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IEC 2014 Stage 2 Thread - All Stage 2 questions here!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 ballybow


    Im in the same boat :( found this on the CIC website, which suggests if the CAL is expired thats it but you can get money back.

    [My IEC work permit application was refused because I did not provide a document. What should I do?

    If your IEC Conditional Acceptance Letter is still valid, reapply for a work permit with the correct documentation. You will not have to pay more fees.

    If your IEC Conditional Acceptance Letter has expired, you will have to restart the IEC application process by submitting a new application through your Kompass account. You will have to pay the participation fees again. You will be reimbursed for not using your first Conditional Acceptance Letter.]


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭SpaceCowb0y


    ballybow wrote: »
    Im in the same boat :( found this on the CIC website, which suggests if the CAL is expired thats it but you can get money back.

    [My IEC work permit application was refused because I did not provide a document. What should I do?

    If your IEC Conditional Acceptance Letter is still valid, reapply for a work permit with the correct documentation. You will not have to pay more fees.

    If your IEC Conditional Acceptance Letter has expired, you will have to restart the IEC application process by submitting a new application through your Kompass account. You will have to pay the participation fees again. You will be reimbursed for not using your first Conditional Acceptance Letter.]

    So obviously it's too late to restart the IEC process now until next year so i guess i'll just have to withdraw the application via the kompass website and hope i get my money back?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 southstand


    Hi lads, I completed my application in june but a friend of mine who is completing his now was asking about the family info form and if you print and sign it. I did'nt do this so told him not to, but after the form is filled in there is no validate section at the bottom and when you go to upload it it says validation error, has anyone experienced this? has the process changed since I done it?
    Any help appreciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 ballybow


    So obviously it's too late to restart the IEC process now until next year so i guess i'll just have to withdraw the application via the kompass website and hope i get my money back?

    Yea thats what im gona do, I might re-apply anyway might get lucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Kevwoody


    Submitted all my documents and cal to cic nearly two weeks ago, got an email a day later to say account updated, but nothing since. It has to be the worst thing to wait on, it's the not knowing how long it'll take that annoys me!

    What's the longest I can expect it to take? I'm going on the young professional visa, as I've secured a job with a Canadian company, and they are emailing me every week to see if I can fly or not.

    It's so frustrating reading comments here where people are getting their poe's, and not travelling for another 6 or more months!


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How do I know if I've been accepted or not?

    I signed into kompass IEC and it says this along the top:
    Hello: partyjungle
    Account number: XXXXXXXX
    Status Final decision - Accepted
    World Tracking Number (WTN) DUBLN-IE-14-WHP-XXXXX
    Last log-in: 07/08/2014 12:30:15 PM

    I don't know if that bolded part is new or not. There were no messages or emails.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭goingitalone


    How do I know if I've been accepted or not?

    I signed into kompass IEC and it says this along the top:



    I don't know if that bolded part is new or not. There were no messages or emails.

    have you completed you mycic process?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭SpaceCowb0y


    After messing up and having my CAL expire before i uploaded the last of my docs in the myCIC stage i have now withdrawn my application back in the Kompass website. I have received no email or notification to say this has been done and no information on when/how/if i will get a refund for my visa application?

    Anybody know what the story is here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭goingitalone


    After messing up and having my CAL expire before i uploaded the last of my docs in the myCIC stage i have now withdrawn my application back in the Kompass website. I have received no email or notification to say this has been done and no information on when/how/if i will get a refund for my visa application?

    Anybody know what the story is here?

    It's at there discretioni think won't be fast anyway. Heard some people last year still didn't have it and that was Close to it opening this year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jaymcg91


    Yeah I withdrew mine in March, haven't heard a thing in 5 months! Could be this year, could be next year!


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    have you completed you mycic process?

    Yeah fairly sure I've done everything. I was on the wire in terms of the deadline however.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭SpaceCowb0y


    It's at there discretioni think won't be fast anyway. Heard some people last year still didn't have it and that was Close to it opening this year
    jaymcg91 wrote: »
    Yeah I withdrew mine in March, haven't heard a thing in 5 months! Could be this year, could be next year!

    Ah right... thanks for the reply, thats a load of bollox so isn't it! Cheeky bastards! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Kevwoody


    I've just received two messages in my cic account, first one is requesting additional document ( police cert ) it doesn't give a reason, just says replacement required.
    However, my status is closed, and my final decision is approved, and 5 mins after the first message, I received my POE.
    Do I need to submit another cert, or just print off the POE ?

    Also, the info on the POE is blank, but I read that's normal, and I've to open it with adobe to see all details, which I can't do til I get home later


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 csi_oo1


    Hey has anyone got their POE on this board who lived in another country as a worker & didn't put in the police check for it and wasn't asked for it by cic yet still got the Poe?


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 hungryharry


    Hi,When i was converting my cv to iec template i put wrong date on previous employment and now have 3 year gap in cv.Will this go against me??Also if a get to stage 2 and have to fill employment history will i keep it the same or update it??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭hunter164


    So I've been offered a place and I need to provide the necessary documents and pay by the 6th September. I've searched on the website but I can't find the answer so I'll ask here. If I accept and send in the necessary documents and pay how long can I wait before I actually go over? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 hungryharry


    If you are just paying now you must be just on stage 1,it takes up to 14 days for them to send conditional letter of acceptence for you to enter stage 2 and it can then take 6-8 weeks after you have uploaded all documents required.I know people who have only waited 1-2 weeks and more a lot longer


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Bear83


    My friend has just got his Conditional Acceptance Letter a few days ago but it expires today (6th Sept). However we have began the CIC application process and it says we still have 58 days left to submit it. He previously had a police cert but its now out of date and obviously he wont have another one until next week. Everything else is filled in and uploaded.
    Should he submit the CIC application now with the out of date cert and hope they come back and look for a more recent one or is he ok to wait?
    Its very confusing as the CIC site and Conditional Acceptance Letter are contradicting each other.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Try submitting it today without the police cert, but including a letter of explanation. For whatever reason, people called up from waiting lists are only getting a few days to submit everything, so I think the cic expect that police forms won't be available that quickly and will be understanding. That's my best guess, anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Clazicolleen


    Has anyone been waiting a ridiculous amount of time?! My bf has been waiting over 3 months now and hasn't heard a peep. They're contact system is woeful and I'm getting a little ratty now aswel as its real torture! I'm starting to think the application is lost and theyv left him behind!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Bear83


    Faith wrote: »
    Try submitting it today without the police cert, but including a letter of explanation. For whatever reason, people called up from waiting lists are only getting a few days to submit everything, so I think the cic expect that police forms won't be available that quickly and will be understanding. That's my best guess, anyway.

    We did as you advised and he got an email back today asking for an up to date cert which he now has so problem solved. Thanks for the advice


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Bear83 wrote: »
    We did as you advised and he got an email back today asking for an up to date cert which he now has so problem solved. Thanks for the advice

    Oh good, I'm so glad it worked out!


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 hungryharry


    Has anyone been waiting a ridiculous amount of time?! My bf has been waiting over 3 months now and hasn't heard a peep. They're contact system is woeful and I'm getting a little ratty now aswel as its real torture! I'm starting to think the application is lost and theyv left him behind!

    I only sent off my stuff on Sunday and got my POE letter lastnight,4 days i waited.


  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Fiddlex


    Hi im on stage 2 of the application and im filling in the IMM1295E. where its asks for "Country where applying for" it asks for a date of immigration, is this the date i plan to use my visa and that its only valid for then? Thanks

    2 other questions:

    Do i have to print the family information form as it asks in multiple areas for a signature?

    How do i go about getting a garda police certificate for the clearance part?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Fiddlex wrote: »
    Hi im on stage 2 of the application and im filling in the IMM1295E. where its asks for "Country where applying for" it asks for a date of immigration, is this the date i plan to use my visa and that its only valid for then? Thanks

    2 other questions:

    Do i have to print the family information form as it asks in multiple areas for a signature?

    How do i go about getting a garda police certificate for the clearance part?

    Thanks

    "Country where applying for" I believe is for when your citizenship is of a different country to where you are living. E.g. if you were Irish but applying from France (or somewhere) then you would put France down as current residence and Ireland down as country where applying, I think. As I was living in Ireland at the time of my application, I just ticket the box to say that it was the same as my current residence, and I didn't have to fill those boxes in.

    You don't have to print the form, just type your name into the signature area.

    The police cert question has been covered multiple times in this thread and forum - do a search!


  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Fiddlex


    "Country where applying for" I believe is for when your citizenship is of a different country to where you are living. E.g. if you were Irish but applying from France (or somewhere) then you would put France down as current residence and Ireland down as country where applying, I think. As I was living in Ireland at the time of my application, I just ticket the box to say that it was the same as my current residence, and I didn't have to fill those boxes in.

    You don't have to print the form, just type your name into the signature area.

    The police cert question has been covered multiple times in this thread and forum - do a search!

    Thanks for your help, I have searched for the police cert issue but I wanted to know what the best approach is because my CAL only lasts til the 1st of October but my application is valid for 2 months.. ?

    Also if Im applying for a working holiday without a job waiting do i just leave the job details blank on the form?

    What is the UCI Number they are looking for?

    Sorry for all the questions just want to make sure. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Fiddlex wrote: »
    Thanks for your help, I have searched for the police cert issue but I wanted to know what the best approach is because my CAL only lasts til the 1st of October but my application is valid for 2 months.. ?

    The only way to get it is to go down to your local Garda station with all the required documents (passport, birth cert, CAL etc..) You can fill in the form and then it goes off to the station the Superintendent for where the area you live in based (there's a list online). I got mine back in a week, so maybe ring after a week if yours hasn't arrived.
    Also if Im applying for a working holiday without a job waiting do i just leave the job details blank on the form?

    Yes (again this has been covered already http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89865899).
    What is the UCI Number they are looking for?

    If you have previously had deadings with CIC then you will have a UCI. If this is your first time applying to CIC you won't have a UCI, so can leave it blank. (and yes this has been covered already in this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89642257).

    Seriously (and this isn't a swipe at you) but why have pages and pages of answers only for the same questions to be asked again and again. There is a "Search this thread" function.


  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Fiddlex


    The only way to get it is to go down to your local Garda station with all the required documents (passport, birth cert, CAL etc..) You can fill in the form and then it goes off to the station the Superintendent for where the area you live in based (there's a list online). I got mine back in a week, so maybe ring after a week if yours hasn't arrived.

    I have been told different stories each time, first i was told to write a letter to the superintendent and I did. now i was told to email my details to an email and I did that also. So i should just head down to my district station and hand in everything to them? thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Fiddlex wrote: »
    I have been told different stories each time, first i was told to write a letter to the superintendent and I did. now i was told to email my details to an email and I did that also. So i should just head down to my district station and hand in everything to them? thanks

    That's what I did - there's a form you can fill in. Like I said, my cert came back within a week.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Fiddlex


    That's what I did - there's a form you can fill in. Like I said, my cert came back within a week.

    Sorry one last question, If my CAL expires and I lose my place does that mean I can't apply again this year or next ? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Fiddlex wrote: »
    Sorry one last question, If my CAL expires and I lose my place does that mean I can't apply again this year or next ? Thanks

    You can apply again this year but you'll go back on the waiting list or you can apply again next year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Fiddlex


    You can apply again this year but you'll go back on the waiting list or you can apply again next year.

    Thanks for all the help. I went into the garda station and submitted the form for police cert but the garda said it could be 2 weeks for it. That's 2 days past my cal date, is it possible to submit my application without the police cert and with a letter of explanation? Of course I'll wait til the last day of my cal to do it if I have to. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 hungryharry


    More than likely wont take 2 weeks,i have got 3 of them over the last few years 1 week was the longest i waited but depends where you live and how busy the super is i suppose.I know of someone who sent all their stuff with letter of explanation and forwarded cert a few days later and got accepted.It depends who is accesing it in Canada it seems.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 hungryharry


    Call back into station in 2 or 3 days and tell them you need it badly,if you meet a sound guard they will push it through for you


  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Fiddlex


    More than likely wont take 2 weeks,i have got 3 of them over the last few years 1 week was the longest i waited but depends where you live and how busy the super is i suppose.I know of someone who sent all their stuff with letter of explanation and forwarded cert a few days later and got accepted.It depends who is accesing it in Canada it seems.

    Thanks for that, I'll try giving them a ring early next week. I guess if it doesnt come by then, I'll take the chance of submitting and see if they give me extra time.

    BTW it was the Ballymun Garda station.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9 bettio


    Hi,
    I set up my Kompass account the first week in september, received my CAL but it says it expires on the 23rd, that is 2 weeks from the date it was issued, is that normal?
    i have been trying to get everything ready to submit for that date, but its impossible. I still have no police check and I lived in New York for a year in the past 5 years, so I need to get police clearance from there and read in a previous post that can take 7-8 weeks, nevermind the week for the irish police clearance. Also need to get the common law union form signed by a notary and passport photos which im going to tryin the online sites mentioned on this.
    can I submit the 3 forms I have filled in so far with the CAL letter before it expires and hope they just ask me to send on the others without cancelling me? the CIC account tells me I have 50 days left?? how are the deadlines so different?
    also to confirm, for the iec working holiday, we do not need to fill int the app for temp resident visa?
    Sorry, i have been researching this info for the past two weeks and cant seem to find straight answers?? very stressed!!
    any help will be appreciated!
    thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 bettio


    Hi sorry just wondering what kinda of proof if any it need to send with my application as I have a common law partner, he is making his own application but we still hav to say we r common law, do I send anything with the deceleration or only if they ask?? And do I get the deceleration signed by a notary, then take a picture of it and send it? My cal expires tomorrow and I hav no police very from Ireland or America! Should I send as much as I can in today and just attach a letter of explanation to say I will send the rest when I get them??
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    bettio wrote: »
    Hi sorry just wondering what kinda of proof if any it need to send with my application as I have a common law partner, he is making his own application but we still hav to say we r common law, do I send anything with the deceleration or only if they ask?? And do I get the deceleration signed by a notary, then take a picture of it and send it? My cal expires tomorrow and I hav no police very from Ireland or America! Should I send as much as I can in today and just attach a letter of explanation to say I will send the rest when I get them??
    Thanks

    Why do you need to send proof that you are common law? I didn't have to send any proof that I was married...


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 bettio


    On the statutory declaration, it says what documentary evidence do you have that would indicate that you are common law partners? Do I just say what I could provide if asked? I have photos, plane tickets, shared phone bill, mail addressed to same address, letters, postcards, car insurance in both names.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    bettio wrote: »
    On the statutory declaration, it says what documentary evidence do you have that would indicate that you are common law partners? Do I just say what I could provide if asked? I have photos, plane tickets, shared phone bill, mail addressed to same address, letters, postcards, car insurance in both names.

    What statutory declaration?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9 bettio


    Form IMM5409E the Statutory Decleration of Common-Law Union? Do I not have to fill that in for the IEC Working Holiday?? I thought I did if I am in a common law relationship? it has to be signed by a commissioner of Oaths also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    bettio wrote: »
    Form IMM5409E the Statutory Decleration of Common-Law Union? Do I not have to fill that in for the IEC Working Holiday?? I thought I did if I am in a common law relationship? it has to be signed by a commissioner of Oaths also?

    Did you do the Come to Canada checklist? If so that lists what documents you need to submit for the IEC. As IEC does not grant implied status to spouse/common-law partners, I would be surprised if you need to fill in that declaration. I might be wrong though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 bettio


    App for work permit
    CAL
    CV
    Passport
    Digital Photo
    Police Cert
    Family information

    When I went to download the forms and checklist there were some that were 'if applical' so I presumed I would have to fill it in? Did others fill in this form??


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 bettio


    Also for this question what should my answer be? I f we are both applying for our separate visas? Will you be coming to Canada with a spouse or common-law partner who is, or will be, working in Canada as a temporary worker or who is, or will be, a full-time student at a university, community college, CEGEP or other authorized educational institution?
    Sorry, I have been up all night trying to get this right as my deadline is tomorrow so Im really stressed out with it! thank you so much for replying!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    bettio wrote: »
    Also for this question what should my answer be? I f we are both applying for our separate visas? Will you be coming to Canada with a spouse or common-law partner who is, or will be, working in Canada as a temporary worker or who is, or will be, a full-time student at a university, community college, CEGEP or other authorized educational institution?
    Sorry, I have been up all night trying to get this right as my deadline is tomorrow so Im really stressed out with it! thank you so much for replying!!

    I put in No for that question (and i think other people did). I think answering yes there implies that it is a joint application and one will be relying on the other for status. As I said, IEC does not allow implied status.

    From reading up it looks like IMM5409E is only required when one partner is trying to get implied status so I don't see why it would be required. Maybe someone who has stated common-law could be able to answer better. But like I said neither myself or my wife were asked for proof of marriage and we both got POE.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    I think my fiancé and I selected common law, as opposed to single, but we didn't fill in any extra forms, certainly not one that needed signing by a commissioner of oaths! I think in the letter of explanation, we both just mentione that were engaged but applying separately so it had no bearing on our application.

    And yes, just upload everything you can today, and in te letter of explanation, explain you couldn't get everything before the expiry date of the CAL, which was shorter than standard. You'll be fine.

    I've already answered variations of this questions several times of the forum; I'm very surprised you didn't read through the threads and see that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 bettio


    Thank you so much for yer help! Im nearly ready to go, just 1 last question:
    i can find the question loads but not really the answer.. I have Schedule 1 form in my optional section and says 'not provided' in the details box, just want to confirm that I do Not have to fill in this from and send it with my application?? its only if I was applying for residency so doesnt apply to me?
    I uploaded two visa pictures from that website idphotoforu in a pdf, have no police check so uploaded 1 from 2009 and explained in my extra letter.
    Im so scared...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 mnidhuibhir


    Hi there

    Just wondering if someone could clarify something for me. I remember when I filled out the Come to Canada questionnaire I specified the province I planned on travelling to. My plans have now changed and I am considering other provinces. I'm just wondering does my choice in the Come to Canada questionnaire limit me to that province seeing as my POE doesn't seem to specify a province?

    Thanks a mil :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 mnidhuibhir


    Hi there

    Just wondering if someone could clarify something for me. I remember when I filled out the Come to Canada questionnaire I specified the province I planned on travelling to. My plans have now changed and I am considering other provinces. I'm just wondering does my choice in the Come to Canada questionnaire limit me to that province seeing as my POE doesn't seem to specify a province? I'd say there is a pretty obvious answer but I can't be bothered contacting someone official :)

    Thanks a mil :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Hi there

    Just wondering if someone could clarify something for me. I remember when I filled out the Come to Canada questionnaire I specified the province I planned on travelling to. My plans have now changed and I am considering other provinces. I'm just wondering does my choice in the Come to Canada questionnaire limit me to that province seeing as my POE doesn't seem to specify a province? I'd say there is a pretty obvious answer but I can't be bothered contacting someone official :)

    Thanks a mil :)

    You are free to live and work in any province.


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