Poetry.... or not??

FWIW I actually disagree with alfa beta about rhyming structures or schemes, and there is some fantastic contemporary/recent poetry out there that uses 'traditional' poetic forms. Edwin Morgan is one that springs to mind, (his glasgow sonnet no. 1 uses one of my most favourite descriptive phrases ever 'hackles on puddles' but enough about that)

The one thing I would say is that if you are going to go with a strict rhyme scheme then looking a little more at metre too; is it a sonnet etc. It sounds somewhat boring but there actually is a real discipline that you learn by working to these traditional forms and it can help your 'other' poetry.

You definitely have a talent though and yes, it's definitely poetry.

Oh absolutely, sonnets are incredibly difficult and I didn't mean to make it sound like 'oh scrap this and write a sonnet'.

I just think that an understanding of different metric structures improves all of your writing in general - so writing a 'bad' sonnet can help you write 'good' free verse, if that makes sense? I remember working on one poem in iambic pentameter for weeks. It was never a particularly good poem but the discipline of trying to find just the right words with just the right metric structure helped me enormously in my other writing.

crazyhorsecowle wrote: »

I can't seem to find much poetry on here, any advice for pages to look at?

This thread is old crazyhorse, but I absolutely love this guys style - can't think of much else on boards that's really blown me away though

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055359309

Anyway, we're going off topic a bit so best let this thread get back on track or the OP's finger will be hovering over the 'unfollow' button in mild annoyance!

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The Four Farrellys............
In a small hotel in London I was sitting down to dine.
When the waiter brought the register and asked me if I'd sign.
And as I signed I saw a name that set my heart astir —
A certain "Francis Farrelly" had signed the register;
I knew a lot of Farrellys and out of all the crew
I kept on "sort of wonderin'" which Farrelly were you.
And when I'd finished dinner I sat back in my chair,
Going round my native land to find, what Farelly you were.
SOUTH
Were you the keen-eyed Kerryman I met below Kenmare,
Who told me that when Ireland fought "the odds were never fair?"
If Cromwell had met Sarsfield, or Owen Roe O'Neill,
It's not to Misther Gladstone we'd be lookin' for repeal.
Would have Ireland for the Irish, not a Saxon to be seen,
And only Gaelic spoken in that House in College Green.
Told me landlords wor the Divil! their agints ten times worst,
And iv'ry sort of government for Ireland was a curse!
Oh! if you're that Francis Farrelly, your dreams have not come true,
Still, Slainthe! Slainthe! Fransheen! for I like a man like you!
NORTH
Or were you the Francis Farrelly that often used to say
He'd like to blow them Papishes from Derry walls away?
The boy who used to bother me that Orange Lodge to join,
And thought that history started with the Battle o' the Boyne —
I was not all with ye, Francis, the Pope is not ma friend,
But still I hope, poor man, he'll die without that bloody end. -
And when yer quit for care yerself, and get to Kingdom Come,
It's not use teachin' you the harp — you'll play the Orange drum!
Och! man, ye wor a fighter, of that I had no doubt.
For I see ye in Belfast one night when the Antrim Road was out!
And many a time that evenin' I thought that ye wor dead,
The way them Papish pavin' stones was hoppin' off yer head.
Oh! if you're the Francis Farrelly who came from North Tyrone -
Here's lookin' to ye, Francis, but do leave the Pope alone!
EAST
Or were you the Francis Farrelly that in my college days
For strollin' on the Kingstown Pier had such a curious craze?
D'y mind them lovely sisters — the blonde and the brunette?
I know I've not forgotten, and I don't think you forget!
That picnic at the Dargle — and the others at the Scalp —
How my heart was palpitatin' — hers wasn't — not a palp!
Someone said ye married money — any maybe ye were wise,
But the gold you loved was in her hair, and the d'monds in her eyes!
So I like to think ye married her and that you're with her yet,
'Twas some "meleesha" officer that married the brunette;
But the blonde one always loved ye, and I knew you loved her too,
So me blessin's on ye, Francis, and the blue sky over you!
WEST
Or were you the Francis Farrelly I met so long ago,
In the bog below Belmullet, in the County of Mayo?
That long-legged, freckled Francis with the deep-set, wistful eyes,
That seemed to take their colour from those ever-changing skies,
That put his flute together as I sketched the distant scene,
And played me "Planxy Kelly" and the "Wakes of Inniskeen."
That told me in the Autumn he'd be Bailin' to the West
To try and make his fortune and send money to the rest.
And would I draw a picture of the place where he was born,
And he'd hang it up, and look at it, and not feel so forlorn;
And when I had it finished, you got up from where you sat,
And you said, "Well, you're the Divil, and I can't say more than that."
Oh', if you're that Francis Farrelly, your fortune may be small,
But I'm thinking — thinking — Francis, that I love you best of all;
And I never can forget you — though it's years and years ago -
In the bog below BeImullet, in the County of Mayo.
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