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Big news today for the reserves

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  • #52
    RUNNER 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    KwackerJack wrote: »
    I currently have a steady job in credit control so I am Ok as far as employment goes for the foreseeable future!

    My long term goal is to join the force full time hence the course choice.

    I'll just have to be a nervous wreck till I get the final word :-(


    I wouldn't worry about it man . when it happens it happens and it will and ul be fine.


  • #53
    tg123
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭tg123


    Straight from the Commissioner Looking good for the Reserve

    As part of our internal Garda survey, we surveyed all members of An Garda Síochána including the Garda Reserve. As Deputy Collins has said, it should absolutely be put on record that the Garda Reserve members are indicative of and the epitome of volunteerism in Irish society. They are people who come and give their own time, for very little remuneration, wanting to give something back to the communities in which they live and work. They are a very welcome asset to An Garda Síochána. We had a number of specific seminars for the Garda Reserve and the feedback we received and heard was exactly what Deputy Collins has said - that some members of the Garda Reserve perceived they did not have a particular point of contact where their voices could be heard. We are appointing a superintendent in charge of the Garda Reserve who will have responsibility for co-ordinating the Garda Reserve itself and who will also address any issues the reserves may want to bring to their attention. Each of the regional assistant commissioners will also hold a quarterly seminar with the reserves.
    Regarding vision, we have identified a number of powers we will expand to the Garda Reserve. At the moment we are in the final stages of putting the necessary structures and training in place to ensure this can be implemented. The Garda reserves come from a wide range of communities and have a lot of skills. Many reserves are professional people and can bring a lot of skills to various aspects of the Garda organisation. We are exploring that at the moment to see where people could employ these skills to benefit them and the organisation. The Deputy also mentioned looking at a reserve stream. We are talking to the Public Appointments Service at the moment and exploring what options are available regarding that.


  • #54
    RUNNER 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    tg123 wrote: »
    Straight from the Commissioner Looking good for the Reserve

    As part of our internal Garda survey, we surveyed all members of An Garda Síochána including the Garda Reserve. As Deputy Collins has said, it should absolutely be put on record that the Garda Reserve members are indicative of and the epitome of volunteerism in Irish society. They are people who come and give their own time, for very little remuneration, wanting to give something back to the communities in which they live and work. They are a very welcome asset to An Garda Síochána. We had a number of specific seminars for the Garda Reserve and the feedback we received and heard was exactly what Deputy Collins has said - that some members of the Garda Reserve perceived they did not have a particular point of contact where their voices could be heard. We are appointing a superintendent in charge of the Garda Reserve who will have responsibility for co-ordinating the Garda Reserve itself and who will also address any issues the reserves may want to bring to their attention. Each of the regional assistant commissioners will also hold a quarterly seminar with the reserves.
    Regarding vision, we have identified a number of powers we will expand to the Garda Reserve. At the moment we are in the final stages of putting the necessary structures and training in place to ensure this can be implemented. The Garda reserves come from a wide range of communities and have a lot of skills. Many reserves are professional people and can bring a lot of skills to various aspects of the Garda organisation. We are exploring that at the moment to see where people could employ these skills to benefit them and the organisation. The Deputy also mentioned looking at a reserve stream. We are talking to the Public Appointments Service at the moment and exploring what options are available regarding that.

    Very good


  • #55
    Copaholic
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Copaholic


    Yes this is excellent news and about time that senior management of AGS commenced work on creating an internal stream for reserves but better late than never.
    In addition im wondering would the 35 year age limit still apply and If any weighting would be given to number of years service in reserves.
    All in all this is a good and progressive move and let hope that AGS will see this through swiftly and with success.


  • #56
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    I'd imagine they'd have a certain amount of reserves recruited every campaign? or somthing like that.

    Don't think they'd ever be able to exclusively recruit fro the reserves and leave the public campaigns?


  • #57
    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    carzony wrote: »
    I'd imagine they'd have a certain amount of reserves recruited every campaign? or somthing like that.

    Don't think they'd ever be able to exclusively recruit fro the reserves and leave the public campaigns?

    Would depend on the first stream they do. If this trials okay then I would imagine they will start to pull more from the stream.

    Its good news all the same to have a head over the Reserves. Could be a chance for a super to go down in history for whatever changed they make be it good or bad. It needs to be shaped at this stage, it looks like it did when it started in 2005.


  • #58
    RUNNER 1
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    They should make like the army and RDF , just take a hand full from the Reserve ,but still keep the public intakes .


  • #59
    testicle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    They should make like the army and RDF , just take a hand full from the Reserve ,but still keep the public intakes .

    The army doesn't recruit from the RDF, handful or otherwise....


  • #60
    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    testicle wrote: »
    The army doesn't recruit from the RDF, handful or otherwise....

    Think they ment each respective reserve for each organisation.


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  • #61
    RUNNER 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    testicle wrote: »
    The army doesn't recruit from the RDF, handful or otherwise....


    They dont ? I was sure they did . my bad .


  • #62
    Copaholic
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Copaholic


    Id say that the public campaigns will continue but that the reserves will have their own internal stream which would see a steady amount of reserves being recruited with each intake. This internal stream is both positive and constructive as people who would like to become full timers would gain excellent experience while reserves and see that their contribution is better recognised by senior management by having a more defined pathway that feeds directly into recruitment via the this internal stream. The current set up gives no recognition or weighting to a reserve in the stages of selection (aptitudes) etc and has left significant and understandable bad taste with reserves.
    An internal stream for reserves should have been part of this current campaign as god knows AGS had long enough to think about it while recruitment ceased while at the same time a significant report was compiled which did still not come up with the concept of an internal stream for reserves. One does wonder what these report committees actually do that's of any constructive use while they use up huge amounts of public money.
    This internal stream (assuming it happens) will shine a more positive light on the role and contribution of reserves and lead to a more constructive process and does show that the new commissioner has some worthwhile substance and willingness to bring about some well overdue and positive change in AGS.


  • #63
    Canyon86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    Copaholic wrote: »
    Id say that the public campaigns will continue but that the reserves will have their own internal stream which would see a steady amount of reserves being recruited with each intake. This internal stream is both positive and constructive as people who would like to become full timers would gain excellent experience while reserves and see that their contribution is better recognised by senior management by having a pathway the to feed directly into recruitment via the this internal stream. The current set up gives no recognition or weighting to a reserve in the stages of selection (aptitudes) etc and has left significant bad taste with reserves. This internal stream (assuming it happens) will shine a more positive light on the role and contribution of reserves and lead to a more constructive process.

    100% agree, excellent point, ideally this would be implemented going forward,
    here s hoping things are changing:)


  • #64
    RUNNER 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    Canyon86 wrote: »
    100% agree, excellent point, ideally this would be implemented going forward,
    here s hoping things are changing:)

    I hope they get the ball rolling on a medical/class in the next couple months.

    Canyon86 do u Eva regret not accepting an offer from the GR ?


  • #65
    Canyon86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    I hope they get the ball rolling on a medical/class in the next couple months.

    Canyon86 do u Eva regret not accepting an offer from the GR ?

    Hi Runner,

    no I dont, I wouldnt be able to devote 100% of my time to it due to work commitments, I spend a lot of time abroad with my job etc,

    It would be selfish of me to accept a place I could not dedicate to,

    When I originally applied in 2014 I was working in a job based in my home place,

    Hope you get sorted tho mate :)


  • #66
    RUNNER 1
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    Ahhh u were better off so. I hope so to man, herd nothing yet tho .


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  • #67
    KwackerJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    I hope they get the ball rolling on a medical/class in the next couple months.

    Canyon86 do u Eva regret not accepting an offer from the GR ?

    With the new of recruitment they should move things along quicker. My BG checks went from being frozen to being set for final decision with in the space of a month so something is happening.


  • #68
    RUNNER 1
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    Good to hear man , my checks are ment to be done , but I had to apply for an educational exemption in maths so god knows how long that will take . say they have a good 60 r 70 waiting on medicals if not more.
    Any1 know anything about educational exemptions?


  • #69
    KwackerJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    Good to hear man , my checks are ment to be done , but I had to apply for an educational exemption in maths so god knows how long that will take . say they have a good 60 r 70 waiting on medicals if not more.
    Any1 know anything about educational exemptions?


    I think the education requirements don't apply to the reserves like they do the full time?


  • #70
    RUNNER 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    No they do 100% I had to fill out form coz I was a grade behind in maths . hopefully doesn't take years like the BR form


  • #71
    KwackerJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    No they do 100% I had to fill out form coz I was a grade behind in maths . hopefully doesn't take years like the BR form


    The Garda Commissioner may exempt a person from meeting these requirements if satisfied that the person has personal attributes which otherwise render him or her suitable to be admitted as a reserve trainee. (This only occurs in exceptional circumstances).


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  • #72
    RUNNER 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    Fingers crossed she let's me away with it , iv herd of people getting these exemptions and doing OK.


  • #73
    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    Fingers crossed she let's me away with it , iv herd of people getting these exemptions and doing OK.

    I got one. Not because I am stupid but because back when I was 16/17 I didn't realise the importance of the LC and never really cared like I do now. I should really sit the LC again but with work its tuff to try attend classes etc.. Plus I need my own certs for work as it is.

    I would have done much better if the education system had of been continuous assessment like it was in college. Passed everything in there no problems.


  • #74
    RUNNER 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    Tallclass thanks for the reply pal, how long were u waiting to find out? Please say it doesn't take ages, haha, like I have the full LC just not maths really need to resit the maths myself.


  • #75
    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Not long. Just make sure you take your time filling out the exemption. The commissioner has to read and sign it. So up to her really I would think. Best of luck with.


  • #76
    RUNNER 1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    TallGlass wrote:
    Not long. Just make sure you take your time filling out the exemption. The commissioner has to read and sign it. So up to her really I would think. Best of luck with.


    Honestly thanks pal , I did take my time then I went back and found like 4 spelling mistakes ,I was like what a Muppet ,but sure here will see how it goes .I have abit of charity work done and some good work exp so let hope that enough


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