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JC Decaux signs - take extra care

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    #32
    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    (I'm not convinced the surveyors mark is necessarily connected with the sign).

    It is. It is referenced in the planning permission.

    The background to this is DCC granting planning permission, for a sign that benefits them (whoo look at our shiny new bikes) and benefits JC Decaux for about €100m upwards (or about €100,000 per bike)

    The signs were the subject of individual planning permissions by JCD (120 in total, so to object to them all would cost you €240). Naturally they were all granted permission apart from the ones when they screwed up and tried to put them on Grafton Street and O'Connell Street, conveniently ignoring that they are architectural conservation areas. These were they were swiftly withdrawn, presumably when it was pointed out to JCD. Interestingly, 'Bertie's' sign in Drumcondra was also withdraw.

    Well, several individuals appealed these to An Bord Pleanala. A total of 24 signs went up for appeal (at a cost of €210 + €80 for an Oral Hearing request - you don't get any of that back if you win, unlike the courts. Ireland is also the only European country where a charge is levied to exercise your democratic rights)

    All 24 were rejected by the Inspector's report, unfortunately the Board decided to allow a handful to be erected. The inspector highlighted the safety concerns and so did the Dublin Transport Office. One of the signs under appeal was actually withdrawn during that appeal, as the roads engineer admitted it wasn't safe.

    So now there are 72 of these to go up, and these are just the pavement sized ones; there is worse to come.

    These are coming soon....
    PICT0066-1.jpg


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    #33
    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Just heard an emergency motion will be put to the Council tonight calling for a complete halt to all work until a Health and Safety review has been conducted.

    Tune in ... they usually have to be taken before 9pm

    Meeting just started

    http://www.dublincity.public-i.tv/site/#webcast

    Well done everyone!


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    #34
    Chris_533976
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭Chris_533976


    Get this sent to every newspaper in Ireland and a good rake of them in England.


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    #35
    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    MadsL wrote: »

    The background to this is DCC granting planning permission, for a sign that benefits them (whoo look at our shiny new bikes) and benefits JC Decaux for about €100m upwards (or about €100,000 per bike)

    I'm lost here ...what are those bikes you're talking about ?


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    #36
    TheCityManager
    Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭TheCityManager


    J*sus..that's scandalous lads...

    As you know I'm in DCC (but not the city manager :rolleyes:) I'll get onto head of roads n traffic in the morning with those pics..

    J*sus heads will roll over that :mad:


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    #37
    omb0wyn5ehpij9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    That is shocking :eek:


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    #38
    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Background

    http://ireland.archiseek.com/news/2008/000134.html

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/anger-rises-over-controversial--billboards-for-bikes-campaign-1063464.html

    http://www.independent.ie/business/media/bikead-deal-in-bumpy-ride-1198822.html

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0211/breaking63.htm


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    #39
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    peasant wrote: »
    I'm lost here ...what are those bikes you're talking about ?

    Some marketing guru went to Amsterdam for a weekend and came back full of ideas...


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    #40
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Hanley wrote: »
    That is absolutely astounding.

    Great post.

    +1. :mad:


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    #41
    sionnach
    Registered Users Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭sionnach


    Just got a reply from one of the councillors i texted, Christy Burke.

    "I made rep hear at city hall in the last 10 mins, CM will investigate asap"


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    #42
    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    The City Council just passed a emergency motion (unanimously and agreed as without debate) that;

    All work be halted on the JC Decaux scheme until a complete health and safety report has been issued (words to that effect)

    Christy mentioned the emails and texts that he received - so thank you all that made the effort.

    Of course city management wriggled like crazy....


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    #43
    Cionád
    Registered Users Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Cionád


    MadsL wrote: »
    The City Council just passed a emergency motion (unanimously and agreed as without debate) that;

    All work be halted on the JC Decaux scheme until a complete health and safety report has been issued (words to that effect)

    Christy mentioned the emails and texts that he received - so thank you all that made the effort.

    Of course city management wriggled like crazy....

    The system works! :eek:

    Well done! thread of the Week !! :)


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    #44
    sionnach
    Registered Users Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭sionnach


    I think the billboard should be replaced (a few feet further back) with a massive bronze statue of MadsL


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    #45
    Stark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,892 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    YIPPEE!!!


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    #46
    Juan Pablo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Juan Pablo


    Someone should get political legend Noel Ivory on the case imho!

    Nice work MadsL


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    #47
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Great progress, lets hope it turns into a result.


    Great result for Boards, if councillor were in any way influenced by emails from here!


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    #48
    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    The system works!

    Only if you use it....


    Well done everyone....


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    #49
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    MadsL wrote: »
    Only if you use it....


    Well done everyone....

    Well done to you for getting it started!!

    Maybe you can tackle fuel prices now... like that other guy :D:D:D


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    #50
    johnnyrotten
    Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    SteveC wrote: »
    Because, like most employees of the state, they are only paid from the neck down.

    Thinking for themselves is not something permitted by their union.

    Unfair post ,remove it please


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    #51
    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    johnnyrotten wrote: »
    Unfair post ,remove it please

    cheeky maybe ...but in light of the facts not entirely inappropriate ...post stays.


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    #52
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    johnnyrotten wrote: »
    Unfair post ,remove it please
    It was badly worded, I explained my meaning better here

    Sorry if it offended you.


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    #53
    Maddison
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Maddison


    Just logged on and because im familiar with the area i read your thread. Amazing work!!!Well done!:D


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    #54
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,559 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    SteveC wrote: »
    It was badly worded, I explained my meaning better here

    Sorry if it offended you.

    but you are still saying that unionised 'state workers' are responsible for this?


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    #55
    Roddy23
    Registered Users Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Roddy23


    Nice work there Madsl.

    Don't know if you know the Rathmines area, but opposite St.Mary's they've erected a similar type structure right in front of the empire take away. I haven't used the junction there yet, since the sign went up, but i'd say its a disaster for traffic turning onto the Rathmines road. Disgraceful planning tbh.


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    #56
    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Roddy could you post up a pic if you get chance....

    I'll try and make it over tomorrow.


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    #57
    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    copacetic wrote: »
    but you are still saying that unionised 'state workers' are responsible for this?
    Can we maybe, just the once, have a boards thread that doesn't descend into a bickering match over a minor detail?

    SteveC has clarified his remark and apaologised ...that should be enough.


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    #58
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,559 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    peasant wrote: »
    Can we maybe, just the once, have a boards thread that doesn't descend into a bickering match over a minor detail?

    SteveC has clarified his remark and apaologised ...that should be enough.

    Who actually put the sign there hardly seems a minor detail. Surely it is the main issue? In SteveCs clarification he still says the same thing, that unionised state workers put it there.


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    #59
    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    It was Wallace Construction (I think) put it up they seem to have the contract for the contract works.

    Planners approved it (although the site map was a red dot on a map, very informative)


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    #60
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    copacetic, if it makes you happy, I fully retract my remark(s) and apologise, once again, if it offended anyone.
    As Peasant said, lets stay on topic and not spoil a great thread.

    Peasant, please feel free to delete my post and any quotes of it in an effort to stop this going OT.


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    #61
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    MadsL wrote: »
    It was Wallace Construction (I think) put it up they seem to have the contract for the contract works.

    Planners approved it (although the site map was a red dot on a map, very informative)

    Do you know if something like this is subject to the usual planning rigramole - i.e. commencement of works and completion certs.

    All of which have to be approved by someone in the planning office - which is ultimately the responsibility of the local council?

    Or have I got that totally wrong?


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