And the winner of dreamer of the year is...

wotzgoingon · 08-05-2017 10:56pm

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-2-0-litre-petrol/15122927

Does being a 5 door make it more valuable ?

That quite expensive for a ST170. I have been eyeing them up for a while and a a dealer or two has another one up for roughly the same price but tbh nobody will pay that much for one which is why they have them up for sale for so long.

Sexual Chocolate · 08-05-2017 11:01pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

but tbh nobody will pay that much for one which is why they have them up for sale for so long.

Not when some MK2s arent far off the price these days. All the other ones on DD are nearly half the price and less.

wotzgoingon · 08-05-2017 11:31pm

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Not when some MK2s arent far off the price these days. All the other ones on DD are nearly half the price and less.

And then also the Mk2 is a so much better car.(apart from tax)

Quazzie · 08-05-2017 11:51pm

I know of a ST170 that was probably in better condition that struggled to make a grand. No one wants them.

JohnBoy26 · 14-05-2017 3:33pm

Not a massive dreamer but a civic that has no nct with the last two years and isn't a great example(imo) isn't worth near a grand. I bought a much cleaner example than this for the same money two years ago.

It also doesn't seem to have a full service history as has been made out, it just looks to be written into the book by someone with only one stamp visable in the photo, im not saying what's written in the book is false but it's not really a full service history that can be verified and is more akin to a tippex service history.

Also the pic of the underneath where the seller says there is no rust is a pic of the floorpan which almost never rusts on these civics anyway. It's the rear underbody that rusts the most on these and up at the front.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-ej9-irish-car-rust-free/15500296
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colm_mcm · 14-05-2017 3:45pm

If it was €5k it would be a dreamer.

JohnBoy26 · 14-05-2017 4:07pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

If it was €5k it would be a dreamer.

It's only worth about €400 in its current state

Toyotafanboi · 14-05-2017 4:14pm

I think in it's current state it's value is very close to €0.

The same can be said for most teenage cars with no tax or test. People just don't want them anymore. It's not like ten years ago when a 10-12 year old Toyota/ Honda was still worth 1500-2000 regardless of condition as people acknowledged that they still had the makings of a good car.

I'd say if you advertised that car for €100 enquiries from young lads With no money would skyrocket but you'd still struggle to find someone to actually buy it. With the advancements in car technology coupled with the "incentives" to get older cars off the road, what good is that Civic, or the many others like it to anyone?

Duke O Smiley · 14-05-2017 4:42pm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

It's only worth about €400 in its current state

Worth about that with a new NCT in my opinion. Echoing TFB, nobody wants em. Like, nobody at all

JohnBoy26 · 14-05-2017 5:45pm

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I think in it's current state it's value is very close to €0.

The same can be said for most teenage cars with no tax or test. People just don't want them anymore. It's not like ten years ago when a 10-12 year old Toyota/ Honda was still worth 1500-2000 regardless of condition as people acknowledged that they still had the makings of a good car.

I'd say if you advertised that car for €100 enquiries from young lads With no money would skyrocket but you'd still struggle to find someone to actually buy it. With the advancements in car technology coupled with the "incentives" to get older cars off the road, what good is that Civic, or the many others like it to anyone?

Good well minded examples of those civics still sell but there is a limited market for them. Getting €600-€700 euro for a good one of those is not impossible and I've seen two very low mileage examples go for over 1k recently.

flatty · 14-05-2017 8:01pm

lawred2 wrote: »

boombang wrote: »

10k for a 1990 500sl that needs a re-spray with a tatty interior without leather. My sister's boyfriend got a clean 500SL for about 5k sterling.

5k sterling? Really?

I've been offered 14k sterling for mine. 1994 35k miles. Good nick (almost pristine, two or three tiny bodywork scratches).

wotzgoingon · 14-05-2017 8:24pm

flatty wrote: »

I've been offered 14k sterling for mine. 1994 35k miles. Good nick (almost pristine, two or three tiny bodywork scratches).

And you never bothered selling it? If someone offered me that much I would take the arm off him.

Out of curiosity is it a performance model(VTEC)? or a standard 1.3 or 1.6?

colm_mcm · 14-05-2017 9:16pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

And you never bothered selling it? If someone offered me that much I would take the arm off him.

Out of curiosity is it a performance model(VTEC)? or a standard 1.3 or 1.6?

Think he's talking about a 500SL

wotzgoingon · 14-05-2017 9:19pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Think he's talking about a 500SL

Oh right, that makes more sense.

You are right just looked back. I read the civic post and assumed he was replying to that.

JohnBoy26 · 15-05-2017 7:38pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla/15510508
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Cheensbo · 15-05-2017 7:40pm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

corolla]

She's the super rare XLI plus though, complete with rev counter :pac:

colm_mcm · 15-05-2017 8:11pm

I sold a 96 one with 30k on it 11 years ago for that money. Still going strong, saw it driving around yesterday.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 15-05-2017 8:25pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

I sold a 96 one with 30k on it 11 years ago for that money. Still going strong, saw it driving around yesterday.

I love when I see an old car of mine still going around. Spotted my old 99' Mazda 323 glx going around the other day, was chatting to the guy who owned it for the last few years and he said the only thing he had to do in 4 years was get a new coil pack and replace the tyres for the NCT! If only I was that lucky with the yokes I replaced it with

road_high · 15-05-2017 9:29pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I love when I see an old car of mine still going around. Spotted my old 99' Mazda 323 glx going around the other day, was chatting to the guy who owned it for the last few years and he said the only thing he had to do in 4 years was get a new coil pack and replace the tyres for the NCT! If only I was that lucky with the yokes I replaced it with

90s Japanese cars were the pinnacle of reliability really...was a shame things went downwards after then.

twin_beacon · 15-05-2017 10:04pm

Those corollas were great cars, I had a 94 1.3 hatch back, when I sold it there was 280k on the clock.

JohnBoy26 · 15-05-2017 11:25pm

road_high wrote: »

90s Japanese cars were the pinnacle of reliability really...was a shame things went downwards after then.

They better japanese brands are still among the most reliable cars though, I mean the corolla of today and cars like the civic etc are still very reliable cars.

The corolla uses a well proven drivetrain and is a simple car mechanically by todays standards but may not have the sheer quality of it's 90's predecessor even though still very good.

JohnBoy26 · 15-05-2017 11:25pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I love when I see an old car of mine still going around. Spotted my old 99' Mazda 323 glx going around the other day, was chatting to the guy who owned it for the last few years and he said the only thing he had to do in 4 years was get a new coil pack and replace the tyres for the NCT! If only I was that lucky with the yokes I replaced it with

It's a wonder he didn't have to do any welding

Truckermal · 18-05-2017 7:18pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-altezza/15520348

Seriously?

Taylor365 · 18-05-2017 7:47pm

Truckermal wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-altezza/15520348

Seriously?

"Quick, its washed! Take a picture before i destroy it again!"

Toyotafanboi · 18-05-2017 7:56pm

Prices seems to be rising on those to be fair.

selectamatic · 18-05-2017 8:18pm

Truckermal wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-altezza/15520348

Seriously?

5k for an altezza in May is far from dreamer territory. It's a steep asking price alright but now is the time of year to ask it tbf.

There's a ladeen on Facebook asking €4350 for an is200 now that's more like it for a dreamer

wyliecoyote1 · 19-05-2017 8:37am

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-anniversary-16v/15541316

8000 for a mk3 anniversary gti.

bear1 · 19-05-2017 8:55am

Hahaha

Wossack · 19-05-2017 9:46am

'This golf is full restored'

why no after pics then?

millington · 19-05-2017 9:47am

Truckermal wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-altezza/15520348

Seriously?

Not far off the money these days. Very few for sale sub 5k recently.

Truckermal · 19-05-2017 12:35pm

millington wrote: »

Not far off the money these days. Very few for sale sub 5k recently.

I hope their big brother will appreciate in value if that's the case!

Cheensbo · 19-05-2017 12:41pm

Truckermal wrote: »

I hope their big brother will appreciate in value if that's the case!

(Un)fortunately big brother's no good for diffing..

King of the cone/Donegal rally is on soon - lads will scramble to get into a 'cool' manual, diffable rwd in time for it.

I see a 99 altezza on facebook for €7.5k this morning... madness but that's the market!

Top Dog · 19-05-2017 3:37pm

wyliecoyote1 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-golf-anniversary-16v/15541316

8000 for a mk3 anniversary gti.

Wheels look like they could do with a refurb.

And its on UK plates so vrt to be paid too?

Think it'll be spending another few years in the shed!

Tropheus · 19-05-2017 3:50pm

Top Dog wrote: »

Wheels look like they could do with a refurb.

And its on UK plates so vrt to be paid too?

Think it'll be spending another few years in the shed!

New front wing - so it's been crashed? Has a sniff of Category D off it.

Gravelly · 19-05-2017 3:52pm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Not a massive dreamer but a civic that has no nct with the last two years and isn't a great example(imo) isn't worth near a grand. I bought a much cleaner example than this for the same money two years ago.

It also doesn't seem to have a full service history as has been made out, it just looks to be written into the book by someone with only one stamp visable in the photo, im not saying what's written in the book is false but it's not really a full service history that can be verified and is more akin to a tippex service history.

Also the pic of the underneath where the seller says there is no rust is a pic of the floorpan which almost never rusts on these civics anyway. It's the rear underbody that rusts the most on these and up at the front.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-ej9-irish-car-rust-free/15500296

"No test pilots" - because nothing would bring out your inner Schumacher like a 17 year old 1.4 litre granny car.

colm_mcm · 19-05-2017 5:18pm

I would imagine you'd get a lot of young lads who haven't even priced insurance yet.

wotzgoingon · 23-05-2017 11:38pm

This in my eye is a dreamer....

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/eg9-eg8-b18c/15579881

ShadowHearth · 24-05-2017 12:39am

wotzgoingon wrote: »

This in my eye is a dreamer....

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/eg9-eg8-b18c/15579881

I know my english is not great, but it makes even me cringe reading it.
As for dreamer... I dont know, is he? Its rare and high spec. I just dont know if there is market for such car anymore. No more third party piss take insurance anymore and no one who is pass 20 would ever drive something like that.
I am pretty sure its uninsurable.

wotzgoingon · 24-05-2017 12:43am

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I know my english is not great, but it makes even me cringe reading it.
As for dreamer... I dont know, is he? Its rare and high spec. I just dont know if there is market for such car anymore. No more third party piss take insurance anymore and no one who is pass 20 would ever drive something like that.
I am pretty sure its uninsurable.

I still think it is expensive.

bear1 · 24-05-2017 6:29am

He must have been drunk when writing that ad.

georgefalls · 24-05-2017 7:29am

Goes on about the interior, and not one picture of it

mullingar · 24-05-2017 8:06am

And it has a 1.8 engine, taxed as 1.6, probably insured as 1.6

millington · 24-05-2017 8:50am

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I know my english is not great, but it makes even me cringe reading it.
As for dreamer... I dont know, is he? Its rare and high spec. I just dont know if there is market for such car anymore. No more third party piss take insurance anymore and no one who is pass 20 would ever drive something like that.
I am pretty sure its uninsurable.

I'm over 20 and I would. I know plenty more that would too.

It's a pity it's not an EG9 shell. It's expensive for an EG8 conversion though.

Gravelly · 24-05-2017 9:01am

Can't understand the Irish boy racer obsession with the bloody Honda Civic. In most other countries they are seen as the kind of car your grandparents would drive. Their performance, handling, and looks are distinctly ordinary, so why are they held up in this same regard? At least something like an Impreza or Evo has performance credentials and a rallying heritage. I'd understand if it was Type Rs they were driving, but most of them are driving your basic 1.4 shopping box.
They'd be better off buying an 80's MR2 or 200nx for the same money, getting classic tax and insurance, and having something that looks good and at least gives the impression of going fast.

Quazzie · 24-05-2017 9:07am

Gravelly wrote: »

Can't understand the Irish boy racer obsession with the bloody Honda Civic. In most other countries they are seen as the kind of car your grandparents would drive. Their performance, handling, and looks are distinctly ordinary, so why are they held up in this same regard? At least something like an Impreza or Evo has performance credentials and a rallying heritage. I'd understand if it was Type Rs they were driving, but most of them are driving your basic 1.4 shopping box.
They'd be better off buying an 80's MR2 or 200nx for the same money, getting classic tax and insurance, and having something that looks good and at least gives the impression of going fast.

A B18 civic can be made into an incredibly fast car, that has pretty good handling. I'm far from a Honda fan, but I can certainly appreciate a B18 engine, and the fact that most of what you said is very wrong.

Gravelly · 24-05-2017 9:11am

Quazzie wrote: »

A B18 civic can be made into an incredibly fast car, that has pretty good handling. I'm far from a Honda fan, but I can certainly appreciate a B18 engine, and the fact that most of what you said is very wrong.

Not sure what you feel I said that was so wrong - pretty much anything can be made into a fast car, the question I'm asking is why would you bother, when there are cars out there that are already fast and with good handling.

Cheensbo · 24-05-2017 9:47am

Whats a 200nx and what's so great about it?

Go for a spin in a b18c powered civic and come back and tell us it's slow.

Also, civics are hugely popular worldwide, you might wanna fact check your crusade...

Gravelly · 24-05-2017 9:50am

Cheensbo wrote: »

Whats a 200nx and what's so great about it?

Go for a spin in a b18c powered civic and come back and tell us it's slow.

Also, civics are hugely popular worldwide, you might wanna fact check your crusade...

:rolleyes: Crusade? Expressing an opinion that a car isn't particularly fast is a crusade now?

Cheensbo · 24-05-2017 9:55am

Gravelly wrote: »

:rolleyes: Crusade? Expressing an opinion that a car isn't particularly fast is a crusade now?

Well i'm sorry then, you are entitled to have an opinion that they're not fast but doesn't change the fact that its wrong i guess.

Couldnt reply to any other part of my post no?

Go on, whats a 200nx?

Gravelly · 24-05-2017 10:08am

Cheensbo wrote: »

Well i'm sorry then, you are entitled to have an opinion that they're not fast but doesn't change the fact that its wrong i guess.

Opinions are like @rseholes, everyone has one - don't get to thinking that just because you have one it's correct!

Cheensbo wrote: »

Couldnt reply to any other part of my post no?

Go on, whats a 200nx?

A typo for a 200sx, as I'm sure you know :rolleyes:

And the winner of dreamer of the year is...

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