Varadkar withholds €36m promised to CIE "in good conscience"

about time. Hold the money until they make some reforms.

Its one of the most inefficient public companies in Ireland.

Well done Leo.

Well done Leo. Absolutely right. Just throwing good money after bad otherwise.
CIE is supposed to be a transport company. Not a public works scheme for trade unionists.

dowlingm wrote: »

Was there a note from the Commission saying "exactly how is this not State Aid lads?"

I'd say public tansport has some exemption to those competion rules. Subvented in most/all other EU states as well to a greater or lessor extent. Just not as badly run as CIE is.

matt cooper book has some interesting facts on the "carry on" going on inside CIE.

Right on.

He has some neck going on about reforms and taxpayers money when none of the expenses the TD's get have not been touched.

I doubt very much that he would.

irishgeo wrote: »

matt cooper book has some interesting facts on the "carry on" going on inside CIE.

I don't work in CIE, I work in shipping, so thats out of the way.
Matt Cooper can have all the facts he likes, the public have interesting facts on the ''carry on'' on whats going on inside Dáil Eireann. So Leo won't pay CIE. Bravo! well working people will never take Leo or any other politican serious when the gravy train just keep rolling inside Dail Eireann, Leo can huff and puff but won't bring his own house down, as long as the scandalous set of allowances and expenses that where put in place by Charlie Mc Creevy away back in 2001, the likes of Healy Rea traveling up and down on his free pass and claiming expenses, or independent TDs claiming 41,000euro a year tax free, honest working people will never take Leo or his colleagues serious as long as their greedy snouts stay firmly in the trough and the gravy train keeps rolling down the tracks, until it hits the buffers, Leo can huff and puff but still won't derail the gravy train inside Dail Eireann.

Hilly Bill wrote: »

He has some neck going on about reforms and taxpayers money when none of the expenses the TD's get have not been touched.

true but it's not a valid reason to pay it anyway. The line has to be drawn somewhere and a start made. If this is it then great. Next is telling the HSE that they can't just keep disregarding theirs budgets totally and utterly and we might be getting somewhere.

It really is one of my pet hates, politicans taking the high moral ground while their own nests are well feathered, Leo really must take the voters as suckers.
Doesn't start and end with Leo, we have a totally crazy situation where a mad wild crazy ''socialist'' TD girl from North County Dublin gets into bed with a tax cheat politican wearing a pink shirt from Wexford, then these people pretend they are on the side of the people, you just couldnd write the script for that, Im getting my coat, going for a pint.

Any chance of commenting on what was said rather than more "Journal" type comments about the gravy train and the banks?

bobby23 wrote: »

Fact is loads of routes are not making money, only carry 3-10 people a trip after 8 o'clock.

I wonder (genuinely) why both Luas lines are relatively busy off-peak while Dublin Bus struggles to find any passengers. DBs last buses at night are like ghost buses but both Luas lines are busy, not only at 11:30 when DB have gone home but right through to 12:30.

foggy_lad wrote: »

Were they looking for a bit extra that they could use around the Christmas for bonuses?

Can we lay off the flippancy?

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delad wrote: »

thats because its free to use the luas, anyone can hop on and hop off, so until turnstiles are installed at luas stops then the problem of skangers using it for free will continue

Late night trains always have a heavy security and ticket checking presence and I've never seem any problems or people being thrown off.

delad wrote: »

trains or trams?

Trams.

have turnstiles which keep out the scum.

They are great once the gate next to them isn't open.....

In regard to security and ticket inspectors on the Luas at night, I have used it a lot over the last few weeks (Red Line) and have had my ticket checked most nights. Must also say I felt safe on it to, the first time in a while. Does anyone else think the anti social behavior has calmed down a little?

Also whats the story with gardi going around with ticket checkers at times>

Stheno wrote: »

Having read this thread if they got rid of the likes of Bobby they wouldn't need the 30 odd million

Dublin Bus driver advocating fare evasion, not giving a **** as he still gets "payed the same" not counting fares, not giving refund receipts etc

broken record much?
give it a rest will ya, he's being honest at what he does, there's no need to drag it all over the forum.