Inherent Vice

Da Shins Kelly · 27-01-2013 12:59am #1

Paul Thomas Anderson's next project will be taking on the Thomas Pynchon novel Inherent Vice. It's a detective thriller-comedy set in 1960s/70s Los Angeles. It was originally meant to star Robert Downey Jnr., but apparently he has dropped out and Anderson will be teaming up again with Joaquin Phoenix. It all seems to still be very much in its infancy, but it will be the first time that the very reclusive Thomas Pynchon has allowed his work be adapted for the screen.

Hope Anderson does it some justice. It'll be interesting to see how they do comedy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/inherent-vice-joaquin-phoenix-robert-downey-jr_n_2545497.html

JP Liz V1 · 28-01-2013 4:22pm

RDJ would have been an interesting choice to work with PTA anyways I'm sure Joaquin Phoenix will deliver as always

Kinski · 28-01-2013 4:37pm

A Mason & Dixon film helmed by Anderson could be really interesting, I think, but Vice is probably Pynchon's most accessible - and most "filmable" - novel by a considerable distance. Not a Downey Jnr. fan at all, and glad he's no longer involved.

On a side note, Pynchon is said to be dissmissive of the idea that he's reclusive: the perception stems from his unwillingness to do interviews, attend award ceremonies, perform readings, or engage in any of the other public activities normally expected of a professional writer.

e_e · 28-01-2013 5:12pm

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

It'll be interesting to see how they do comedy.

Watch Punch-Drunk Love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE2FCCZ50VU

Da Shins Kelly · 28-01-2013 7:22pm

Kinski wrote: »

A Mason & Dixon film helmed by Anderson could be really interesting, I think, but Vice is probably Pynchon's most accessible - and most "filmable" - novel by a considerable distance. Not a Downey Jnr. fan at all, and glad he's no longer involved.

On a side note, Pynchon is said to be dissmissive of the idea that he's reclusive: the perception stems from his unwillingness to do interviews, attend award ceremonies, perform readings, or engage in any of the other public activities normally expected of a professional writer.

Nobody even seems to be sure what he looks like or where he actually resides either. There are only a few known photographs of him in circulation, all from his college days. I kinda like that he stays away from it all.

e_e wrote: »

Watch Punch-Drunk Love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE2FCCZ50VU

Can't watch anything with Adam Sandler. He is possibly top of my list of actors who just do my head in.

e_e · 28-01-2013 7:25pm

Seriously if you like Paul Thomas Anderson you're gonna have to watch it. His second best film imho and the exception to Adam Sandler's rubbish output. He is wonderful in that film.

Da Shins Kelly · 28-01-2013 9:22pm

e_e wrote: »

Seriously if you like Paul Thomas Anderson you're gonna have to watch it. His second best film imho and the exception to Adam Sandler's rubbish output. He is wonderful in that film.

I'll give it a go and try and push aside my hatred for Adam Sandler.

pixelburp · 29-01-2013 12:09am

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I'll give it a go and try and push aside my hatred for Adam Sandler.

I actually think Punch Drunk Love wouldn't have worked so well without Sandler. There has always been something ... I dunno, borderline psychotic about his performances & characters from his various 'comedies'; Andersons film quite brilliantly tapped into that bubbling rage. To the point where I wondered if there might have been something oddly cathartic for Sandler himself (though it's a long while since I saw it last; I could just be remembering more than was actually there).

e_e · 29-01-2013 1:55am

Yeah this sums up why the film suited Adam Sandler so perfectly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1p3dkb-oc

JP Liz V1 · 24-05-2013 3:06pm

Sean Penn, Benicio Del Toro, Owen Wilson and Reese Witherspoon also joined the cast

Da Shins Kelly · 01-06-2013 1:07am

e_e wrote: »

Watch Punch-Drunk Love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE2FCCZ50VU

Finally got around to watching this, but didn't really think of it as a comedy as such. I didn't really laugh at all, but I still really loved it. I thought it was very sweet and romantic in an unconventional way and incredibly symbolic in so many ways. I was really surprised by Adam Sandler too. The one and only time I can take him. Thought Philip Seymour Hoffman was brilliant too.

I'm looking forward to what happens with this one.

Da Shins Kelly · 04-06-2013 5:28pm

Couple of set photos have appeared.

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duckworth · 04-06-2013 6:50pm

He looks like Neil Young there.

JP Liz V1 · 05-06-2013 12:44am

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Couple of set photos have appeared.

Is that Anderson's missus Maya Rudolph?

Da Shins Kelly · 05-06-2013 12:50am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is that Anderson's missus Maya Rudolph?

Yes, she has actually signed on too.

JP Liz V1 · 02-07-2013 2:53pm

Peter McRobbie has joined the cast of Paul Thomas Anderson’s Inherent Vice, as the loan shark Adrian Prussia (a part that people had been speculating would go to Sean Penn) - Source EW

JP Liz V1 · 18-09-2014 12:27am

No sign of a teaser trailer yet and it will premiere at the New York Film Festival

fruvai · 20-09-2014 1:27pm

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David Ketchum @KetchumAtMovies · 10h

Inherent Vice trailer to world premiere tomorrow on @YahooMovies in the AM! #WBExclusive

Can't wait !!!

fruvai · 20-09-2014 1:46pm

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Josh Brolin as Bigfoot Bjornsen - now there's a haircut you can set your watch to

JohnFalstaff · 20-09-2014 1:47pm

A nod to Altman in the 2nd image?

PTA just keeps getting better.... The Master was outstanding.

fruvai · 20-09-2014 6:03pm

David Ketchum @KetchumAtMovies · 27m

Sorry guys. Plans have changed. WB Source says Inherent Vice trailer closer to @NYFF World Premiere.

fruvai · 30-09-2014 1:52am

fruvai · 30-09-2014 1:54am

e_e · 30-09-2014 2:50pm

Now that is how you do a trailer!

Sad Professor · 30-09-2014 5:22pm

Yeah, I’ve watched it three times already. You can really feel PTA’s hand in it. As with his previous trailers, though, I’m guessing many of these scenes/moments won’t be in the final film.

emo72 · 01-10-2014 5:54pm

the trailer reminds me of "The Dude" or just "Dude", if you know what i mean.......man.

or "The Big Lebowski"

JP Liz V1 · 01-10-2014 10:01pm

Tarantino vibe from the trailer too

pixelburp · 01-10-2014 10:31pm

That. Now that is how you do a trailer.

Inherent Vice, you had my curiosity, now you have my attention.

AnonoBoy · 02-10-2014 11:37am

emo72 wrote: »

the trailer reminds me of "The Dude" or just "Dude", if you know what i mean.......man.

or "The Big Lebowski"

I thought that too. It put me in mind of The Long Goodbye as well.

Yarf Yarf · 03-10-2014 2:59pm

Amazing trailer. Very, very excited about this one. PTA keeps impressing me with every film. An incredible cast too.

Looper007 · 03-10-2014 4:04pm

Yarf Yarf wrote: »

Amazing trailer. Very, very excited about this one. PTA keeps impressing me with every film. An incredible cast too.

The man's never made a bad movie and doesn't settle to make Oscar bait even though the snubbing off America's best director today is shocking but they did snub Kubrick.

Looper007 · 03-10-2014 4:06pm

emo72 wrote: »

the trailer reminds me of "The Dude" or just "Dude", if you know what i mean.......man.

or "The Big Lebowski"

If it's as quotable as that film and awesome as that film and Phoenix does a Jeff Bridges then we could be on for a stone cold classic.

duckworth · 03-10-2014 4:25pm

Can't wait for this. Seems to have a lighter tone than the last two movies - it's more Boogie Nights than There Will be Blood. Not sure I'm in favour of the move, since The Master and TTWB are pretty much my favourite two films of the past 10 years.

I'll line up for anything he makes though - he's one of the only true geniuses making mainstream movies these days.

I also got a Big Lebowski vibe off it BTW - so it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Yarf Yarf · 05-10-2014 4:21pm

Read some interesting reviews of this already. 'Weird' seems to be the word most closely associated with it and definitely not Oscar-bait-y (one review said that it's probably the kind of film the Academy will hate). Seems that it has really captured the spirit of Pynchon's novel though, which is great to hear.

Arghus · 06-10-2014 12:54am

The embryonic consensus is that it the central mystery is incomprehensible, but if you are willing to accept that you may have a good time. If that is the case at least one thing has been captured with success- the spirit of the novel. It's also reassuring. I read the novel a few years ago and being utterly befuddled by the plot, so I take heart in the fact that said befuddlement has turned out to be widespread and present and correct in the adaptation.

Really looking forward to this. PT Anderson makes amazing films and Thomas Pynchon writes brilliant books. It's likely to be the only adaptation of Pynchon we ever get. The big novels are just literally too huge and baggy to be translated to screen and of the "minor" works, I think only The Crying of Lot 49 would fit the bill for someone brave enough to give it ago.

Yarf Yarf · 06-10-2014 3:15pm

Well, The Master was a lot of character and not much in the way of plot. This could be in a similar vein. I think it's refreshing. He's one director who never fails to be interesting and try things that are a little left of field. I found The Master completely mesmerizing and I could not stop thinking about it for days after I watched it. Could see this one striking a similar chord.

Yarf Yarf · 11-10-2014 3:16pm

The soundtrack is out there if anyone is interested. Some good tracks on there. It includes a previously unreleased Radiohead song and Les Fleurs by Minnie Riperton, who is PTA's wife's mother.

Can't post the link to the article because I'm a new user (wtf?), but it's on Spotify and Youtube, I think.

charlie_says · 13-10-2014 1:39am

emo72 wrote: »

the trailer reminds me of "The Dude" or just "Dude", if you know what i mean.......man.

or "The Big Lebowski"

Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

BlutendeRabe · 20-10-2014 7:09pm

fruvai wrote: »

Whoever selected that waif to do the narration should be shot.

Here's Thomas Pynchon back in 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjWKPdDk0_U

Just hope it doesn't turn out like the Counselor or Prometheus. You know, over-fricking-hyped garbage.

Sad Professor · 20-10-2014 7:11pm

Newsom is narrating the whole film.

johnny_ultimate · 20-10-2014 7:50pm

Just when I thought I couldn't look forward to this anymore, I find out my favourite musician Joanna Newsom is narrating the whole thing. I thought she would only have a small cameo

e_e · 20-10-2014 8:58pm

Kind of brilliant on PTA's part to have such a divisive voice narrating the whole film, kind of a way of warning "this won't be everyone" right off the bat.

Looper007 · 20-10-2014 10:14pm

e_e wrote: »

Kind of brilliant on PTA's part to have such a divisive voice narrating the whole film, kind of a way of warning "this won't be everyone" right off the bat.

Well its split opinion pretty much like PTA's The Master, some think its great five stars at it and some aren't quite enamoured with it saying its hard to follow. I doubt it's going to be PTA Oscar break through then :pac:. Who cares as long as its PTA at his best then all is good in the world.

Yarf Yarf · 20-10-2014 10:22pm

PTA doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who places much value on the approval of the Oscars. He seems far too confident and uncompromising in his own visions to care for that.

Honestly, if your films are a bit much for the Oscars to take, you're probably doing something right.

Sad Professor · 20-10-2014 10:29pm

Re: the hard to follow criticisms, an impenetrable plot is basically a requirement of hardboiled fiction. I’ve no idea what’s going in most detective noirs and I’m not sure i’m supposed to either. Their plots are designed to be as confusing as possible. PTA plays this up in the trailer for Inherent Vice.

fruvai · 19-11-2014 8:08pm

charlie_says · 20-11-2014 7:42am

Try to stay away from thread until after movie....must try....hard already

s8n · 11-12-2014 10:32am

When is this out here ?

fruvai · 11-12-2014 3:11pm

s8n wrote: »

When is this out here ?

30 January

ciaranlong · 11-12-2014 3:19pm

I'm looking forward to another crime movie coming out soon - it should be out on Jan 1st I think. It's called "A Most Violent Year". It's set in New York in 1981 and stars Jessica Chastain. Early reviews are comparing it to The Godfather, so my expectations are certainly high!

Looper007 · 09-01-2015 11:36am

After seen it three times in a row (I'm that big of a fan of Paul Thomas Anderson and his more mature work needs rewatching although this is a good 2 and a half hours) is it his best work? No far from it I still have Boogie Nights, Magnolia and There Will Be Blood in my top 3 but you don't get bad with Anderson and this is still a very good film. It could have done with shorten, plus anyone looking for a linear straight detective story in the vain of the Big Lebowski are going to be disappointed. You will get confused if you try to follow any of the plot just go with the flow and you find yourself gripped.

Joaquin Phoenix holds the whole film together as Larry "Doc" Sportello , a pot-head private detective who runs his business out of an actual Doctors office. Is it as good as his performance in The Master, no but he's still pretty damn good. Josh Brolin steals the film as Lt. Det. Christian F. "Bigfoot" Bjornsen , who hates Doc just cause he's a hippie. But he get's the best lines in the whole film and anytime him and Phoenix are on screen you get some of the films bets moments.

Katherine Waterston, as Shasta Fay Hepworth the ex girlfriend of Sportello, who was been talked up as the films shining glory and new bright star in Hollywood, was fine but nothing that made me think that we have a new Jessica Chastain in the making. It's a fine performance but maybe I was expecting some mind blowing by all the hype around her. She's on screen more then 15 minutes. Reese Witherspoon, Jena Malone, Owen Wilson and Benico Del Toro give good performances in what are basically cameo roles. Some praise has to go to Martin Short for probably the best few minutes in the whole film

As a Drug up hippie Dentist who takes advantage of young women, Snorting dope and shagging his Asian Secertary and whole scene when they are pulled over by the cops is funny as hell

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It's not a classic by any means (I will expect a few critical trashing's on here once people see it) but I say it probably end up in my top 20 list by the end of the year. Not really surprised the Awards aren't going its way, Anderson is way too weird to ever get a sniff of winning them. But a film directed by Paul Thomas Anderson and based on the novel by Thomas Pynchon would always be a interesting look.

Inherent Vice

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