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RTA in Fairview (Howth Road Jn)

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    #32
    The_Pete_Fella
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭The_Pete_Fella


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    It is totally relevant.
    The point being that such cycle paths are totally useless if cyclists aren't using them.
    If planning, work and money went into them and they are not being used, this needed to be questioned.
    Clearly they are not fit for purpose.
    Having cycled a lot around Europe, our cycle paths are a joke.

    I'm not saying cyclists shouldn't have been on the road - of course we have every right, but the cycle paths are there to provide a dedicated, and presumably safer route, for cyclists.

    Our cycle lanes are a discrace and the 1M extending from the path on roads without cycle lanes are even worse but A cycle lane can not stop a car from breaking a red light at speed(for example).


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    #33
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    It is totally relevant.
    jon1981 wrote: »
    Sorry it's not relevant.
    The_Pete_Fella wrote: »
    Our cycle lanes are a discrace and the 1M extending from the path on roads without cycle lanes are even worse but A cycle lane can not stop a car from breaking a red light at speed(for example).
    Can we leave this "discussion" here. A poor man has lost his life and this thread should be about expressing condolences, not discussing (or indeed speculating over) the underlying facts - that is for the relevant authorities to determine

    Thanks


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    #34
    eeeee
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeeee


    ETA: cross posting with Beasty

    Condolences to the riders family and friends, tragic, horrific situation. R.I.P.


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    #35
    OleRodrigo
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    RIP. Very sad news.

    <snip>


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    #36
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Very sad news, very frightening too as I also use that junction on my morning/evening commute to and from work.

    The poor man, what a horrible death. May he rest in peace.


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    #37
    a148pro
    Registered Users Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭a148pro


    skallywag wrote: »


    What exactly are you tired of? Cyclists being killed by hit & run drivers?

    Yes. And the fact that we are governed in a way that a responsible decision to opt to cycle means you are left facing a lottery as to whether this happens to you.


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    #38
    OleRodrigo
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    a148pro wrote: »
    Yes. And the fact that we are governed in a way that a responsible decision to opt to cycle means you are left facing a lottery as to whether this happens to you.

    There are a lot of cyclists in Dublin, the vast majority get from A to B safely. Accidents such as this although terrible are very rare.


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    #39
    OldBean
    Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭OldBean


    Very sad, a road/junction I frequent fairly often.

    RIP

    :(


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    #40
    Maserati23
    Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭Maserati23


    <snip>

    R.I.P. to that cyclist last night.


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    #41
    masculinist
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    RIP. I both drive and cycle that way all the time. And I never fail to notice the memorial flowers somebody always leaves at Fairview park. One of my best friends had a cousin who was victim of a hit and run at that very same location in the 80s on his first day on his very first motorbike at the age of 20. And like this case the cowardly driver just kept going. The case is still unsolved. I am hoping that since then we have more cameras around. The petrol station slightly further up the Howth road might have noticed this car on its cameras.
    <snip>
    The behavior I witnessed as a driver really raised my awareness of cycle safety when I cycle. Somewhere a family is mourning and a coward is sweating. I hope they get the justice they deserve.


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    #42
    jon1981
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    A few months ago I was stopped at the lights there on the Malahide road junction and Griffith avenue on my bike waiting for the Green light as you do. I noticed a car with a few lads in it driving erratically and aggressively turning from Griffith Avenue onto Malahide road.

    I continued to look at them as they rev'd in the middle of the junction trying to turn, i noticed but not 100% sure a large can in the hand of the driver , which looked like a can of bulmers, the driver made eye contact with me and there was definitely an "I've been caught" look in his eye as he sped down the road.

    I haven't forgotten that incident and I feel guilty for not calling the gardai despite not being 100% sure that they were drinking alcohol.

    And now reading this story about this poor guy I feel more guilty, In my head I'm now thinking, was it these guys? Obviously I'm not suggesting it was. Could this have been prevented? If more people were proactive in reporting suspicious driving or people would this have happened?

    I guess the lesson for me is to report anything behaviour you think will harm another person. We all have responsibility here to ensure we keep our roads safe and free of these animals.


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    #43
    triggermortis
    Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    Sad news. RIP


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    #44
    Wishbone Ash
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    RIP to the deceased and condolences to his family/friends. I use that junction several times per week.

    <snip>


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    #45
    Effects
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    Gardai were at the location again this evening asking motorists if they had seen anything. I asked if they had found the driver yet but they still hadn't at that point.


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    #46
    jon1981
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    Effects wrote: »
    Gardai were at the location again this evening asking motorists if they had seen anything. I asked if they had found the driver yet but they still hadn't at that point.

    Hopefully they'll have decent enough footage of the car or individuals to publish on Crimewatch when/if they decide to air it.


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    #47
    Pipmae
    Registered Users Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭Pipmae


    Gardai have made an arrest.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-arrested-following-death-of-cyclist-last-week-31359746.html


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    #48
    Beasty
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    More posts deleted

    Please see my prior warning and leave it to the relevant authorities to determine the facts/cause/fault

    Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread


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    #49
    the world wonders
    Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭the world wonders


    Man due in court after death of cyclist in June


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    #50
    well spoken man
    Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭well spoken man


    Disgrace...hope he gets what he deserves if he is guilty...


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    #51
    Beasty
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    well spoken man wrote: »
    Disgrace...hope he gets what he deserves if he is guilty...
    We do not know if he's guilty and now legal proceedings are commencing I'm closing this thread as this sort of post only encourages others to speculate


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