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Which Laptop is better ?

  • 01-10-2012 6:06pm
    #1
    Jumboman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭


    Which of these is a better laptop ?

    Also does anyone know who makes better screens Sony or Samsung ?

    The main difference between the 2 laptops from what I can see is size of the harddrives and the fact that the samsung laptop doesnt come with a full HD screen.

    Can anyone really tell the difference between HD 1600x900 vs 1920x1080 Full HD screen on a laptop ?






    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-17-3-inch-Blu-ray-Windows-Premium/dp/tech-data/B00863RI8A/ref=de_a_smtd

    Price £729.94
    Samsung RF711 17.3-inch Laptop (Black) (Intel Core i7 2670QM 2.2GHz, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Blu-ray, LAN, WLAN, BT, Webcam, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit)


    Technical Details


    Model Name: RF711
    Part Number: NP-RF711-S08UK
    Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
    Processor: Intel Core i7-2670QM (6M Cache, 2.20 GHz)
    Main Chipset: Intel HM65
    System Memory: 8 Gb
    Memory Slot: 2 x SODIMM
    Display: LCD 17.3 inch LED HD+
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
    Graphics Memory: 1 Gb DDR3
    HDD: 1 Tb
    ODD: Blu-Ray
    Modem: No
    Wired Ethernet LAN: 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN
    Wireless LAN: 802.11bgn
    Bluetooth: Bluetooth v3.0 High Speed
    Sound: HD (High Definition) Audio
    Sound Effect: SRS Premium Sound Effect, Mic Noise Suppression
    Speaker: 3 W Stereo Speaker (1.5 W x 2)
    Integrated Camera: 1.3 MP HD Camera
    I/O Ports: VGA, HDMI, Headphone-out, Mic-in, Internal Mic, 2 x USB 2.0, 2 x USB 3.0 (chargeable USB included), 4-in-1 Card Reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC), RJ45, DC-in
    Security: Norton Internet Security (60 day free), BIOS Boot Up Password, Kensington Lock Port, Samsung Recovery Solution
    AC Adapter: 90 Watt
    Battery: Li-Ion, 6 cell, 5200 mAh
    Dimensions (WxDxH): 415.8 x 276.1 x 32.3 - 37.9 mm
    Weight: 2.9 Kg
    Warranty: International Warranty
    Software-Safety: Samsung Recovery Solution, Samsung Support Center, Norton Internet Security (free 60-day trial), HDD Password
    Software-Utility: Samsung Fast Start, Easy Speedup Manager, Easy Network Manager, Battery Life Extender, Easy Display Manager, Samsung Update Plus, Sleep-and-Charge USB, Easy File Share, Easy Content Share, Microsoft Office 2010 Starter
    Software-Multimedia: CyberLink YouCam, Game Console





    http://www.sony.ie/product/vaio-e-series/sve1711x1e

    Price €1,149.00 Incl Vat



    Sony Vaio SVE1711X1E

    Operating System

    Operating System
    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit with Service Pack 1


    Architecture

    Platform
    3rd generation Intel® Core™ i7 processor
    Chipset
    Intel® HM76 Express Chipset


    CPU

    Processor Name
    Intel® Core™ i7-3612QM Processor
    Power and Performance
    with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
    Processor Speed (GHz)
    2.10 with Turbo Boost up to 3.10
    L3 Cache (MB)
    6
    Number of Cores
    4


    Memory

    Memory Size (GB)
    8
    Memory Type
    PC3-12800
    Memory Specification
    DDR3 SDRAM
    Memory Speed (MHz)
    1600
    Memory Composition
    4 GB (SO-DIMM) x 2
    Max. Supported Memory (GB)
    8


    Colour

    Cover Colour
    Black


    Drives

    Hard Drive Type
    Serial ATA
    Hard Drive Capacity (GB)
    750
    Optical Drive Type
    Blu-ray Disc™ ROM Drive with DVD SuperMulti
    Read
    CD 24x, CD-R 24x, CD-RW 24x, DVD 8x, DVD-R DL 6x, DVD-R 8x, DVD-RW 8x, DVD+R DL 6x, DVD+R 8x, DVD+RW 8x, DVD-RAM 5x, BD-ROM 6x, BD-R 6x, BD-R DL 4x, BD-RE 4x, BD-RE DL 4x
    Write
    CD-R 24x, CD-RW 10x, DVD-R DL 6x, DVD-R 8x, DVD-RW 6x, DVD+R DL 6x, DVD+R 8x, DVD+RW 8x, DVD-RAM 5x
    Hard Drive Speed (rpm)
    5400


    Screen

    Screen Type
    VAIO Display Plus
    Diagonal Size (cm)
    43.8
    Diagonal Size (in)
    17.3
    Resolution Name
    Full HD
    Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Aspect Ratio
    Wide (16:9)
    Max Resolution External Display
    1920 x 1200


    Graphics

    Graphic Card Name
    AMD Radeon™ HD 7650M
    Video RAM memory size
    2 GB
    Total Graphics Memory
    -
    Comments
    -


    Interfaces

    USB Port(s)
    USB 2.0 (Type A Connector) x 3, USB 3.0 with USB charging (Type A Connector) x 1
    i.Link 4-pin (IEEE1394)
    No
    Memory Stick™ Slot(s)
    Memory Stick Duo slot x 1, SD memory card slot x 1
    Memory Stick™ Function(s)
    Memory Stick PRO compatible, Not support for copyright protection
    Microphone Jack
    Stereo, Mini Jack x1
    Headphone Jack
    Stereo, Mini Jack x1
    Optical Audio Out (SPDIF)
    No
    SD Card Slot
    SDHC, SDXC compatible, Not support for copyright protection
    HDMI Output
    Yes
    VGA Output
    Mini D-Sub 15 pin x1


    Network Connectivity

    Ethernet (RJ-45 Direct Port)
    Yes
    Ethernet Type
    1000BASE-T/100BASE-TX/10BASE-T x1
    Wireless LAN
    Yes
    Wireless LAN Type
    IEEE 802.11b/g/n
    Wireless LAN Max. Date Rate (Mbps)
    150 (RX) / 150 (TX)
    Bluetooth
    Yes
    Bluetooth Version
    Bluetooth® standard Ver. 4.0 + HS
    Bluetooth Range (m)
    max. 10
    Bluetooth Max. Data Rate (Mbps)
    24


    Security

    HDD Shock Protection
    Yes


    Audio

    Built-in Speakers
    Internal, Stereo speakers
    Built-in Microphone
    Internal, Monaural microphone
    Dolby Codec
    -
    xLOUD™
    Yes
    S-Force™ Front Surround 3D
    No


    Built-in Camera

    Specification
    HD Web Camera powered by "Exmor for PC"
    Effective Pixels
    1280 x 1024
    Image Sensor (Mega Pixels)
    1.31


    Keyboard

    Stroke (mm)
    1.7
    Key Pitch (mm)
    19.05
    Numeric Keypad
    Yes
    Touch Pad
    Yes (Gesture supported)
    Pointing Stick
    No
    BackLit
    Yes


    Other Features

    Instant On
    -
    Special Buttons
    Assist Button, WEB Button, VAIO Button, Wireless switch
    Auto Luminance Control
    -
    Kensigton Lock
    Yes


    Software

    Solution Portal
    VAIO Gate
    Photo/Video
    PlayMemories Home
    Multimedia
    Media Gallery
    Support
    VAIO Care
    Utilities
    VAIO Transfer Support, VAIO Update, VAIO Smart network
    Office Application
    Office 2010 preloaded – buy Office 2010 product key for full activation, Windows Live Essentials 2011, Adobe® Reader® 10
    Security & Backup
    McAfee Internet Security 30 day subscription, McAfee Online Backup 30 day subscription
    SONY Tools
    Imagination™ Studio VAIO Edition, Remote Keyboard, Remote Play with PlayStation® 3
    Internet
    Internet Explorer® 9


    Supplied Accesories

    AC Adapter
    VGP-AC19V31
    Power Cord
    Yes
    Documentation Pack
    Yes
    Mouse
    -
    Keyboard Skin
    -
    VAIO International Repair Service Guide
    Yes
    3D Active Shutter Glasses
    No


    Dimensions

    Depth Main Unit (mm)
    278.0
    Height Main Unit (mm)
    27.1 - 37.8
    Width Main Unit (mm)
    408.7
    Weight with Supplied Battery (kg)
    3,2


    Primary Battery

    Model Name
    VGP-BPS26A
    Weight (g)
    330
    Battery Type
    Lithium ion battery
    Battery Life time (hours)
    -
    Battery Charging time (hours)
    -
    Battery Life Disclaimer
    Actual battery life will vary depending on your specific hardware and software configurations. Benchmark: MobileMark 2007


Comments

  • #2
    Torqay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    Jumboman wrote: »
    Can anyone really tell the difference between HD 1600x900 vs 1920 x 1080 Full HD screen on a laptop ?

    Absolutely. ;)
    Jumboman wrote: »
    Which of these is a better laptop ?

    The Sony of course, 3rd generation Core i7, slightly faster GPU (though neither is really suitable for gaming if that's what you have in mind) and indeed the better display. Is it worth 420 yoyos more? Absolutely not.

    Edit, just spotted the price for the Samsung is in Sterling, so the difference is only ~ €240, still quite substantial. You might get a better machine cheaper elsewhere.


  • #3
    Jumboman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    Torqay wrote: »

    Edit, just spotted the price for the Samsung is in Sterling, so the difference is only ~ €240, still quite substantial. You might get a better machine cheaper elsewhere.

    Just checked amazon the price is EUR 977,25 when you add in the Irish tax rate.

    The Sony of course, 3rd generation Core i7, slightly faster GPU (though neither is really suitable for gaming if that's what you have in mind) and indeed the better display

    What puts me off the Sony is that it doesnt have a terabyte harddrive.


  • #4
    Torqay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    Jumboman wrote: »
    What puts me off the Sony is that it doesnt have a terabyte harddrive.

    Easily upgraded with an aftermarket replacement. Or fit a solid state disk (seen a Kingston 128 GB for 65 quid on Amazon) and use the old HDD in an enclosure as external storage.

    Or have a look at the Voyager II:

    Full HD display
    Core i7 3610QM (even faster than the 3612QM)
    GT 630M (better than the HD 7650M)
    8GB RAM
    1 TB HDD

    Win7 HP 64-bit (incl. OS installation disk)
    3 yrs warranty

    £666 or €833 (delivery not included)

    Also has a 2nd HDD bay if you want to add a SSD (they currently have a 128 GB SSD on special offer) or another 1 TB HDD. ;)

    P.S. I don't think VAT will be applied on sales within the EU.


  • #5
    Torqay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    Or the Optimus IV, with the same configuration as above plus a Bluray combo drive it will cost £872 or €1.091. Still cheaper than the SONY and it comes with a GTX 660M.


  • #6
    Jumboman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    Torqay wrote: »
    Easily upgraded with an aftermarket replacement. Or fit a solid state disk (seen a Kingston 128 GB for 65 quid on Amazon) and use the old HDD in an enclosure as external storage.

    Or have a look at the Voyager II:

    Full HD display
    Core i7 3610QM (even faster than the 3612QM)
    GT 630M (better than the HD 7650M)
    8GB RAM
    1 TB HDD

    Win7 HP 64-bit (incl. OS installtion disk)
    3 yrs warranty

    £666 or €833 (delivery not included)

    Also has a 2nd HDD bay if you want to add a SSD (they currently have a 128 GB SSD on special offer) or another 1 TB HDD. ;)

    P.S. I don't think VAT will be applied on sales within the EU.


    Thanks for the link.

    Is a voyager a good brand ?
    P.S. I don't think VAT will be applied on sales within the EU.

    I bought stuff from amazon UK before and they added in the Irish vat rate.


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  • #7
    Torqay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    PC Specialist is reseller for Clevo laptops in the UK. No-frills laptops with excellent performance, you'll get exactly what you pay for and a decent warranty.

    Here is a review for the W150ER, which is the 15" version of the Optimus IV.


  • #8
    Jumboman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    Torqay wrote: »
    PC Specialist is reseller for Clevo laptops in the UK. No-frills laptops with excellent performance, you'll get exactly what you pay for and a decent warranty.

    Here is a review for the W150ER, which is the 15" version of the Optimus IV.

    What is the quality of there screens like ? to me not having a high quality screen is a deal breaker.


  • #9
    Torqay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    Haven't heard anything negative but you can choose a full HD display from AU Optronics with both models, which is even better.

    Look up reviews for Sager or Schenker laptops, their systems are based on the same barebones provided by Clevo.


  • #10
    Media999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭Media999


    Go for a Custom laptop from PCspecialist.co.uk Their screens are made by LG. 1080p on a 15" superb quality. Also far better spec and easy to upgrade.

    Current screen is LG. They change and improve them often so old reviews might not tell the full story. Go to their forums and look for recent reviews.


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