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N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    jd wrote: »
    Report in today's Wexford people that contracts still not signed and the construction will not start until very late 2015, or more likely 2016. They say construction on both projects should be finished by 2018. There is even a chance that the Enniscorthy scheme may start first. I'll link to the article when it is online later this week.
    Article on link now at
    http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/start-date-on-new-ross-and-enniscorthy-bypasses-delayed-31289478.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    CNLz_9EWIAAhZKW.jpg:large


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    That's not the proposes New Ross Bridge :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Other side of the planet, you can almost make out the crocs in the picture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Bards




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  • Registered Users Posts: 11 delaido


    Contract was awarded ages ago.... But not signed yet though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Bards


    delaido wrote: »
    Contract was awarded ages ago.... But not signed yet though.

    Preferred bidder status is what you mean, contract award means contract has been awarded to the preferred bidder.

    Loads of jobs on job sites for civil engineers in relation to this which would not be advertised unless contract were signed


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 delaido


    Definitely not signed yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    Wexford People today

    Wexford Co Co Roads department: All preliminary work complete, contracts should be signed first or second week of October, construction to start November.
    All nice and visible for a Spring election!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Our Irish office is looking to recruit 4 number experienced Resident Engineers with Road/Traffic Management experience as part of our Authority’s site supervisory staff for the forthcoming “N25 New Ross Bypass PPP” scheme in Counties Wexford/Kilkenny in the South East of Ireland. The project will involve the construction of approximately 14.8km of National Route comprising of approximately 13.6km of Dual Carriageway and approximately 1.2km of Single Carriageway and associated works. It will also include an Extrados bridge crossing the River Barrow which will have two 230m main spans and a total length of about 900m.

    We are expecting the appointment of the Resident Engineers to take place in September/October 2015 for duration of approximately 40 months. This period will be spent on site in the vicinity of New Ross.

    The recruiting process is underway again :

    https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGWebHost/jobdetails.aspx?jobId=993770&partnerid=25141&siteid=5169


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    I take it when they refer to Dual Carriageway they mean Type 2 (or 2+2)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I take it when they refer to Dual Carriageway they mean Type 2 (or 2+2)?

    Both. 4km T1, 9.6km T2.

    http://www.wexford.ie/largefiles/EIS/Vol1/EIS.pdf

    Bridge and approaches T1 it seems which makes sense, reducing the risk of huge costs for any future upgrade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    That's great. It would be nice if the HDQC part was given a speed limit of 120 km/h and re-classified as motorway, though I suppose for the sake of 4 km the higher speed limit will result in next to no time saving. The Waterford City bypass most certainly should be upgraded to motorway and given a proper speed limit, I know TII (formerly the NRA) aren't fans of short stretches of motorway but from a planning perspective it makes far more sense, especially given the Irish inability to plan anything, plus the higher speed limit would be good as well from a time saving point of view.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    That's great. I take it when they eventually get around to doing the end of the Waterford bypass to the start of this they will make it a HQDC. Hopefully when that sees the light of day they will have the good sense to re-classify the HQDC part of the New Ross bypass to West Waterford (where the existing Waterford bypass ends) as motorway. It's absolutely crazy that the Waterford City bypass has a speed limit of only 100 km/h.
    This is the N25 Waterford-Glenmore Scheme, which is planned as HQDC/Type 1 Dual Carriageway. Surely Kilmeaden - New Ross will then be redesignated M, similarly with the N22 in Cork when Macroom-Ovens is done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    marno21 wrote: »
    This is the N25 Waterford-Glenmore Scheme, which is planned as HQDC/Type 1 Dual Carriageway. Surely Kilmeaden - New Ross will then be redesignated M, similarly with the N22 in Cork when Macroom-Ovens is done

    Yeah, hopefully that will be the case. Waterford-Glenmore should be a really short scheme, probably only 8 km long so it shouldn't be too expensive for them to do. But once that's done then they should definitely make all that part of the N25 motorway, there will be about 30 km of continuous HDQC or so by that stage, so that definitely deserves upgrading to motorway. 120 km/h running would shave another three minutes (compared to 100 km/h) on that eventual stretch of road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,756 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Surely Kilmeaden - New Ross will then be redesignated M

    Unless the New Ross bypass is all Type 1 you can't upgrade it with spending more money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Unless the New Ross bypass is all Type 1 you can't upgrade it with spending more money.

    Parts of the M50 have no hard shoulders and are not hqdc; where there's a will theres a way.
    I mean the road over the Suir bridge is already a motorway, just not a Motorway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    Article online in Wexford People today

    http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/november-start-date-for-bypasses-31570145.html
    Director of Services with Wexford County Council's Roads Department, Eamonn Hore told this newspaper that the contracts will be signed in the first or second week of October and work will begin shortly afterwards.

    Mr Hore said: 'All preliminary works are completed and work should start in November. The timeline has gone from vague to definite and the contracts should be signed now in the first or second week of October. All court and property issues have been finalised. There is nothing remaining to be done apart from signing the contracts.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    In this week's People again.
    THE New Ross and Enniscorthy bypasses which have been included in the government’s newly-announced €27 million capital plan for the next six years will be completed by mid-2018.
    Cllr George Lawlor said both projects would start before the end of the year following months of delays.
    ".. what appeared to be a minor issue with regard to a foreshore license involved a lot of individuals at the highest level to get it done, including the Attorney General. "


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    Director of Services with Wexford County Council's Roads Department, Eamonn Hore told this newspaper that the contracts will be signed in the first or second week of October and work will begin shortly afterwards.

    Are we considering the current week as the second week of October or still the first?

    Just asking ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Apparently there will be a sod turning a la what was done with the M11 on Friday in about six weeks' time, according to that guy who works for Brendan Howlin. Another box ticked for the Wexford electorate in time for the next election. Good news either way that it's finally going to happen soon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Apparently there will be a sod turning a la what was done with the M11 on Friday in about six weeks' time, according to that guy who works for Brendan Howlin. Another box ticked for the Wexford electorate in time for the next election. Good news either way that it's finally going to happen soon!

    Think the sod that was turned last Friday was for the Enniscorthy bypass


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭VR6


    Think the sod that was turned last Friday was for the Enniscorthy bypass


    Yes and work is not actually scheduled to begin till January.

    At this rate they will announce the opening ceremony a year before the project is finished !!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    VR6 wrote: »
    Yes and work is not actually scheduled to begin till January.

    At this rate they will announce the opening ceremony a year before the project is finished !!!

    How about vegetation clearing or topsoil removal? Won't anything start earlier? They could do that while they finalize the design details for bridges and other bits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Mellifera


    They will no doubt start some works but a lot of it tends to be seasonally affected as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Here are some facts and information about the New Ross Bypass:
    • The project was approved by An Bord Pleanála back in December of 2008.
    • The project will cost roughly €217m.
    • An estimated 300 jobs will be created throughout the course of its construction.
    • Work on the project is expected to begin at the end of 2015 / early 2016.
    • The bypass is expected to be completed by 2018.
    • The new bridge will be 900 metres in length, making it Ireland’s longest bridge (in comparison, the bridge in Wexford Town is 590 metres in length).

    Read more here :

    http://wexfordhub.com/new-ross-bypass/


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 delaido


    I thought the contracts were meant to be signed by now!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    delaido wrote: »
    I thought the contracts were meant to be signed by now!

    I thought they were signed a month ago?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    That was n11 enniscorthy by pass, these were separated out to 2 PPPs


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  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    jd wrote: »
    That was n11 enniscorthy by pass, these were separated out to 2 PPPs

    True. But there were also rumours about imminent signing of the New Ross bypass contract as the shore licence issue was seemingly resolved.

    So, what's happening now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 delaido


    News of contract signing gone very quiet....Me feels there's something up!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭josip


    delaido wrote: »
    News of contract signing gone very quiet....Me feels there's something up!!!

    They went ahead with the Enniscorthy signing when there was a possibility of a November general election.
    Now that the election won't happen until next year, they need to keep the New Ross contract signing until next spring in order to have a timely feel good factor in Brendan's constituency.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    josip wrote: »
    They went ahead with the Enniscorthy signing when there was a possibility of a November general election.
    Now that the election won't happen until next year, they need to keep the New Ross contract signing until next spring in order to have a timely feel good factor in Brendan's constituency.

    But I thought Labour put the Nation before the Party?

    Isn't that why it's in such trouble now? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    I made an enquiry, if there are no more hitches it should be December 14th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭josip


    jd wrote: »
    I made an enquiry, if there are no more hitches it should be December 14th

    Now where have we heard that before? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    josip wrote: »
    Now where have we heard that before? :)

    Same source as this, which was correct re N11 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭Dr_Bill


    No news update on the EIB website and the press seem all quiet too, I'm guessing the contract won't be signed until some stage in the New Year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    The last update was yesterday when it was announced that BAM have been awarded a contract for 4km of road in the Hague .

    It mentioned that the New Ross bypass has yet to be finalised :

    http://www.worldhighways.com/categories/auctions-equipment-supply-servicing-finance/news/bam-wins-motorway-deals-in-the-hague-and-munich/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭josip


    They even quoted jd in that article :D
    Irish media reports have said finalisation of the deal is imminent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    josip wrote: »
    They even quoted jd in that article :D
    Ha Ha :).
    Howlin was down in Wexford Town where some schools PPP was being turned.

    Asked and got this
    "Nearly there..I'll double check. It's actually now being given the once over for due diligence by Standard & Poors."


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11 delaido


    Not looking like contracts will be signed now till the new year!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Surprise that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Mellifera


    delaido wrote: »
    Not looking like contracts will be signed now till the new year!!

    Any update on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Mellifera wrote: »
    Any update on this?

    I made an enquiry and my source told me that it will definitely be before 8th of April.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    josip wrote: »
    I made an enquiry and my source told me that it will definitely be before 8th of April.

    Contract signing or start of construction?

    Oh right...I just clicked on your source!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    Something on this in the Wexford People - not online yet

    THE latest date for the signing of the contract for the New Ross bypass has been mooted for late January. Mandatory 'standstill letters' notifying the award of the PPP contract to Barn Iridium, were issued on December 18. County Manager Tom Enright said subject to the closeout of the procurement standstill period, it is anticipated that the contract will be signed in the second half of January..Cllr Martin Murphy expressed concern that six of the 91 land-owners had not settled to date.I had assumed it would be totally complete by now,' he said, Director of Services for Roads Eamonn Hore said the bypass will go ahead whether the cases are settled or not..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    I've been told signing etc is Monday..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    jd wrote: »
    I've been told signing etc is Monday..

    OK...but which Monday? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    The day before the election is called ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Mellifera


    Or today?


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