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When Spoons are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Spoons

  • 04-06-2010 4:14pm
    #1
    cavedave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭


    "The Government's new legislation designed to target head shops makes it a criminal offence to sell pipes or any other objects used to take controlled or psychoactive drugs." from here

    Are we now living in a country where selling bits of glass can get you five years in Jail?


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  • #2
    reprazant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭reprazant


    Tbf, it is hardly that surprising that they have outlawed paraphernalia that is only used for the consumption of illegal drugs.

    Why would anyone have a bong unless it was to smoke weed? Since weed is illegal, the only reason they would have it is to consume illegal substances.


  • #3
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    This is getting silly. I doubt it will stop people from getting there hands on this stuff.


  • #4
    cavedave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭cavedave


    How can you define what "objects used to take controlled or psychoactive drugs"? Some tinfoil and a pen could fall into that category as could spoons.
    illegal to sell objects used to cultivate drugs by hydroponic means
    So now horticulture is at the cutting edge of the drug war?
    The main points of new legislation published today make it an offence to sell, supply or advertise hallucinogenic drugs previously sold in head shops.
    What counts as advertising? If I point out the Beatles make some good tunes while off their mash is that advertising hallucinogenic drugs?
    They say marijuana leads to other drugs. No it doesn't, it leads to f*cking carpentry. That's the problem, folks. People getting high going, "Wow man, this box would make an excellent bong! snort This guy's head would make an excellent bong! *snort*" Relax! That's why I stopped doing drugs in the first place. Not because I didn't like 'em, but because I didn't want to build anything, ok?
    Denis Leary


  • #5
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    objects used to take controlled or psychoactive drugs

    oh noez they banned 20 euro notes


  • #6
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    reprazant wrote: »
    Tbf, it is hardly that surprising that they have outlawed paraphernalia that is only used for the consumption of illegal drugs.

    Why would anyone have a bong unless it was to smoke weed? Since weed is illegal, the only reason they would have it is to consume illegal substances.

    Shisha is smoked through hookahs etc. Not in any way psychoactive.

    Dermot Ahern is just trying to be the big man. This kind of nonsense is for appeasing the joe duffy crowd, nothing more.


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  • #7
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,051 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    reprazant wrote: »
    Tbf, it is hardly that surprising that they have outlawed paraphernalia that is only used for the consumption of illegal drugs.

    Why would anyone have a bong unless it was to smoke weed? Since weed is illegal, the only reason they would have it is to consume illegal substances.
    Bongs may be used to smoke Tobacco products and by using flavored water (a favorite of mine in my early days was Fanta Grape) it adds a little extra dimension to it.

    To outlaw this perfectly legal apparatus has me for one, disappointed.


  • #8
    reprazant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭reprazant


    Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »
    Shisha is smoked through hookahs etc. Not in any way psychoactive.

    Dermot Ahern is just trying to be the big man. This kind of nonsense is for appeasing the joe duffy crowd, nothing more.

    Hookahs are not banned, so not really relevant.

    While the first bit of legislation was due to a mixture of appeasing the rabbling masses and also due to the stupidity some of the headshops themselves, I blame this second bit of legislation, not on Ahern, but on the headshops which opened back up selling slightly different stuff.

    It was pretty much giving the fingers up to Ahern, who would never take that lying down.

    If they had kept their heads down and stayed quiet for a while before then slowly introducing stuff, I would imagine that nothing would have happened. But they didn't.


  • #9
    yoshytoshy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    My mother brought a smoking device back from turkey ,I better tell her to get her bags ready.
    Shes going to jail:eek:


  • #10
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    reprazant wrote: »
    Hookahs are not banned, so not really relevant.

    While the first bit of legislation was due to a mixture of appeasing the rabbling masses and also due to the stupidity some of the headshops themselves, I blame this second bit of legislation, not on Ahern, but on the headshops which opened back up selling slightly different stuff.

    It was pretty much giving the fingers up to Ahern, who would never take that lying down.

    If they had kept their heads down and stayed quiet for a while before then slowly introducing stuff, I would imagine that nothing would have happened. But they didn't.

    Are you sure they won't be banned? Seeing as they're also used for weed it wouldn't surprise me.

    I tihnk he was right with the first bit of legislation, some of it anyway.

    But banning bongs etc is ridiculous they've been on sale for decades, it's not like they've only come out since the first bit of legislation. He wants to shut down head shops completely. If successful FF will prob boast about it in the next election


  • #11
    Eliot Rosewater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Eliot Rosewater


    Okay, I'm getting really tired of the hysterical Joe Duffy callers controlling what individuals do. The head shop crackdown only ensured more money for illegal drug dealers and all that entails. Who should I write my letter to; the minister for justice?


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  • #12
    RonMexico
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    This country is heading back to the fcuking dark ages.


  • #13
    Eliot Rosewater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Eliot Rosewater


    RonMexico wrote: »
    This country is heading back to the fcuking dark ages.

    Well that's my main concern. There's a growing trend of exercising greater control of the individual in many ways, from this issue to the curtailment of opening hours of off licenses etc etc.

    Will this trend keep going, restricting us more and more?


  • #14
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • #15
    Valmont
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    We are safe again! Marijuana smokers will now have to use different devices to smoke their stuff!

    It's official. This country is a joke.


  • #16
    Saruman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    reprazant wrote: »
    Why would anyone have a bong unless it was to smoke weed? Since weed is illegal, the only reason they would have it is to consume illegal substances.

    Decoration?
    Seriously though, I have some swords that decorate my Asian influenced front room. Why would I have Samurai Swords if I don't intend chopping limbs off? Well simply for decoration.

    Now I don't condone illegal drug use. I have never even smoked a cigarette but I don't see why selling a harmless item of nostalgic paraphernalia (it is to a certain generation) should be illegal.

    I notice this country is the biggest shower of bandwagon jumpers I have ever come across. It is always some new evil that needs to be shut down and gets everyone worked up until it is made illegal.


  • #17
    RonMexico
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Might as well ban all pipes then Mr. Aherne. You know the indians used their tomahawks to smoke too, one side is the hatchet (war) and the other side a pipe (peace). Ban them too, just in case those crazy potheads take to them and go on a murderous pot induced rampage. Oh ban lightbulbs while your at it, the gas in them gets you off your tits when inhaled. Permanent markers too. Oh you might want to ban absinthe again and imprison anyone that tries to import toads, licking them makes your brain rot and your feet fall off. Also reindeer are notorious for eating shrooms and running amok. Ban Santa and Christmas, people might copy the reindeer. Did you know that you can get wrecked by drinking reindeer piss? Add that to the list my good man. Or better still, get a clue and realise that people are going to get high whether you like it or not. Stop dicking about and start clamping down on the drug gangs where the real problems are.


  • #18
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    Plastic bottle, lighter, bit of water, bit of tin foil.

    I want anyone selling or purchasing the above things to be arrested.


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