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TextSecure Android texting app

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  • 13-03-2014 1:16am
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    bothyhead
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭


    With all the media attention with Ed Snowden and various spy agencies, I'm surprised that there are only a couple of references on Boards to WhisperSystems' TextSecure Android app. It functions very like WhatsApp, but it automatically encrypts texts between two TextSecure users. It's also open source.

    The nice thing about it that it can also be used as a direct replacement for the standard SMS messaging app. If I text a mate who is not using TextSecure, the text will go out the SMS channel, but if I text a secure mate, it is automatically encrypted and goes out the data channel. It makes encryption easy as I don't have a decision to make, which I think is its killer feature.

    Encryption is pretty good: AES 128 in counter mode as well as forward secrecy.

    I believe that they are also working on an iPhone version. Best of all ... it's totally free :)


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    #2
    Khannie
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    I use it myself after a recommendation from a boardsie. Found it hard to convince even a techie friend of mine to move to it though. My wife has said she will.

    Even as a pure SMS app I think it's miles ahead of the default one.


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    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Khannie wrote: »
    I use it myself after a recommendation from a boardsie. Found it hard to convince even a techie friend of mine to move to it though. My wife has said she will.

    Even as a pure SMS app I think it's miles ahead of the default one.

    Downloading now.....


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    bothyhead
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭bothyhead


    I only came across it myself a while ago after hearing Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte recommend it on their Security Now podcast. And apparently Ed Snowden also gave it a thumbs up in his SxSW keynote address:
    "WhisperSystems and the Moxie Marlinspikes [lead developer] of the world are focusing on new user experience, new UIs and basically ways for us to interact with cryptographic tools."

    It has gained a rapid following in Germany in the past few days as a result of some published article. Hopefully something similar will trigger a mass download in Ireland ... if only for the fact that more of my contacts start using it.


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    #5
    hooplah
    Registered Users Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    I had this installed a while ago but got rid of it again - at that stage it wouldn't save draft texts. Is that still the case?


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    Khannie
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    bedlam wrote: »
    It will save the most recent unsent message per conversation.

    Confirmed. I had a draft yesterday. No issues.


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    hooplah
    Registered Users Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    Thanks folks, I've gone and installed it again. Looks good too.


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    bd0101
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭bd0101


    bothyhead wrote: »
    With all the media attention with Ed Snowden and various spy agencies, I'm surprised that there are only a couple of references on Boards to WhisperSystems' TextSecure Android app. It functions very like WhatsApp, but it automatically encrypts texts between two TextSecure users. It's also open source.

    The nice thing about it that it can also be used as a direct replacement for the standard SMS messaging app. If I text a mate who is not using TextSecure, the text will go out the SMS channel, but if I text a secure mate, it is automatically encrypted and goes out the data channel. It makes encryption easy as I don't have a decision to make, which I think is its killer feature.

    Encryption is pretty good: AES 128 in counter mode as well as forward secrecy.

    I believe that they are also working on an iPhone version. Best of all ... it's totally free :)

    Something worthy to note:...

    iPhones are keeping a log of all your words and create a dictionary (keyword log), that you can erase by going within settings (reset section). This can be used to compile frequently used keywords (or interesting ones...) that an iPhone user types. So, even when using a secure app, the OS is the one thing that can betray you(r trust).

    One more proof that One should NOT trust US-based companies...


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    RainyDay
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    How do you know if your contacts are using TextSecure or not? I got a voicemail notification text from Three, and it told me that it was an encrypted message, which seems unlikely?


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    Khannie
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    RainyDay wrote: »
    How do you know if your contacts are using TextSecure or not? I got a voicemail notification text from Three, and it told me that it was an encrypted message, which seems unlikely?

    Yeah, it sometimes makes mistakes about the status of the message.


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    notmymark
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭notmymark


    Ye what a great app. I downloaded it after hearing Steve Gibson recommend it. In the process of trying to get all my family and friends over to it...

    :mad: when will they learn


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    #12
    PrzemoF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    Info for cyanogenmod users from Dec 2013:

    "Koush announced that CyanogenMod would be seeing integrated, system-wide secure messaging integration with compatibility with TextSecure. For those unfamiliar, TextSecure is an open-source cross-platform (iOS and Android) client that encrypts your SMS messages both locally, and over the air when sending to other TextSecure users."

    http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/whisperpush-secure-messaging-integration

    It's in Settings->Privacy->WhisperPush on Cyanogenmod11


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    0rt
    Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭0rt


    been using it for about a year or so now..
    dead handy..


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    bothyhead
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭bothyhead


    RainyDay wrote: »
    How do you know if your contacts are using TextSecure or not? I got a voicemail notification text from Three, and it told me that it was an encrypted message, which seems unlikely?

    Just a note on this: in order for TextSecure to encrypt the message, both parties have to be using it. So, if your mate has it and you don't, then it will be sent as a regular, plaintext sms.


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    #15
    bothyhead
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭bothyhead


    notmymark wrote: »
    Ye what a great app. I downloaded it after hearing Steve Gibson recommend it. In the process of trying to get all my family and friends over to it...

    :mad: when will they learn

    Most people I recommend it to simply shrug their shoulders and say that they have nothing to hide. I have nothing to hide either, but I still value my privacy.


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    #16
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    0rt wrote: »
    been using it for about a year or so now..
    dead handy..

    HOw many of your contacts use it also?


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    Khannie
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    RainyDay wrote: »
    HOw many of your contacts use it also?

    Only two of mine and I had to ask both to install it. I still think it's a good SMS app, so a worthwhile install.


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    #18
    Mr Reese
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 ✭Mr Reese


    Hi guys,

    If someone sends you an MMS when you're using this, it says,
    Error connecting to MMS Provider

    And then if you go back to the default txt app or Hangouts their's no sign that you even got an MMS as it doesn't get imported back in for some reason.

    How do you get by this? I was in in the MMS settings in the app and I see the MMSC URL (Required) setting but a google isin't finding the Info I'd need to fill this in for the Network I'm on.

    Or does the other person HAVE to be using TextSecure?


    Any other text app worth trying if their's no way around this?


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    #19
    Mr Reese
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 ✭Mr Reese


    bedlam wrote: »
    MMS is a bit hit and miss, report the issue here



    Surespot is quite good and cross platform but does not do sms.
    Ahh, alot of messing.

    Might try Threema, maybe. Or God forbid Whatsapp.


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    #20
    Pat Mustard
    Registered Users Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Is this app heavy on juice?

    Recently I noticed that the battery settings in my phone indicated that this app had caused a bit of battery drain. There was quite a bit of text activity that day, so this may not necessarily mean anything, of itself.

    Thought I'd mention it here to see if anyone else noticed the same thing.


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    #21
    Khannie
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Haven't noticed that myself.


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    #22
    Mr Reese
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 ✭Mr Reese


    Developers need to go and get a Moto G and do something with this awful POS.

    Nothing works right with it.


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    #23
    Mr Reese
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 ✭Mr Reese


    bedlam wrote: »
    Let the developers know your issues rather than grumbling about it here where they are unlikely to read. They are usually very good about fixing / implementing features.

    Of course having said that, if you are experiencing this, you are out of luck unless you can convince Motorola to do something about it, which will be infinitely harder.
    Yup, that's one of the problems I was having with it. 3/4 more to go along with it...take a good while to report/write them out...I might. Refusing to send without a Data Connection was another, constant flickering screen when trying to send Txt to other phone that had removed TS. I'd need to reinstall it to remember...

    It's a mess with the Moto G though sums it up.

    Grand with my old Samsung Galaxy Ace though, their's been a few bugs now with different Apps I'd been using before I switched to the Moto.

    I didn't think Android varied so much on different Handsets...and this being Googles own phone aswell (at the time).


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    #24
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    Am I missing something, or is there a way to send a text to two (or more) people using Text Secure?


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    #25
    bothyhead
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭bothyhead


    RainyDay wrote: »
    Am I missing something, or is there a way to send a text to two (or more) people using Text Secure?

    You can create a group and add the two people to that. Then just sent the group a text. Create a group via bottom left menu on your Android device.


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    #26
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    bothyhead wrote: »
    You can create a group and add the two people to that. Then just sent the group a text. Create a group via bottom left menu on your Android device.

    A tad clunky for a one-off text to two people, no?


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    #27
    Khannie
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    RainyDay wrote: »
    A tad clunky for a one-off text to two people, no?

    On the face of it it sounds that way, but then I thought about viber and it's similar. It's a group chat to send the same message to multiple people.


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