Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v 4.0 (08/07/14 to date)

coolhull · 23-10-2014 11:51pm

grey_so_what wrote: »

Jealous coolhull?....:eek:

Bald is beautiful too!!....:pac:

Not jealous, grey,my hair is grey too. Not bald (yet). I just wish I had his wonderful quiff!

grey_so_what · 23-10-2014 11:52pm

coolhull wrote: »

Not jealous, grey,my hair is grey too. Not bald (yet). I just wish I had his wonderful quiff!

I'll buy a bottle of that Regain for you and you'll have locks down to your waist by Easter coolhull!! xxx

BlaasForRafa · 23-10-2014 11:53pm

How they let MLOD and an editor from the Scum newspaper be on the same panel is a wonder all right, the two of them are as thick as two short planks.

Berserker · 23-10-2014 11:54pm

grey_so_what wrote: »

I honestly believe Enda Kenny is using this as a diversion.

I don't actually. The timing is completely off for such a thing. The budget is over and it is a good time for Enda and the government to go into cruise control. The fact that he was one of the last to meet the victim shows that, imo. If he wanted to milk it, he would have had seen her the day after the story broke.

grey_so_what wrote: »

He will not be interviewed anytime anywhere about anything.

Both him and Adams are chickens. Enda needs to drop this grudge he has with VB. I'm surprised that he hasn't, as it would be a nice stick to beat Adams with. Adams must be scared to death to face VB. He knows he is going to get thorn a new one, if he has to face him one on one.

grey_so_what wrote: »

Sinn Fein have to lose Gerry Adams.

It is incredibly unhealthy that a party has had the same leader for so long. All the negativity and scandal that surrounds him (Cahill, McConville, brother's child abuse, his father's child abuse) would be enough to see the back of any leader, in any respectable party.

grey_so_what · 23-10-2014 11:55pm

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

How they let MLOD and an editor from the Scum newspaper be on the same panel is a wonder all right, the two of them are as thick as two short planks.

I don't think they are thick Blaas but there is an agenda there for sure....

grey_so_what · 23-10-2014 11:58pm

Berserker wrote: »

I don't actually. The timing is completely off for such a thing. The budget is over and it is a good time for Enda and the government to go into cruise control. The fact that he was one of the last to meet the victim shows that, imo. If he wanted to milk it, he would have had seen her the day after the story broke.

I have to say I don't agree there!...The Water Board fiasco is something that has Enda running for cover...again.

Both him and Adams are chickens. Enda needs to drop this grudge he has with VB. I'm surprised that he hasn't, as it would be a nice stick to beat Adams with. Adams must be scared to death to face VB. He knows he is going to get thorn a new one, if he has to face him one on one.

Well, that's not going to happen anytime soon....

It is incredibly unhealthy that a party has had the same leader for so long. All the negativity and scandal that surrounds him (Cahill, McConville, brother's child abuse, his father's child abuse) would be see the back of any leader, in any respectable party.

Adam's has to go. He obviously won't do it himself.

Berserker · 24-10-2014 12:00am

grey_so_what wrote: »

Adam's has to go. He obviously won't do it himself.

I agree but is there anyone in SF big enough to push him? I get the impression that he has North Korea Kim like status in the party.

grey_so_what · 24-10-2014 12:01am

Berserker wrote: »

I agree but is there anyone in SF big enough to push him? I get the impression that he has North Korea Kim like status in the party.

I don't think there is any way out for him now Berserker....

It's just a matter of time.

For their own sake in SF. They risk losing the plot if he doesn't go imo.....

coolhull · 24-10-2014 12:04am

Berserker wrote: »

I agree but is there anyone in SF big enough to push him? I get the impression that he has North Korea Kim like status in the party.

Shinners are a loyal lot. Haughey or Aherne would have killed for that kind of loyalty and unquestioning obedience

Busted Flat. · 24-10-2014 12:07am

grey_so_what wrote: »

I don't think there is any way out for him now Berserker....

It's just a matter of time.

For their own sake in SF. They risk losing the plot if he doesn't go imo.....

I will wait for the next poll. People are a bit tired of Enda and his stupidity and false claims to cover his incompetence.

brooke 2 · 24-10-2014 12:08am

MrsD007 wrote: »

I can't get used to this new happy clappy Ger Colleran, I think I prefer him when he is grumpy :eek:

What has happened to him? He is looking so gaunt!

brooke 2 · 24-10-2014 12:11am

grey_so_what wrote: »

Ger Colleran is more smoked salmon than the "smoked salmon brigade"...

Loved his comment about the 'gold plated plumbers'! He was right.

Phoebas · 24-10-2014 12:15am

coolhull wrote: »

Shinners are a loyal lot. Haughey or Aherne would have killed for that kind of loyalty and unquestioning obedience

:eek: Adams on the other hand....

brooke 2 · 24-10-2014 12:15am

tayto lover wrote: »

Colleran AND MLOD

Marie Louise thinks people would be willing to pay for water, Ger does not.

grey_so_what · 24-10-2014 12:15am

brooke 2 wrote: »

Loved his comment about the 'gold plated plumbers'! He was right.

If you were on his salary brooke for years you wouldn't have to pretend about being stressed paying for plumbers....;)

brooke 2 · 24-10-2014 12:20am

grey_so_what wrote: »

If you were on his salary brooke for years you wouldn't have to pretend about being stressed paying for plumbers....;)

True, grey. He can talk the talk.

grey_so_what · 24-10-2014 12:21am

brooke 2 wrote: »

True, grey. He can talk the talk.

My dad used to call it "suitable sounds" in his day brooke....

Sounds good but basically means shag all....:eek:

How are you doing this weather??

brooke 2 · 24-10-2014 1:53am

grey_so_what wrote: »

My dad used to call it "suitable sounds" in his day brooke....

Sounds good but basically means shag all....:eek:

How are you doing this weather??

Am walking the walk, grey! Literally!!

I have to agree with Ger Colleran's comments about Positive
Action. There is something unseemly about all the sneering
re 'Angel Therapy', etc., which is doing the rounds today. Are
some of these people too young to know what the State did
to those women? Many of them have died; some were fearing
death because they were given contaminated blood. Michael
Noonan fought them tooth and nail. No one was ever arrested
for the criminal way they were treated. If Angel therapy or any
thing else gave them a modicum of comfort, good for them, I
say!

Some of the spending was a bit bizarre, but it pales into
insignificance when compared to what Angela Kearns and Frank
Flannery got up to with our money!!

It is so easy to go after
the small fry. Afaik, most of the women involved with Positive
Action were volunteers. I heard someone on the radio today who
was involved with it for years. She had expressed concern, about
what she saw as lavish spending, to the Department of Health,
even before the HSE was set up. They assured her that all was
kosher. I am not condoning some of the spending, but, come on!
A few hundred for dry cleaning, a few hundred for dog kennelling?
It made me feel quite ill to see Shane Ross and John McGuinness
baring their fangs to go after this particular group, I must say!!

Gosh, that was some 'rant', grey! My apologies!!

I had just been reading about Sean Dunne who has been
declared bankrupt in Connecticut and is now embarking on
a new construction project in New York!

Also, Bernard
McNamara, who was 1.6Billion in debt, now free from
bankruptcy and carrying out development projects for Denis
O'Brien and Michael Smurfit!

And here we are, being loaded with property charges and water
charges to pay their debts!! Gggrrr!! Positive Action compared
to those shysters? They are not even at the ball game!!

Goodnight, grey!! Going to make myself a cup of tea, haha!!

Happyman42 · 24-10-2014 2:18am

Berserker wrote: »

his father's child abuse) would be enough to see the back of any leader, in any respectable party.

Well that's a new low for boards, and that's saying something.

BlaasForRafa · 24-10-2014 6:13pm

grey_so_what wrote: »

I don't think they are thick Blaas but there is an agenda there for sure....

that Scum editor has the skeeviest voice ever, you can see how he fits the job alright...

take everything · 28-10-2014 11:59pm

Anyone watching tonight.

Rorzz · 29-10-2014 12:02am

"Safer than taking viagra while driving a car?"

take everything · 29-10-2014 12:02am

Good man Vinny. "Safer than taking Viagra while driving a car". Vinny's just always looking for a laugh even when discussing a serious issue.

Lapin · 29-10-2014 12:02am

take everything wrote: »

Anyone watching tonight.

Ya me.

Un Croissant · 29-10-2014 12:02am

The green screen is freakey.

coolhull · 29-10-2014 12:04am

Tonight's show features a debate on our corporation tax and so-called 'tax-haven status'

So, it's gonna be quiet on this thread tonight, I imagine

Good news : Colette Brown will be here later

Bad news : So will Paddy f*ckin Manning

Lapin · 29-10-2014 12:04am

I love the way Vinnie can bring his dry sense of humour into even the most serious discussions without demeaning them.

Rorzz · 29-10-2014 12:04am

My Economics lecturer is on the panel tonight, I hope he's back in time for our class tomorrow afternoon!

tampopo · 29-10-2014 12:06am

No, watching the Gerry Anderson tribute on BBC1 till it's finihsed...then switch over...

take everything · 29-10-2014 12:07am

Rorzz wrote: »

My Economics lecturer is on the panel tonight, I hope he's back in time for our class tomorrow afternoon!

Karl Whelan or Brian Lucey?
Or Morgan?!?

Rorzz · 29-10-2014 12:08am

take everything wrote: »

Karl Whelan or Brian Lucey?
Or Morgan?!?

If only!

Seamus Coffey, UCC. Fantastic lecturer!

Harry Angstrom · 29-10-2014 12:11am

"Equality Studies" :rolleyes:

I reckon McDonald's must be inundated with CV's from such graduates.

Lapin · 29-10-2014 12:14am

Economics isn't my strong point and I can't make head nor tail of this Double Irish, tax loophole, hoop jumping, knowledge box fiscal avoidance lark.

What I do know is that I'm personally no better off with or without it.

Rorzz · 29-10-2014 12:16am

Apple making €36Billion profit from their Cork operation?

Lapin · 29-10-2014 12:19am

Joe Higgns used to be a lot more engaging and articulate when speaking.

He fumbled his way through that point in a very long winded manner.

Lapin · 29-10-2014 12:21am

She's getting ready for the halloween fancy dress party a few days early.

Harry Angstrom · 29-10-2014 12:30am

If you close your eyes when listening to Seamus Coffey, you could be forgiven for thinking it's Eddie Hobbs.

Harry Angstrom · 29-10-2014 12:37am

Lapin wrote: »

She's getting ready for the halloween fancy dress party a few days early.

She'd make a good Elvira...

Rorzz · 29-10-2014 12:42am

There's Paddy, there's my remote, and there's the standby button.

Lapin · 29-10-2014 12:45am

Interesting to see Lucinda Creighton being pictured with Dessie O'Malley.

Are we seeing the next person to form a political party posing with the founder of the last person to do so?

Lapin · 29-10-2014 12:49am

Paddy is one serious pain in the arse.

RobertKK · 29-10-2014 12:52am

Paddy manning speaking the truth. Those of us who always had to pay for water are fed up listening to people who say they already paid for their water through taxation which is a myth.
He is right too as there is no right to piped water into your house.

I am delighted water charges are being brought in, as I support paying for water, it will make people less wasteful and know water isn't free.

coolhull · 29-10-2014 12:59am

RobertKK wrote: »

Paddy manning speaking the truth. Those of us who always had to pay for water are fed up listening to people who say they already paid for their water through taxation which is a myth.
He is right too as there is no right to piped water into your house.

I am delighted water charges are being brought in, as I support paying for water, it will make people less wasteful and know water isn't free.

If Paddy Manning, or indeed Robert KK, wants to pay for water, away with them. Some of us may have a different opinion.

Busted Flat. · 29-10-2014 1:51am

Lapin wrote: »

Interesting to see Lucinda Creighton being pictured with Dessie O'Malley.

Are we seeing the next person to form a political party posing with the founder of the last person to do so?

Meeting that thing is the death of any hope that Lucy has of going forward.

Good loser · 29-10-2014 8:33pm

coolhull wrote: »

If Paddy Manning, or indeed Robert KK, wants to pay for water, away with them. Some of us may have a different opinion.

Opinions are one thing. The law is another. Those two supply their own water like 20% of the population - and contribute towards yours.

First class debate last night between Coffey and the Trinity professor; the other two were only a nuisance.

tayto lover · 29-10-2014 8:44pm

Good loser wrote: »

Opinions are one thing. The law is another. Those two supply their own water like 20% of the population - and contribute towards yours.

Any working man has been paying for water all along.
This silly argument abvout only paying for water now is a farce and meant to deflect.

coolhull · 29-10-2014 9:02pm

Good loser wrote: »

Those two supply their own water like 20% of the population - and contribute towards yours.
.

Really? They're too kind. Tell them thanks from the 82% who are fed up being taken for a ride.

grey_so_what · 29-10-2014 9:05pm

coolhull wrote: »

Really? They're too kind. Tell them thanks from the 82% who are fed up being taken for a ride.

It's the first time I will be going on a march on Sat. since the nuns told us to go for Wood Quay coolhull.....and we all know how that ended....:(

It's all about doing it right, not about paying for a valuable commodity like water. Fat cats getting richer.....

Lapin · 29-10-2014 11:41pm

RobertKK wrote: »

I am delighted water charges are being brought in, as I support paying for water, it will make people less wasteful and know water isn't free.

While I wouldn’t say I’m delighted water charges are being brought in, I certainly don't have a problem of paying for a good water service piped directly to my house and waste water drained away to be treated properly.

I've paid for it in the past when I lived abroad and fully realise that its an essential service treating and supplying a resource that is getting more and more scarce and needs to be paid for.

However - I utterly detest the idea that a portion of my income is going to fund an organisation that, right from day one has become a byline for cack handed incompetence and shown a total shambolic inability to undertake the task they have been given. And I don't just mean the current government.

To begin with, Irish Water are headed up by a failed city manager whose money burning legacy my in own home town included leaving us with a bill that overran into millions for the Eyre Square redevelopment that was eventually completed over 18 months late. As a reward he was promoted to Dublin City manager where he pissed away a mere €100 million over the Poolbeg incinerator fuckup.

And now we're paying him €200K a year with bonuses (along with 28 others on over €100K with bonuses) to do what he does best. Cock things up. And so far he's doing a pretty good job at that even if we never get to see or hear him. The man wouldn't survive till lunchtime in the private sector.

As well as the balls up over they way they handled billing before a single bill was ever sent out, their demand for our PPS numbers, the confusion over allowances, the exorbitant call out charges for repairs, their appalling customer service (or lack of it), and staff who don't know what their job is, it is also the government's lack of intervention and feet shuffling that make my blood boil.

Its never too late to do the right thing. Irish Water should be wound up immediately, management and board removed without recompense, and start the whole bloody thing again from the beginning using people with a track record for doing things right. Even Basil Fawlty, Frank Spencer and our own Father Dougal would do a better job.

It makes me sick to the pits of my stomach to see a public utility for an essential service being treated like a box of goodies by our government and divided up among their cronies at our expense no matter how incompetent those cronies are at the job. I have absolutely zero confidence in Irish Water.

And that my friends, is why, for the first time since the old farts in the IRFU tried to obliterate Connacht from Irish Rugby, I am taking to the streets on Saturday to kick up a racket. :mad:

grey_so_what · 29-10-2014 11:45pm

Lapin wrote: »

While I wouldn’t say I’m delighted water charges are being brought in, I certainly don't have a problem of paying for a good water service piped directly to my house and waste water drained away to be treated properly.

I've paid for it in the past when I lived abroad and fully realise that its an essential service treating and supplying a resource that is getting more and more scarce and needs to be paid for.

However - I utterly detest the idea that a portion of my income is going to fund an organisation that, right from day one has become a byline for cack handed incompetence and shown a total shambolic inability to undertake the task they have been given. And I don't just mean the current government.

To begin with, Irish Water are headed up by a failed city manager whose money burning legacy my in own home town included leaving us with a bill that overran into millions for the Eyre Square redevelopment that was eventually completed over 18 months late. As a reward he was promoted to Dublin City manager where he pissed away a mere €100 million over the Poolbeg incinerator fuckup.

And now we're paying him €200K a year with bonuses (along with 28 others on over €100K with bonuses) to do what he does best. Cock things up. And so far he's doing a pretty good job at that even if we never get to see or hear him. The man wouldn't survive till lunchtime in the private sector.

As well as the balls up over they way they handled billing before a single bill was ever sent out, their demand for our PPS numbers, the confusion over allowances, the exorbitant call out charges for repairs, their appalling customer service (or lack of it), and staff who don't know what their job is, it is also the government's lack of intervention and feet shuffling that make my blood boil.

Its never too late to do the right thing. Irish Water should be wound up immediately, management and board removed without recompense, and start the whole bloody thing again from the beginning using people with a track record for doing things right. Even Basil Fawlty, Frank Spencer and our own Father Dougal would do a better job.

It makes me sick to the pits of my stomach to see a public utility for an essential service being treated like a box of goodies by our government and divided up among their cronies at our expense no matter how incompetent those cronies are at the job. I have absolutely zero confidence in Irish Water.

And that my friends, is why, for the first time since the old farts in the IRFU tried to obliterate Connacht from Irish Rugby, I am taking to the streets on Saturday to kick up a racket. :mad:

I'm glad you got that off your chest Lapin.......and on the latter note...I'm with you my friend!....:) xxx

Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v 4.0 (08/07/14 to date)

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