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Not sure what to do with this muddy area in garden..

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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Finally starting to get somewhere...

    Decking is pretty much done now. Just needs a bit of a 'face' on the sides of it that are exposed, the post-toppers stuck in place, a bit of routing on the hand rail and a small support block on the hand rail (so it doesn't snap when people stand on it.. which no doubt, everyone will!).


    On the Paving front, i am short sand, so I need to get more, but I also had a piece break, so need to get that replaced, too.. always something! :(

    I know I was giving out about the post-toppers in the last post, but now that I can see he was planning to route around the edges, it looks better (in my opinion).


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    The paving isn't finished, just yet, though. There's still an extra row of slabs to go on the side against the wall, and the side closest the house.


    A friend of mine was also getting rid of a few carpet tiles. I reckon these could be a decent idea for the sheds? Do the entire floor of the small shed? Paint it, put a layer of rubber anti-fatigue mats down and two layers of carpet tiles? Do carpet tiles just sit in place? I presume you staple them in or something like that?

    Carpet Tiles:


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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    You could make the smaller shed into your utility - plumb in for a sink, washing machine, dryer / a good few airing racks. Then shelve off the remainder for storage to keep the bigger shed free from clutter so you can use it as an extra room.


    As soon as you mentioned the word 'plumb' I just seen a load of Euro signs :P

    I do want to put a dryer in there though (as I don't want a clothesline in the garden anymore). Can you just fire a dryer in anywhere? It doesn't require anything other than electricity does it?! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭laros


    It doesn't require anything other than electricity does it?!

    Electricity and you will have to vent it out through the wall ... not a big job.... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭The Diddakoi


    laros wrote: »
    Electricity and you will have to vent it out through the wall ... not a big job.... :)

    Unless you buy a condenser dryer, then it's just plug no vent :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,522 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    As soon as you mentioned the word 'plumb' I just seen a load of Euro signs :P

    I do want to put a dryer in there though (as I don't want a clothesline in the garden anymore). Can you just fire a dryer in anywhere? It doesn't require anything other than electricity does it?! :confused:

    :eek:

    You can't beat air dried clothes. Please don't rule out a clothes line - fit a retractable one!

    Good job, and great thread - I'm loving following the progress reports!


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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Honestly never knew there was such a thing as a retractable clothes line!

    Maybe it might be an idea for the side of the house (not a lot of sun, but seems to be a 'wind trap' of sorts. Any little wind gets magnified coming through it). Don't want it ruining the look of my back area. I see Argos have one, too, €9 for 15 meters.. seems fairly reasonable!


    http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/8505820/c_1/1|category_root|Kitchen+and+laundry|14418476/c_2/3|19805487|Laundry+and+cleaning|14418551/c_3/4|cat_14418551|Washing+lines|14418552.htm


    Might give that a test run at the side of the house and see how it goes before buying a condenser dryer (I'd rather not have the hassle of trying to get ventilation going.. I literally just sealed up several holes in the wall last week! Haha).



    Can ye guys offer any opinions on the aesthetics of the doors? the decking was initially supposed to be stained darker (to match up with the doors), but I tried two coats of the stuff I have on a cut off of the decking, and I wasn't mad about it. I think I'd rather leave the deck it's natural colour (I realise it still has to be oiled).

    So that means the doors are now the only dark coloured items. The options I'm considering are (keep in mind, the sheds themselves will be painted magnolia).

    1) Keep the doors as they are, and paint the wooden/decking frame of the doors on the bigger shed magnolia (to match in with the shed itself).

    2) Paint the wood/deck frame of the doors on the big shed magnolia, and paint both sets of doors (both sheds) white.

    3) Leave the doors as they are, and stain the decking frame to darken it.



    I think white doors would look better, overall, but I'm not 100% sure. I realise this option would be the most work-intensive option (always the way!) but I think it would also look the best..?


    EDIT: When I say decking frame, Im not talking about the decking itself, i mean the pieces of decking that are used around the doors on the big shed:

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    EDIT 2: This day 2 months ago this thread was made! Slow progress! :(


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Option 2 please ;) I'd paint the doors white - will brighten up the place even more and add cohesion/consistency to the look. The dekking will darken up naturally over the winter.

    Great progress, I love following along from home!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    I think the carpet tiles are glued down.

    I'll tell you what, i'm starting to get quite jealous of that deck job mate, its looking the part. In fact, I think I might change my plans with my own garden. I've a bit of a patio area at the back door, that was thrown down by the prior owners of the house. I was gonna replace it with another patio, but seeing your deck there, they way it goes up to the door of the house - I think that looks brilliant.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cali_girl wrote: »
    Option 2 please wink.png I'd paint the doors white - will brighten up the place even more and add cohesion/consistency to the look. The dekking will darken up naturally over the winter.

    Great progress, I love following along from home!


    My concerns about painting the doors are them sticking, the paint peeling, etc. (Also will I regret it - how much will the deck darken? Would it end up looking better with darker doors if the deck darkens...? confused.png ).


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    I think the carpet tiles are glued down.

    I'll tell you what, i'm starting to get quite jealous of that deck job mate, its looking the part. In fact, I think I might change my plans with my own garden. I've a bit of a patio area at the back door, that was thrown down by the prior owners of the house. I was gonna replace it with another patio, but seeing your deck there, they way it goes up to the door of the house - I think that looks brilliant.


    Yeah I think you're right about the tiles being glued alright. Would make sense. The bottom side of them almost feels like an adhesive anyway. It's very grippy. I think I might try to get away with just laying them as they are and see how they get on. If they lift I'll try a more permanent approach.


    Today the paving and decking are both finito (well.. not quite.. a small bit to do, as I'll detail after the photos... 95% complete!).



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    Unfortunately.. Despite trying to hide it in the above photos.. there's still a fair bit of a mess...


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    On the paving front - I have a tub of.. erm.. something.. I don't know the name off the top of my head. After the paving's been sitting for 2-3 days, you wet the paving, throw this stuff over it, brush it into the cracks, and wet again.. it bonds in the cracks and helps hold everything together apparently (and looks really well, too... I'm told...).


    On the decking end of things, I wanted a small 20" x 20" decking table made, too, but I'll work on that tomorrow or Sunday (busy on Saturday, so Garden will get neglected on Saturday). The hand rail, also needs a good sanding, and the whole thing needs a proper sweeping to get rid of sawdust etc. (kinda hoping the weather/wind will do that for me!) and then spend a bit of time oiling it up.


    I also want to pull up the rest of the gravel and put more weed cover down (a weed came through the other stuff the other day.. I was pissed off!). So I have a much better cover (you can see it lying on the ground in the above photos).


    After that it's a lot of fairly tedious, but ever important, painting... Yay...

    But I'm delighted to see both the paving and decking down. Happy with that. My dad was saying it might be an idea to buy more paving and extend the paving by one row on each side (to make it a longer rectangle, rather than a square). He has a good point, but I think that'll be a long-finger job...


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not all fun and games, unfortunately. The shed interiors are still due an overhaul..

    Big shed:


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    Small shed (with it's unfinished and collapsing MDF ceiling)


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    (the chairs in there are the ones that'll end up on the decking when I get the decking table made up).


    Also, the alleyway at the side of the house:


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    Also need to get some trellis on the long wall. And sort out the guttering. And put something on the top and bottom of the small shed's doors to fill in the gaps. And get floor paint. And build a rabbit hutch/run. Wouldn't mind a wheelie bin enclosure, either. Perhaps knock the redundant coal bunker (or what's left of it.. can't be seen in pics as it's behind the bins). There's a lot to do yet, but I feel like I'm over the hardest part.

    I think my next steps will be:

    Painting everything outdoors.
    Removing warped and battered MDF sheets from small shed (replacing with fresh ones).
    Trellis on long wall.
    Partition wall + door in big shed.
    Rabbit hutch + run.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Great work, you've acheived so much. Respect for your tenacity.

    Two things, you have 8'x4' sheets in the big shed, maybe use some to replace ceiling in small shed ? (If you hadn't intended on doing that)

    Also, you seem to have at least 6 bags of peat moss knocking around, id be strongly considering planting at this stage and maybe get some raised beds for winter shrubs and summer flowers?

    Keep up the super work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭slinky2000


    That decking looks spot on to me. Tidied the place up nicely!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Oh and for a partition wall in big shed, would the frame from the patio area that you have in the alleyway be any use in the making of that? I know proper partition would be 4x2" but....it won't be a habitable space so...


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Great work, you've acheived so much. Respect for your tenacity.

    Two things, you have 8'x4' sheets in the big shed, maybe use some to replace ceiling in small shed ? (If you hadn't intended on doing that)

    They were bought to do the ceiling. I need 5 sheets to do the ceiling (which is what I have). However, I need 7 sheets do to the partition wall.

    I have 2.5 sheets of 8x4 plywood that's not really got an intended use.

    I was thinking, would it be worth using the plywood for the ceiling instead of MDF? Or will the plywood be useless for that? Using the ply for the ceiling means I'd get away with just ordering 2 more ply and 2 more MDF. (rather than my current plan of buying 7 more MDF and not being sure what to do with the ply).

    (the ply was initially bought to make a wheelie bin housing, but that never happened.. I will still do it.. but not out of plywood).


    Also, you seem to have at least 6 bags of peat moss knocking around, id be strongly considering planting at this stage and maybe get some raised beds for winter shrubs and summer flowers?

    Need to get my flowerbeds first, unfortunately. :o Also have a bag of mini bark that may or may not see some use now.

    vicwatson wrote: »
    Oh and for a partition wall in big shed, would the frame from the patio area that you have in the alleyway be any use in the making of that? I know proper partition would be 4x2" but....it won't be a habitable space so...

    I'd like to do that, to be honest. Would save a few Euro and give a use for that wood (As it has no other intended use at the moment). However, I do want to stick a door on this wall, and I'm not 100% sure if the patio frame would be thick enough.

    It's only 35x50mm (1.5" x 2", roughly). I wouldn't be against using it, but I'm not sure if I'd just be setting myself up for a pain in the ass when it comes to trying to hinge a door on a frame so thin (unless I made the door frame out of a thicker wood, but then the whole wall may look a tad silly?).


    I must google it. I'm sure there's some workaround from people who've been in a similar position.



    Cheers for the kind words on the garden (and keen eye!). :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    When's the bbq eh !!!


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vicwatson wrote: »
    When's the bbq eh !!!



    Well if everything keeps going at the current pace, I'd say I'll definitely be having hotdogs over the barbecue before February!


    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Well if everything keeps going at the current pace, I'd say I'll definitely be having hotdogs over the barbecue before February!


    :P

    Should that "I'll" not be "we'll" :D


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Should that "I'll" not be "we'll" :D


    Haha.. Of course it should! Hell, all boardsies are welcome in!

    Full guided tour of the garden is €7, with option to purchase before and after framed photos from as little as €20.

    Platinum ticket costs €50 and includes access to both sheds, a framed before and after photograph and a picture taken with me.

    Food and drink available at additional cost. Food not purchased on the premises shall not be allowed on the premises.

    Also available to purchase will be 100% genuine Irish top soil.

    Other Attractions include:
    - Rabbit petting zoo.
    - Win your weight in pink granite with the 'find the stone' competition.
    - Visual contest: Are you standing lopsided, or is the gutter just slanty?
    - Spray the weeds contest (Zap them before they get you! fun for all ages!).
    - And much, much more.

    Again, entry with full tour from only €7! Bargain! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    :D what top soil. I don't see no top soil :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Seen this job yesterday and it really is spot on. Plenty of hard work gone into it.


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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vicwatson wrote: »
    :D what top soil. I don't see no top soil :D

    I'm ordering some in from the states. :D


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gave the place a bit of a clean up today. Threw the chairs onto the deck just to get a feel for how much space they'd swallow up (thankfully the deck still feels quite big, even with them on it, and I'd say the deck table, when it's made, won't make it seem too much smaller, either.. hopefully).

    Tried to put together a table I got (new) on adverts a while back, only to discover that none of the fittings are correct. So I tried to do a quick workaround but it wasn't happening. Need to pick up a few L brackets and flatten them. Should sort everything out, then. Thankfully the chairs that go with the table are pre-built.

    Nothing has been done since the last update, except a bit of cleaning up. There's still a bit of litter/debris scattered throughout the gravel and the deck is in need of a bit of sanding and oiling, as well as a last piece being needed to be put in place on the gutter, etc. so a bit of maintenance work needed doing, but I'm glad it's somewhat usable for the moment.


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    (look at that view! Like a 5 star, cliff-side hotel! :D )

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    Table that I got frustrated with:

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    Some wooden blinds I picked up (for free!) on adverts. Will be glad to make some use of them!

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    Also from adverts, for a painfully reasonable €30, an (insulated!) house for the rabbits to come home to.


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    And their proposed living area in the garden:

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    I reckon their 'land' will be about 8.5ft long and 3ft wide. The house is 20x20 inches (and 24" tall). Was considering getting an extra little house and attempting to stack them, and making their run 2 storeys, so they'd have more living space, but I'm not sure what the best way of doing that is, yet.

    It's still on the long finger though.

    On Friday I ordered some wood, and as VicWatson suggested, I'm going to use the wood from the paving frame, along with some more lengths the same size, to build the partition wall.

    I've been mooching around adverts.ie to see can I find a door that matches in with the ones I already have (preferably for free, as I'm broke from this garden!), and I found two, in Kildare, so hoping that I'll get them (asked about them earlier but person getting rid hasn't been online). (I only need one, but if taking two means I get it for free, hey, I'll take that! :D ).


    Depending on tomorrow's weather, I hope to get the table put together properly, and a bit more painting done (perhaps the big shed and the wall behind the decking).


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Small update to keep things ticking over. Got the table together, and threw the table and chairs out.. along with the eh.. swimming pool.. which is pictured, covered with weed killer cover... and there was me thinking it might take the look off the garden... :rolleyes:



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    Still though.. I suppose what's the point in having the garden more functional if it's not gonna be used. In fairness, the brother's two kids had a great time messing in it. That was on Sunday. The weather was decent so the family gathered around and it was good to see some of the work paying off and people actually enjoying it (and complimenting it). The decking and the chairs on it, are extremely comfy during a bit of sunshine. Just need to get that little deck table whipped up sooner rather than later!

    If ye see those plastic chairs for sale anywhere (I got them in Heatons, but I think Aldi and Homestore also carried them, everyone was charging €20 each, but only Heatons had them in black) I'd advise taking a look. They're very, very comfortable.



    Anyway, on with the work. Goes to show what a little painting can do to clean a place up!


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    The wall got one coat.. one thick coat.. it took me 3 hours and approximately 8 litres of paint. Thought it was never going to end! :( But amazed at the difference it makes. Will tackle the other long wall next, and then do the big shed, I think. As far as I know, that's the outdoors section of the garden done with (minus rabbit-related activities).

    Speaking of which, does anyone know what I have to buy for a rabbit run? I believe there's a particular type of cage/mesh/wire you can buy on a roll, but it has to be a certain type (as they can eat their way through most of them?). Googling but not finding a lot..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭Rancid


    Just replied to your thread in the Animal and Pet forum with a few links, there might be some info there to help you out.
    Brilliant garden project, by the way, great work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Looking extremely well now in fairness. The pictures provided are doing nothing to subside my jealousy!


  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭lovehathi


    Hi Just a short query ur circle looks good what steps to follow to put that one down, i want to do one my self also. Also roughly how much it cost
    thanks


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Looking extremely well now in fairness. The pictures provided are doing nothing to subside my jealousy!


    Yeah but it's cost a fair whack to do it. If someone showed me a before/after photo of my garden, or €4k in cash, I think I know which I'd opt for! :o

    lovehathi wrote: »
    Hi Just a short query ur circle looks good what steps to follow to put that one down, i want to do one my self also. Also roughly how much it cost
    thanks


    The paving is called 'Chalice Circle'. The paving itself cost me €200 for the set. Then I spent about another €250 on paving sand, hardcore, cement, etc. to put it down on top of (but that said, I dug my hole for the paving ass ways. If you used proper tools and dug down a small bit, you wouldn't need as much hardcore/sand to set the paving on. I dug down about a foot in some places, and it was quite uneven, so needed lots of stuff to fill the gaps and still be even).


    (if you don't know; hardcore is effectively a bag of small broken stones. I didn't know at first, so needed it explained via google).

    You'll spend less on these by buying them in bags of 1 ton each. I was being an idiot and buying them in smaller 25kg bags. I reckon I'd have halved my costs on these by buying a ton bag of each (and i'd have had some left over). :(


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    Also completely unrelated.. I had a parasol, and a base for it.. I remember where i left the parasol and the base. But today, when my dad was on at me to get them, i could find the parasol, but not the base! :confused:

    Searched the place repeatedly. High and low. Could not for the life of me find the fcuking thing at all! :mad: Who loses a parasol base!?


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    Yeah but it's cost a fair whack to do it. If someone showed me a before/after photo of my garden, or €4k in cash, I think I know which I'd opt for! :o

    I feel the pain buddy! I've just had my 4th skip delivered to take away builders rubble. That's 1k down the swanny. Hiring a jackhammer has cost me 600 so far. And another 400 odd on stone and drainage pipe, thats all before I take delivery of a load of topsoil.

    When the entire garden is done, I reckon it'll have cost me about 6k, if I put in decking,and replace the fence surrounding the house with precautions concrete fencing


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    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    I feel the pain buddy! I've just had my 4th skip delivered to take away builders rubble. That's 1k down the swanny. Hiring a jackhammer has cost me 600 so far. And another 400 odd on stone and drainage pipe, thats all before I take delivery of a load of topsoil.

    When the entire garden is done, I reckon it'll have cost me about 6k, if I put in decking,and replace the fence surrounding the house with precautions concrete fencing

    Jesus, that's hefty :(


    Well, I'm just after hitting the 4k mark, I believe. However, there's still a few finishing touches (and I haven't even gotten a rabbit yet!). I'd say i'll hit €5k by the time I'm done.

    If you reckon you'll be in for 6k, then I'd hate to see what the actual cost will be :P Cos you'll never judge the budget right.

    I still remember sitting in my car talking to a girl I know about the garden, before I had started doing anything. I distinctly remember stating "with €500 or €600 put into it it'll be done and it'll look a lot better". How naive I was!


    Do you happen to have a progress thread on here, by the way, Gerry? or any pics to share? :) Would love a before/after thread on this forum! :D (maybe there is one and I just haven't found it, though?).


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