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Aritech digidialer send sms

  • 22-03-2010 7:04pm
    #1
    maximus22
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭


    Hi all,
    I have an existing aritech CS350 alarm. I decided to fit a didgi dailer, looked straight forward. It has turned out to be a minature disater. I have it wired, and connected to telephone line. It will not send texts messages, it will ring me, but silence, even when I tried connecting telephone to the dailer I still can not leave a message. At the moment even when I set the alarm I now get a call to my mobile. There is a clicking in the dialer and also a red led.Its a TD8812 V1.5.7. Can any one help me..any info appreciate, I would just like it to leave me a text at this stage as phoning me as I am wearing thin. Ideally if some one has a set of recommended setting, I have the manual, no use to me...!! Thank you in advance.


    Maximus
    :cool:


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  • #2
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    Check your Private messages :)


  • #3
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    maximus22 wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I have an existing aritech CS350 alarm. I decided to fit a didgi dailer, looked straight forward. It has turned out to be a minature disater. I have it wired, and connected to telephone line. It will not send texts messages, it will ring me, but silence, even when I tried connecting telephone to the dailer I still can not leave a message. At the moment even when I set the alarm I now get a call to my mobile. There is a clicking in the dialer and also a red led.Its a TD8812 V1.5.7. Can any one help me..any info appreciate, I would just like it to leave me a text at this stage as phoning me as I am wearing thin. Ideally if some one has a set of recommended setting, I have the manual, no use to me...!! Thank you in advance.


    Maximus
    :cool:

    Hi maximus,

    This device is used to connect your alarm to a monitoring station not send texts to your phone. You need a aritech RD 5045N voice module to get a voice message. The Gardtec Speech Dialler may be used for communicating speech messages for this alarm system. The unit may be programmed with up to four telephone numbers. It is a lot easier to program plus fit than the aritech RD 5045N and TD8812.

    www.altor.ie



  • #4
    maximus22
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭maximus22


    Thank you Altor,
    but I can not return the one I have...so need to get it to do some thing... even just ring me once. At the moment it rings every time alarm is switched on....for no reason. Here is more info below if you care to read..

    Here is wiring manual, see page 9. If you are familiar with wiring maybe you can see some issue, if not np.
    http://rikain.com/Manuals/Intruder_a...rogramming.pdf
    The wiring that may be wrong and causing me confusion is terminations on Digi dialler no.’s 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 1 , 2 and M. M is for a mikephone so I have not connected (not an issue)
    1,2,3,4, appear to connect 7,8,9, and 10 in CS350 (that’s fine) , next, 5,6,7,8 appear from drawing to be linked out..continous loop which finally loops with terminal B -ive on the Digit Dialler.
    From the drawing it shows 5,6,7, and 8 as switches which are in parallel but is this internally in the Dialler or do I need to wire these terminal points to outputs? ( i.e. out puts on CS350 control panel).
    Next terminals 1 and 2, terminal one on Digi appears to connect directly into terminal 19 on CS350, is this correct? And finally terminal 2 on Dialler looks like it connects into A+ ive on dialler ?
    To clarify.

    CS350 PANLE DIALER
    20
    to terminal No. 1 below (where 1 is also connected to no.11)
    15
    D
    14
    C
    13
    B -ive (also linked with 5,6,7,8 below)
    12
    A +ive (also linked with No. 2 below)

    11
    1
    10
    2 (terminal 2 linked with A +ive above)
    9
    3
    8
    4
    [5
    [6 Linked these out with terminal B-ive (above)
    [7
    [8

    Rgds
    Maximus


  • #5
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Hi maximus,

    The device you have is for ringing a monitoring station. It will keep ringing you till it gets a handshake. You need to buy a aritech RD 5045N voice module that plugs onto the TD8812 you have to get it to work. If you Google the aritech RD 5045N voice module you will know what i mean.

    www.altor.ie



  • #6
    maximus22
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭maximus22


    Altor,
    okay so if I stick in when I get a phone call, I can basically here a message and acknowledge it.... sounds like the answer.

    Thanks I will price one

    Rgds
    Maximus
    altor wrote: »
    Hi maximus,

    The device you have is for ringing a monitoring station. It will keep ringing you till it gets a handshake. You need to buy a aritech RD 5045N voice module that plugs onto the TD8812 you have to get it to work. If you Google the aritech RD 5045N voice module you will know what i mean.


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  • #7
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    maximus22 wrote: »
    Altor,
    okay so if I stick in when I get a phone call, I can basically here a message and acknowledge it.... sounds like the answer.

    Thanks I will price one

    Rgds
    Maximus

    Yes, thats correct. You will need to set up messages on the RD 5045N voice module. It would of worked out cheaper to get the gerdtec speech dialer. Its alot easier to program and fit also. Try price both units, it is not easy to program the aritech voice dialer.

    www.altor.ie



  • #8
    freddy99
    Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    Hi Maximus,

    Did you get the system working ?
    I have same set up not working.
    Dials and delivers message using test feature, but when alarm activates, it doesn't dial until you enter the code on keypad to de-activate.
    Any help welcome.

    Thanks, Freddy


  • #9
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Have you engineer access freddy99.
    If its sending the voice message during a test only then you need to check the report options.


  • #10
    freddy99
    Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    Hi KoolKid,
    Sorry for the delay. I have full engineer access as I installed myself. It's wired as per install diagram, with Cs35 o/p's 8-11 connected to 8812 i/p's 4-1. Cs305 o/p20 (digifault) connected to 8812 o/p 1. 8812 pins 5-8 left un connected and also 8812 o/p 2 left unconnected.
    If I use test dial function on keypad connected to 8812, then system dials mobile and delivers a message.
    The problem is the dialler will dial mobile every time that the system disarm code is entered whether the alarm has been activated or not. It will not dial if there is an alarm activation.
    I expect that I have either missed someting in the wiring, or it is something to do with polarity of cs350 o/ps or 8812 i/ps programming.
    Any help would be very much appreciated.
    Thank you KoolKid.

    regards, freddy


  • #11
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Have you programmed voice message & address.
    Have you checked the report options?
    Have you programmed a dummy A/C number?


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  • #12
    freddy99
    Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    Thanks Koolkid,

    Using the 8812.
    Have you programmed voice message & address..Yes programmed messages 1,2 and 5 (burglar alarm, Tamper alarm, address info)

    Have you checked the report options?..Not sure about this. I have linked the messages to events using message selection.

    Have you programmed a dummy A/C number? I just have my mobile number listed under central station 1. I have it set to report Alternate.

    Does thsi help ?

    Regards, freddy


  • #13
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    my digi dialeer has gone crazy it now sends private message and screaching sound any idea was working ok thanks


  • #14
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Phone lines don't support texts any more so it might be something to do with that.


  • #15
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Thread moved.


  • #16
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    tangoman wrote: »
    my digi dialeer has gone crazy it now sends private message and screaching sound any idea was working ok thanks

    The lines dont support text using the Eircom/Eir text server as it was discontinued in June.
    An alternative is to use either HKC or G4Ss text option over the landline using the installed digi.

    www.altor.ie



  • #17
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    was working perfect up to 2 weeks ago


  • #18
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    tangoman wrote: »
    was working perfect up to 2 weeks ago

    The official date for turn off was June.
    You were one of the lucky ones :D

    www.altor.ie



  • #19
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    it is a HKC DIGI


  • #20
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    what can i do


  • #21
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    The HKC digi will connect to either service.
    For setting up the HKC text you can do so here.

    With G4S you will need an installer to do same for you.

    www.altor.ie



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  • #22
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    I fitted and wired the alarm system with your help few years ago.

    What is G4S.

    I was only using eircom for my alarm no phone so now waste of money.

    How much does HKC Cost a month.

    Can I set it up myself.

    What if I change to UPC or another provider

    Thanks Jason


  • #23
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    G4S are Group 4 Security who offer various monitoring and security options.
    HKC are a manufacturer who have recently branched into this form of monitoring.
    Both offer chargeable options for self monitoring.
    There are many other options available for self monitoring. I would recommend shopping around before committing to annual or monthly subscriptions.


  • #24
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    I just want texts sent to my phone as before with eircom not monitoring


  • #25
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    In the long run a GSM dialler or an upgrade to an IP system will be cheaper.


  • #26
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    altor wrote: »
    The HKC digi will connect to either service.
    For setting up the HKC text you can do so here.

    With G4S you will need an installer to do same for you.

    which is best a gsm or internet provider and how much they cost is there a monthly charge thanks


  • #27
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    For GSM on your own PRE Pay SIM use Vodafone or Meteor.
    If you are using IP with a newer panel monitoring , alerts & remote access would be free and would just be using your existing data packages for your home & mobile connections.


  • #28
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    would i have to change my panel for IP,and would i get alerts on my phone and computer,how does that work what do i have to install extra on my panel
    would that be better than a gsm,
    do i remove my old digi dialler card and install a different one.


  • #29
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Using say Siemens it would be a panel and keypad upgrade.
    Notifications are by email. You can also be notified of network failures in 3 minutes.


  • #30
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    I dont want to upgrade my panel what about hkc
    how does a IP system work what do i need for that


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  • #31
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You can use HKC for the text service. There are subscription charges this. For text alerts you can use a generic text dialler and supply your own sim card.


  • #32
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    what is the hkc text service and how much does it cost a month,what is a generic text dialler is it a gsm whats difference between two,I only have eircom because was sending me text alerts to me now waste money


  • #33
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The HKC Securecom Text service allows you to connect to their server for text messages using your existing configuration.
    SecureText service level

    Standard - €3.40 per month (Incl. VAT)
    SMS Alarm activations
    Fair usage limit 50 messages per month

    Premium - €12.00 per month (Incl. VAT)
    SMS Alarm activations & Open / Close
    Fair usage limit 100 messages per month

    Premium Plus - €24.00 per month (Incl. VAT)
    SMS Alarm activations & Open / Close
    Fair usage limit 200 messages per month.

    A generic Text dialler is a global unit that will work from the outputs on all panels & send you a text via a sim card you provide top up.
    This one would be cheaper in the long run compared to the pricing above based on my experience.


  • #34
    tangoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭tangoman


    ok thanks how much a genetic dialler is it a box or a card,

    what about IP how that work


  • #35
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    tangoman wrote: »
    ok thanks how much a genetic dialler is it a box or a card,

    what about IP how that work

    Price wise you would need to contact the suppliers.

    Using the HKC service works out at 79 cent a week.
    A genetic voice dialer will dial your number and play a voice message.
    The text will give you more information.
    The text will work with any service provider as opposed to the old way it would only be used with the Eircom line.

    With IP you would be looking at replacing your whole system.

    www.altor.ie



  • #36
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    tangoman wrote: »
    ok thanks how much a genetic dialler is it a box or a card,

    what about IP how that work

    A generic voice or text dialler is just a unit that is powered by the panel and connects to the outputs of the panel.
    I find the text diallers very reasonable if you use your own pre pay sim card.
    With IP you would need to replace your control panel & keypad . In most cases this will give you free monitoring & free remote access to your system from anywhere with a data connection.
    Panels like Risco & Siemens also allow you to connect from any web browser should you not have a connection on your phone.


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