up to it. The others haen't

hughj · 27-05-2009 12:58am

testicle wrote: »

He's the only one to sign up to it. The others haen't

Yeah thats true it was way too expensive for me cus Im working on a tight budget

Nead21 · 27-05-2009 10:37am

Stevecw wrote: »

Hmm i got 3 voting cards!!

i get 2 voting cards every time, since i registered to vote in 1999....sadly was never allowed to vote twice!

Morf · 27-05-2009 6:10pm

Nead21 wrote: »

i get 2 voting cards every time, since i registered to vote in 1999....sadly was never allowed to vote twice!

You would be committing fraud if you did.

Sully · 27-05-2009 7:42pm

hughj wrote: »

Yeah thats true it was way too expensive for me cus Im working on a tight budget

As a FF candidate.. you need all the help you can get

Hows it going on the doors anyway? Is it as tough as some (incl. FF) candidates are making it out to be?

patrickc · 27-05-2009 8:23pm

Sully wrote: »

As a FF candidate.. you need all the help you can get

come on sully you know better than anyone here to keep it on topic it's been said already here..

Sully · 27-05-2009 8:34pm

patrickc wrote: »

come on sully you know better than anyone here to keep it on topic it's been said already here..

Oops. Added to my post to keep things on course

Nead21 · 28-05-2009 10:04am

Morf wrote: »

You would be committing fraud if you did.

i didnt know it was fraud to be assuming the identity of myself!!

Sully · 28-05-2009 3:19pm

Nead21 wrote: »

i didnt know it was fraud to be assuming the identity of myself!!

You can't vote twice, regardless of who many cards ya get

oldmillgal · 31-05-2009 1:54pm

It seems to me that there are a number of issues which need to be taken into account regarding the local elections.

The candidates putting themselves forward in these economically uncertain times need to ask themselves why they are getting involved with county councils?

Is it an economic decision... ie extra income for the next five years and expenses to boot?

Do they really want to make a difference?

In my opinion the only times I see these people at my door, in the paper or emblazoned on road signage ( in some cases leaving the driver in doubt as to what is under the sign post... a dangerous thing!) is when they want me to vote for them. What have they done for me or indeed the countless members of their community?

foggy_lad · 31-05-2009 11:26pm

i dont know if local politicians and councillors read this, but if any happen to could you please remove the posters and placcards thet are attached to the railings outside the fire station and Scoil Mhuire and other schools which are blocking driver's view of children on the footpaths outside these schools!

it may seem trivial but it only takes a fraction of a second of distraction or of having your view obscured to knock down a child because you did not see them running towards the crossing!

Fishtits · 01-06-2009 1:24am

I give up.

Politicians and political parties seem to be geared around getting elected.

When they get there... they think about the next election. Sod the countries interest.

We have school teachers asking us to vote for them to run the country, 20 years in politics but won't give up his posting... (Micheal Martin, in case I don't get re-elected...) Enda Kenny the same.

School teachers/Lawyers etc running the country? FFS? What corporation would have a similar make up?

We deserve every thing we get.

PS Never voted FF in my life, not party political, but Enda's plan for the banks scares me ****less, he's naive to the point of comedy.

hughj · 01-06-2009 3:52am

foggy_lad wrote: »

i dont know if local politicians and councillors read this, but if any happen to could you please remove the posters and placcards thet are attached to the railings outside the fire station and Scoil Mhuire and other schools which are blocking driver's view of children on the footpaths outside these schools!

it may seem trivial but it only takes a fraction of a second of distraction or of having your view obscured to knock down a child because you did not see them running towards the crossing!

This is the reason why I didnt put mine up there, it just makes sense

hughj · 01-06-2009 3:59am

Sully wrote: »

As a FF candidate.. you need all the help you can get

Hows it going on the doors anyway? Is it as tough as some (incl. FF) candidates are making it out to be?

Its not too bad,it is tough though because I am a first time candadate and the youngest running but people are very polite and even though some of them wont vote for me they are sound about it and wish me the best of luck

testicle · 01-06-2009 1:46pm

hughj wrote: »

Its not too bad,it is tough though because I am a first time candadate and the youngest running but people are very polite and even though some of them wont vote for me they are sound about it and wish me the best of luck

Why haven't you been around to my house?

I haven't seen a candidate all week.

patrickc · 01-06-2009 2:04pm

was thinking the same myself, we had people canvassing for candiates, but not the candiates themselves, actually eileen brophy called but that was it

hughj · 02-06-2009 2:19am

testicle wrote: »

Why haven't you been around to my house?

I haven't seen a candidate all week.

I have a very small team about three including myself so Im going to prob head pollerton tomorrow and try to get to as many areas before Friday

foggy_lad · 02-06-2009 9:54am

testicle wrote: »

Why haven't you been around to my house?

I haven't seen a candidate all week.

i have not seen any candidates at all in rivercourt, not even any of their henchmen/cavassers. they must not like the idea of explaining why travellers are given free reign and camping rights down outside the eire og club?

lady.in.red · 03-06-2009 3:33pm

hey all,
Cllr Des Hurley is a good one and will definately be getting my number one for town and county. hes been in the councils for years and has done a lot of good things for d people of carlow

he has also personally called to my front door and to a lot of peoples tat i know too

road_high · 03-06-2009 11:34pm

Anybody read about the guy, Rooney (i think), running for the council, from around Old Leighlin as an indo. He wants to...wait for it....reinstate the Carlow Sugar Factory on the site of the Fair Oaks food plant in B'town

:D

tombull82 · 04-06-2009 10:28am

Seriously?? Sure the sugar production was bought out..(Sold Off by the head's of FF) how does he plan on working that one out...

lady.in.red · 04-06-2009 12:37pm

no i havent heard of him but in all fairness he wont be too successful with that sugar factory suggestion.
Yea that was bought out and they make it in some other country for less than half the price than they did here..

road_high · 05-06-2009 6:12pm

Well it was just so scandalous that FF sold out the sugar industry in the first place. Other small EU counries kept theirs. Of course FF knew best and thought we could all be employed building houses :rolleyes:

We could certianly do with those 300 odd (good) dorect jobs, not to mention all the others. And yet Carlow-KK returned 3 FF td's and a Green party no-hoper last time. Very clever indeed.

patrickc · 05-06-2009 6:44pm

have cast my vote now, roll on tomorrow till we get the goodn results:D

Carlow Local Elections

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