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Scopetronic vista 5

  • 06-11-2012 5:37pm
    #1
    terry54
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭


    Hi i was asked to look at an alarm scopetronic vista 5 that was installed in a house 15 years ago.Does anyone know how to partset and inhibit pirs or does anyone know where i can download the manual.


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  • #2
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Should be taking them out at this stage. Its a lot more than 15 years since I installed them.;)
    Sending you the manual now. Any problems give me a shout.


  • #3
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Koolkid have a bit of respect for a classy panel.


  • #4
    markaudia4
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭markaudia4


    Hi, I was wondering if anyone had a copy of the manual for the Scopetronic Vista 5 alarm?

    Many thanks,

    Mark.


  • #5
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    PMed you that manual. Hope it helps.
    If you get stuck you know where we are.


  • #6
    markaudia4
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭markaudia4


    Colm,

    Thanks so much for the manual. Much appreciated!

    The system is installed in my grandmothers house and the alarm went off recently and my girlfriend disconnected the power to it in order to silence the alarm. It is installed in the house since before my grandmother moved in over 9 years ago and has never been used according to her. I am hoping to be able to reprogram the system as we will be away for a few weeks and would like to have the system operational for her in our absence. I do not have any idea of what the code currently is. I am hoping it might be possible to do a hard reset or reprogram a new code using the engineer access code?

    Many thanks for the manual.


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  • #7
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Try the default method of powering the system down completely & removing the factory link & power back up.
    If that doesn't work it may be engineer locked.


  • #8
    markaudia4
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭markaudia4


    Thanks so much for the tip.

    Will be trying this tonight when I get over to the house.

    Fingers crossed its not engineer locked.


  • #9
    denis64
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭denis64


    Looking for the manual myself, i need to alter the sensitivity on the window sensors on my parents alarm. Any advice would be welcome!


  • #10
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    I PMed you that manual Denis. If you need any help you know where we are.;)


  • #11
    denis64
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭denis64


    Thanks Koolkid for replying so quickly. Hopefully this will help me get it sorted! Much appreciated


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  • #12
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Your welcome Denis. If you need anything give us a shout .


  • #13
    jpfahy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭jpfahy


    I would appreciate a copy of the manual too please!!


  • #14
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    PMed you that...;)


  • #15
    Bridget_
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Bridget_


    Hi,

    I'm looking for a manual for Scopetronic Vista 5. Its for my aunts, they've recently moved into a new house! :)


  • #16
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Sent you that. Hope it helps.


  • #17
    Funnyonion79
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Funnyonion79


    Hi Koolkid,

    Could I get that manual off you as well please? I've moved into a house that has one of these alarms as well and it keeps going off when we set it and leave the house, even though nothing seems to be setting it off.

    I wonder would it be worth changing the battery in it..? Any advice welcome :)


  • #18
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    I sent you that manual.
    What number is showing up when you disarm the system after it activates?
    That will correspond to a zone. You will need to check the resistance on that zone to find the fault.
    There's more information on how to do this in this thread http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056655452
    See post 9..


  • #19
    Funnyonion79
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Funnyonion79


    Thanks Koolkid - much appreciated.

    It flashes up as A2 and this is still flashing on the display, despite the alarm not having been set in weeks.

    A2 seems to indicate a problem with one of the sensors. This alarm is donkeys' years old so I think I'll get someone out to have a look. I had a read through that link you posted but I don't know what resistors are etc

    Thanks anyway for your help!


  • #20
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    There are no resistors in that system so you can just connect a meter directly to the pair you disconnect from the panel.


  • #21
    mithrandir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭mithrandir


    Hi Koolkid,

    Can I also get a copy of that manual please? I have the same alarm which went off 3 times last night as the power very briefly went out a few times. It gave the code PF so I guess the battery just needs replacing? Do you know if I kill the power to the mains and then disconnect the old battery will all the old settings (including the alarm code) get reset to factory default? If so, what do I do? There is a 5 digit code on a sticker inside the door of the unit which I guess is the engineer code but I'm lost without the manual.

    Thanks in advance.


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  • #22
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    PMed you that


  • #23
    mithrandir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭mithrandir


    Thanks for that. I tried that "engineer code" I found but it does nothing. Am I right in saying that when I disconnect from the main and disconnect the battery that it will need to be reprogrammed or do you know if it should retain all of these settings?


  • #24
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    mithrandir wrote: »
    Thanks for that. I tried that "engineer code" I found but it does nothing. Am I right in saying that when I disconnect from the main and disconnect the battery that it will need to be reprogrammed or do you know if it should retain all of these settings?

    If you down power the system it will retain the systems settings.
    If you down power the system and remove the LK1 link it will default back to default settings.
    This will mean the system will need to be set up again.
    If F3 appears the system has being engineer locked and will not default this way.

    PF refers to a power fail on the system.

    www.altor.ie



  • #25
    mithrandir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭mithrandir


    Thanks Altor, I presume I am seeing PF because the mains failed (albeit very briefly) and the battery has no charge to keep the system up? The battery is at least 3 years old (since we moved in) but probably a lot older.


  • #26
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    mithrandir wrote: »
    Thanks Altor, I presume I am seeing PF because the mains failed (albeit very briefly) and the battery has no charge to keep the system up? The battery is at least 3 years old (since we moved in) but probably a lot older.

    That is more than likely the issue. You wont need to default the system to replace the battery. Turn off the mains going to the control panel, When you open the systems control panel it will activate. Put in your user code to disarm. If the battery is completely dead the system will turn off. The battery replacement would be a 12V 7 amp. Available on the suppliers list here.

    www.altor.ie



  • #27
    mithrandir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭mithrandir


    Great, thanks for the help.


  • #28
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    mithrandir wrote: »
    Great, thanks for the help.

    Your welcome, always happy to help :D

    www.altor.ie



  • #29
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    mithrandir wrote: »
    Thanks for that. I tried that "engineer code" I found but it does nothing. Am I right in saying that when I disconnect from the main and disconnect the battery that it will need to be reprogrammed or do you know if it should retain all of these settings?

    Is there an installation company name on the system. ?
    If so PM me it. I may be able to source the code for you.


  • #30
    dikiedavis
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭dikiedavis


    hi sorry to bother you koolkid,i have a scopetronic vista 5 alarm, donkeys old I know!! front door contact has stopped working, even when alarm is set I can open the door and walk in and alarm wont activate,only wen I go upstairs and activate pir the alarm activates,so Im wondering would a hkc or similar door contact do as replacement ?? any help would be great cheers


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  • #31
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Any standard alarm contact will work with this.


  • #32
    CBF
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭CBF


    I've just moved into a new house with a scopetronic homeguard alarm. The previous owners didn't know the code and I'm hoping to be able to use the alarm (neighbour broken into over the weekend) Can anyone advise of the engineers code or where to get it? Thanks.


  • #33
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Engineer code may have been set by the installer. I'll send you over the manual to take a look over.


  • #34
    stuartkee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭stuartkee


    This panel does not meet the insurance company requirements as it is IS199 current standard is EN 50131 and to get the insurance discount and be complaint with your policy so not worth the trouble or effort .


  • #35
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    stuartkee wrote: »
    This panel does not meet the insurance company requirements as it is IS199 current standard is EN 50131 and to get the insurance discount and be complaint with your policy so not worth the trouble or effort .

    How long have insurance companies changed their requirements, have they moved on from the forms stating IS199 / EN50131, I mean its what 10 years now of 50131?


  • #36
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    I haven't seen it to much on forms etc. On my own I told them what I had re monitoring smoke alarms etc. Seems to come up more for over the phone quotations.


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  • #37
    stuartkee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭stuartkee


    THE CHANGE WAS MORE TO DO WITH A BETTER ENG USER LOG AS MOST OLD PANELS WONT TELL THEM WEATHER IT WAS SET OR NOT SO UNDER 50131 THEY ALL DO . ANOTHER WAY OF NOT PAYING OUT ON CLAIMS BUT WORTH TELLING CUSTOMERS


  • #38
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    stuartkee wrote: »
    THE CHANGE WAS MORE TO DO WITH A BETTER ENG USER LOG AS MOST OLD PANELS WONT TELL THEM WEATHER IT WAS SET OR NOT SO UNDER 50131 THEY ALL DO . ANOTHER WAY OF NOT PAYING OUT ON CLAIMS BUT WORTH TELLING CUSTOMERS

    So true, my honest and perhaps naive mind would not have even thought of that.


  • #39
    BJLee
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭BJLee


    Hi, I have just moved to a new home that has Vista-5 alarm. The panel is displaying as "t1". How do I reset not to blink these, so I will be able to set alarm again? The second question is that the bell box in front of the house is not blinking, is it normal for this security alarm? Would it be possible to the bell blinking so people will notice there is an alarm working (to prevent intruders)? Thanks


  • #40
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You have a tamper fault on zone one. You should check all the connections on that circuit.
    You could replace the external bell for a new one that would give you move visible LEDs.


  • #41
    BJLee
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭BJLee


    Thank you for the quick reply KoolKid. The Vista-5 that I have looks too old (more than 20 years). Would you think I should completely replace to a new system?


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  • #42
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    I would be looking into upgrading rather than spending dead money on a panel that old.


  • #43
    BJLee
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭BJLee


    KoolKid wrote: »
    I would be looking into upgrading rather than spending dead money on a panel that old.

    KoolKid, are you in this business? you seem to know everything. would I be able to get quotes for upgrade to blinking bell box? I just was able to remove `t1` message, thanks


  • #44
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    BJLee wrote: »
    KoolKid, are you in this business? you seem to know everything. would I be able to get quotes for upgrade to blinking bell box? I just was able to remove `t1` message, thanks

    Sure.
    PM me your number and I'll give you a shout tomorrow.


  • #45
    sharon.wilson1
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭sharon.wilson1


    Hi there,

    Looking for the user manual for a Scopetronic Vista 5 Alarm - if anyone has a copy it would be most appreciated!

    Many thanks


  • #46
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,773 ✭✭✭✭altor


    sharon.wilson1 wrote: »
    Hi there,

    Looking for the user manual for a Scopetronic Vista 5 Alarm - if anyone has a copy it would be most appreciated!

    Many thanks

    Sent you that by P.M.

    www.altor.ie



  • #47
    maasc2
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭maasc2


    Hi KoolKid, just downloaded user manual from the internet. Is your manual an installation manual? if yes could you let me have a copy as I am doing some work on my house that has a vista 5 Alarm fitted.
    Thanks
    Christian


  • #48
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Sent you that.


  • #49
    eoinm769
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭eoinm769


    Hi All, had a power outage yesterday and since then the vista 5 alarm is showing all faults and i cant seem to clear them any ideas? Cheers


  • #50
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    If you enter 0#4 what displays?
    Can you post up the full sequence?


  • #51
    eoinm769
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭eoinm769


    KoolKid wrote: »
    If you enter 0#4 what displays?
    Can you post up the full sequence?


    Hey Koolkid, so pressing 0#4 gives f1, if i enter the alarm code the sequece is A1 A2 A3 A4 FA PA F1 T6 T7 T8 T9 F then FA PA F1T6 T7 T8 T9 again


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